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Post#1 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:17 am

911 myth sold to us by the zio-media is CRUMBLING.

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December 18, 2010 posted by Gordon Duff · 1,061 Comments

"thought it was a bomb...walked out through the hole..burning wreckage..no plane parts...threatened to keep silent"

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

Confirmed sources in the Nigerian government tell us, in order to keep former Vice President Cheney out of prison for crimes involving Nigeria, $500,000,000 in bribes have been promised, negotiated by former President George H.W. Bush. Now, only a day later, Cheney faces possible charges, so many charges they can only be imagined, for planning the Pentagon attack on 9/11.

TV host, Jesse Ventura, former Navy Seal, former Governor of Minnesota, on a one hour documentary on prime-time American television, makes an open and shut criminal case tying Cheney, Rumsfeld and officials throughout the US government with complicity in the planning, execution and subsequent cover-up of the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon.

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According to experts on 9/11, engineers, pilots, intelligence officers and members of our military, Jesse Ventura “hit the nail on the head.” Ventura, using evidence developed over 9 years by hundreds of individuals, outlines the utter impossibility of the government’s cover story on 9/11 and systematically debunks it using testimony and scientific evidence.

Ventura cites, in an interview with a 9/11 commissioner, a possible motive for the Pentagon attack being included with the attacks on the World Trade Center. $2,300,000,000,000, yes 2.3 trillion US dollars had disappeared, cited only the day before in a televised statement by Secretary Rumsfeld, money “gone missing” from the Pentagon’s accounting. The area of the Pentagon hit by a missile or destroyed by explosives or both contained all records of this missing money.


Ventura proves, beyond any doubt that no airplane every hit the Pentagon. As the video shows, not even a highly trained airline pilot was capable of the maneuvers claimed. Long before, it had been proven that the 757 was incapable of the task, either the maneuvers or the speed and trajectory. The plane would have come apart, there is no disagreement with this and hasn’t been for some time, yet nothing had been done. Why?

It is also clearly shown that there is absolutely no evidence of any kind showing a plane hit the Pentagon, no wreckage, no bodies, no luggage. Items claimed to have been taken to Dover Air Force Base, bodies, plane parts, were never at the Pentagon as both video and testimony prove.

There is also proof that the government threatened witnesses, telling them to support the “aircraft scenario.”


The basis for the conspiracy theory regarding Muslim hijackers with box cutters was based on supposed phone calls made by Barbara Olson, wife of Bush Solicitor General. Solicitor General Olson claimed he talked to his wife on a cell phone, spoke with her at length, while she described the hijackings as now dramatized by Hollywood. When it was proven that a cell phone is incapable of making such calls, Olson claimed it was a “seat back phone.” When it was proven that there were no seat back phones on American Airlines 757 aircraft, nothing further was asked.

Then investigations shows he received one call, lasting “0″ seconds. Ventura questions as to whether Olson was duped or complicit? Should he be arrested too? Was his wife, Barbara, ever really on the plane?

Then Ventura looks into the flight itself. Not only was the flight recorder “dead” but during the flight itself, the transponder was turned off. Even more suspicious, the plane disappeared from radar for 28 minutes.

There is no discussion of this 28 minutes, but speculation, perhaps no longer speculation, has long been that the flight landed. As to what happened then, we cannot guess, or can we. One of my friends, a former Pentagon official, had a friend on that aircraft. Not long ago, he asked me.

“Gordon, what do you think happened to him, do you think he was executed? Bullet in the brain as they stepped off the plane or something even worse?”

Ventura didn’t go there. None of us want to. It requires visualizing a scene out of Auschwitz.

Can Americans be so brutal, so devious, so traitorous? It isn’t just Jesse Ventura that is willing to risk his life to bring it out, Fox News journalist Geraldo Rivera, several weeks ago, debunked the Building 7 collapse at the World Trade Center as “controlled demolition.”

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Commission video’s redacted to remove testimony by the Secretary of Transportation, transcripts altered, witnesses blocked, evidence, tons of evidence of government conspiracy withheld, this is the case against the government. Threats, intimidation, going on for years, this is proven. Were there more than threats, murders, “heart attacks” or threats against families? Ventura proves the Pentagon was a government conspiracy, he “names names.” Geraldo makes any other explanation for Building 7 other than “controlled demolition” pure insanity.


It isn’t as though the evidence presented by Governor Ventura and Geraldo Rivera or even the other stories, Judge Napolitano’s revelations of knowledge of the attacks as early as 1999, was new. All has been know, all highly credible and all systematically ignored, attacked by the press, suppressed by courts, officials at every level.

9/11 and the recent revelations aren’t proof of a conspiracy by 2 men, or Israel. It is proof that there never was an Al Qaeda and that the deaths, two wars, the 9/11 deaths and the carnage across the world wrought by the United States was part of a criminal conspiracy, one that could only be perpetrated by a dictatorship under the guise of representative democracy.

Everything we have seen, and millions around the world have watched, nobody can ignore it anymore, it all says that what has happened is something no American would allow, not if this still were America. Jesse Ventura proved something startling to most, suspected by some. He proved that, at some point in our past, 10 years, more, we don’t know, our government was overthrown.


The strongest and most vocal opponent of a new 9/11 investigation is Julian Assange of Wikleaks. If any individual outside the US government were to be named as most complicit in a 9/11 cover-up, it would be Julian Assange.

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Everything since then, certainly 9/11 and now, the news about Iran and, especially Wikileaks, all subterfuge. When former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinsky cited Wikileaks on a PBS interview, televised nationally, that Wikileaks was the word of an intelligence agency, Israel never reported it or responded. Instead, they attributed Brzezinski’s quote to me:

“Speaking to Haaretz, Duff added that ‘it sticks out like a sore thumb that WikiLeaks is obviously concocted by an intelligence agency.’”

This is what Brzezinski told Judy Woodruff of PBS:

ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI: But I think the most serious issues are not those which are getting the headlines right now. Who cares if Berlusconi is described as a clown. Most Italians agree with that. Who cares if Putin is described as an alpha dog? He probably is flattered by it.

The real issue is, who is feeding Wikipedia on this issue — Wiki — Wiki — WikiLeaks on this issue? They’re getting a lot of information which seems trivial, inconsequential, but some of it seems surprisingly pointed. …The very pointed references to Arab leaders could have as their objective undermining their political credibility at home, because this kind of public identification of their hostility towards Iran could actually play against them at home.

It’s, rather, a question of whether WikiLeaks are being manipulated by interested parties that want to either complicate our relationship with other governments or want to undermine some governments, because some of these items that are being emphasized and have surfaced are very pointed.

And I wonder whether, in fact, there aren’t some operations internationally, intelligence services, that are feeding stuff to WikiLeaks, because it is a unique opportunity to embarrass us, to embarrass our position, but also to undermine our relations with particular governments.


Barak Obama ran for president on a platform based on justice, ending the wars and bringing accountability to government after 8 years of scandals, deceit and what can only be called “hooliganism and piracy.” Instead, he has done nothing, the wars continue, drugs are flowing from Afghanistan even faster than before, 9/11 evidence, now overwhelming and impossible to ignore is still ignored.

Americans looking for reform wonder if Bush left at all. Those complicit are, though few admit it, disturbed by seeing America led by an African American. The visible public face on the very well financed attacks on President Obama are all very much based on race hatred. This has long been the most effective tool for keeping Americans divided and compliant. How else could a major political movement be successful supporting the least popular and least successful policies in American history?

Who would want a return to policies enacted by the least successful president in American history, George W. Bush, who left office with an approval record listed at 22%. Many would find a number lower, even half, more credible. President Clinton, after surviving impeachment for lying about sexual misconduct left office with 68% approval. Thus, we connect the dots and wake up one morning, informed, enraged and utterly powerless.

Even through the assaults on President Obama, many financed by the Koch brothers, tied to ultra-nationalists in Israel, whether there was a real change of government is not clear. As Jesse Ventura pointed out, while Vice President Dick Cheney was getting reports of a plane approaching the Pentagon, seemingly even orchestrating the attack himself, President Bush was in Florida reading to school children. Two years of Obama have been similar, too similar.

What can we assume from this? Is, in fact, the President of the United States no longer Commander in Chief? Did our government hand itself over to “shadow” rule with Bush or did it happen earlier, after President Reagan’s dementia made him unable to manage the cabal that surrounded him? How long have we been operating under no Constitution at all?

The headline on today’s New York Times:


The headline on today’s Washington Post:


What is “their” message? Certainly not “never again.” In fact we know that “again” is just around the corner, an Iran war with or without a new 9/11, planned and executed by the same folks, older, not wiser and certainly more pathologically insane and murderous.

..and we continue to allow it.


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pauley13 says:
December 26, 2010 at 8:23 pm

I find Assange’s dismissal of 9/11 as troubling as most thinking people, also within these pages. But, unlike some of you posting here, including the author of the excellent “Sex Lies…” video above, I entertain two distinct possibilities:

1) That Assange may indeed be a “tool” in the CIA/Mosssad/Evil Forces hands – or
2) That may be simply be ignorant of the facts, hasn’t studied them due to lack of time and other pressures and allows his knee-jerk reaction to take over.

I lean towards (2). As most of you recall, only very very few among us “immediately” thought there was something wrong with the story. Even the TOP 9/11 activits today all came to their senses long after the events, most agreeing with the official story and dismissing “conspiracy theorists” with equal disdain as Assange now does. Many people I know, myself included, dismissed the 9/11 conspiracy as nonsense for too many years – based NOT on study, but on some kind of idealistic opinion utterly unfounded – and backed only by unanalyzed assumptions.

Once I started paying attention, however, the blinkers fell off and I felt ashamed that I was so stupid not to have seen the obvious. Others, most of you included, have most probably gone through the exact same process. Don’t cast stones if you live in a glass house, then, eh?

Could this too be a case with Assange?

I hope so. I’ve come to view him as a positive character. An extremely positive one, actually. His statement about 9/11 has dampened that assessment somewhat, reminding me to always be cautious and never take anything at face value, but because I can easily relate to his apparent ignorance – and arrogance – on this issue, I’m reluctant to throw stones just yet. The balance of the facts as I know them so far, is greatly in Assange’s favor, his one blinkeredness on the 9/11 issue notwithstanding.
Will Jones says:
December 26, 2010 at 9:26 pm

Assange’s volunteering his easily proven false view on NINE YEAR OLD 9/11 speaks to his lack of righteousness, intelligence, and grace (like RC-asset Bugliosi on JFK’s assassination). His “hacker” status, experience, and resources, with his manifestly “conformed” perspective – fascist plutocracy’s – strongly suggests he is nothing but a tool/asset or, at “best,” a “useful idiot.”
Dan Hanley says:
December 27, 2010 at 12:26 pm

Ardvark says:
December 27, 2010 at 11:23 am

“How long have we been operating under no Constitution at all?”

Obama is touted as a Constitutional Lawyer. Do you think he’s cognizant of this?

Which one do you believe they have been operating under?

Dan Hanley says:
December 27, 2010 at 12:28 pm

Read these pages: http://www.airline-whistleblowers.org/FLASH__.html
GodSend says:
December 27, 2010 at 1:22 pm

Have you seen the Space Rabbit? (look for the Black Hole). He’s an expert on Zionist Slimeballs and the ALIEN RACE, among other noteworthy things! :o

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3 ... 1056929237
OS says:
December 28, 2010 at 8:14 pm

All I can say,

Is the last administration must have did plenty of damage to you. But then, that was their sole purpose, wasn’t it? Making money….
GodSend says:
December 29, 2010 at 1:09 am

Are you related to Casey Stengel? :o
GodSend says:
December 29, 2010 at 1:12 am

You’re an engineer, right? How about posting an explanatory diagram with supporting equations? ;)
GodSend says:
December 29, 2010 at 1:13 am

Remember, God is a Mathematician! :)
OS says:
December 29, 2010 at 4:33 am

With some video, you would be amazed the calculations and data obtained.
GodSend says:
December 29, 2010 at 11:58 am

After you die and enter the “Other Dimension”, you will be shown a video of the highlights (good and bad) of your earthly life – mostly about your interaction with other people. How much data is on that video, do you suppose? EVERYTHING you ever did, said or thought has been recorded (in HD)!

What, do you suppose, God will do with all that data about you?


He will do some quick calculations and give you a grade – PASS! or FAIL!

PS You will NOT be allowed to do your own analysis and calculations of the video of your life! :(

Good Luck!
GodSend says:
December 29, 2010 at 12:04 pm

PPS Your relationship with His Son, Jesus the Christ, is the CRITICAL SUCCESS FACTOR in His calculations. If you FAIL that test, you will get NO CREDIT for the course! :o And NO, you can’t repeat the course! :(

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FEMA was in New York the Night Before 9/11

Post#2 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:24 am

In early 2001, at the start of Mr. Bush's presidency, his Government's Federal Emergency Management Agency (Fema) warned that a hurricane hitting New Orleans would be the deadliest of the three most likely catastrophes facing America; the others were a massive San Francisco earthquake and, prophetically, a terrorist attack on New York. [Independent]

FEMA was in New York the Night Before 9/11


Click HERE for a RealAudio recording of a statement made by FEMA spokesman Tom Kenney to Dan Rather on Wednesday, September 12th, 2001. In this interview, Kenney states that FEMA was deployed to New York on Monday night, September 10th, to be ready to go into action on Tuesday morning, September 11th.

Kenney: "We're currently one of the first teams that was deployed to support the city of New York for this disaster. We arrived on late Monday night, and went into action on Tuesday morning. And not until today did we get a full opportunity to work the entire site."

Needless to say, this recording caused quite a stir. The official reaction was Kenney was simply confused about the dates.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency has said it did not have urban search and rescue teams in place in New York City prior to the Sept. 11 attacks, contrary to an Internet-based rumor alleging otherwise. ... FEMA officials said Kenney, in the heat of the moment, misstated his team's arrival date. [WorldNetDaily 11/15/01]

However, on the recording Kenney is complaining about not getting full access to the site until "today". Kenney talks about a Monday, a Tuesday, and "today". That's three days.

Ifthe above recording was made on Wednesday, September 12th as claimed, then the explanation that Kenney was simply confused about the days doesn't work, because there is one more day than can be accounted for.

Some news sources went to great lengths to dismiss Kenney's remarks...
Information provided through FOIA requests ... show that FEMA had no personnel in place Sept. 10, 2001 - the day before Sept. 11, 2001 - which would have suggested the agency had prior knowledge of the terrorist attacks.

"This interview [with Tom Kenney] took place sometime on the 13th, two full days after all hell had broken loose," [Devvy Kidd - former head of the now-defunct Wallace Institute] said, noting that she has an audio copy of Rather's interview. "Kenney sounds winded on the audio as if he had been exerting himself. It is more than likely Kenney, having worked virtually nonstop since his arrival in NYC, had his days run together, and his statement simply came out wrong." [WorldNetDaily 11/27/02]

...but the cover story was blown when Rudolph Guliani testified before the 9/11 Commission:

Long Debunked "Rumor" Validated by Giuliani

FEMA in NYC prior to 9-11 for Project TRIPOD terror drill, scheduled for 9-12

As of this writing, June 2, 2004, the transcript of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani's testimony to the 9-11 Commission during the May 18-19, 2004 hearings in New York is the only transcript of that hearing omitted from the Commission website

Did Rudy say something wrong?

"... the reason Pier 92 was selected as a command center was because on the next day, on September 12, Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA, from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade Center. And it was from there that the rest of the search and rescue effort was completed."

Major questions exist as to why FEMA would deny being in New York City prior to 9/11 without mentioning the 9/12 bioterror drill. These questions must now be addressed as the initial suspicions of those who learned of the Tom Kenney statement have been clearly validated. The coincidental presence of a large FEMA team in NYC at the location, Pier 92, which became the Command Center for the entire emergency operation is disturbing. An alert press and a legitimate 9-11 Commission should have raised this issue long ago. [Scoop]

WTC targeted on FEMA book covers (click images for full size)


Flashback: Pearl Harbor was orchestrated - emergency teams were in place:

Shortly before the attack in 1941 President Roosevelt called him [Smith] to the White House for a meeting concerning a Top Secret matter. At this meeting the President advised my father that his intelligence staff had informed him of a pending attack on Pearl Harbor, by the Japanese. He anticipated many casualties and much loss, he instructed my father to send workers and supplies to a holding area at a P.O.E. [port of entry] on the West Coast where they would await further orders to ship out, no destination was to be revealed. He left no doubt in my father's mind that none of the Naval and Military officials in Hawaii were to be informed and he was not to advise the Red Cross officers who were already stationed in the area. When he protested to the President, President Roosevelt told him that the American people would never agree to enter the war in Europe unless they were attack [sic] within their own borders. [USNI]

[In 2000] a project set up by the men who now surround George W Bush said what America needed was "a new Pearl Harbor". [John Pilger]
Like his father, Bush tries to keep a daily diary of his thoughts and observations. [On 9/11], he dictated: "The Pearl Harbor of the 21st century took place today." [Washington Post]

See also:

9/11: Hurricane Katrina Raises A Question
The 9/11 WTC Collapses: An Audio-Video Analysis

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