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When Dealing with Cops - 10 Things we should all Know

Post#1 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:34 pm

When Dealing with Cops - 10 Things we should all Know
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Question – What should I not do if I am accused?
If you have found out that you’re about to be arrested here are ten don’ts.
Number one, don’t run. You cannot outrun radio cars converging on your position. You cannot outrun the computers that search you down. The idea of the fugitive is pretty much a thing of the past. When you run you also run a risk of being injured because of a forceful arrest. Even worse the police might suspect you have a gun or still this may frighten the officers and cause them to more readily draw their weapons. Don’t run.

Rule number two, don’t explain. It is very difficult to dig client’s out of the holes they create for themselves by babbling to the police before they have been asked a single question. Judges and juries always discount what a suspect says that helps him, but gives great weight to anything that hurts him. There is a very good reason why the police have to say “anything you say can be used against you” . If you have to say something say-- “I don’t want to say anything until I speak to an attorney”.

Rule number three, don’t get over confident. Even if you’ve been wrongly arrested don’t get brash, don’t explain, don’t get sassy. The police have a lot of input into what charges are brought. The police can write up a minor crime, a misdemeanor or a major crime, a felony and a lot of that may have to do with how you behave when you are with them. The police can pile on charges and later, if you interfere with them, they can ask the prosecutor to be more severe. If the police are just doing their job and you don’t cause them added difficulty they just may give you the break that you wouldn’t get if you had been more difficult. Just get through it with as little hassle as possible.

Rule number four, don’t give permission to search anywhere. This applies whether you have anything that you don’t want found or nothing, do not give permission to search. If the officer asks to search your person, your bag, your car, your house or apartment it usually means they don’t believe they have the right to search and they need your consent. If an officer orders you to turn over your bag or car keys say loudly but in a polite manner, “you do not have my permission to search.” When there are possible witnesses nearby this may help your attorney exclude items the officers find from evidence later. Remember the three previous don’ts, even if the officers find something you wish they hadn’t --don’t talk, don’t explain, don’t get sassy.
Rule number five, don’t look around nervously at the places you don’t want the police to search. If you do, that will be the first place they do search. If you’re being subjected to a legal or even an illegal search, don’t help the officers by directing them with your eyes to places you don’t want them to look. Don’t sign, don’t gasp, just look straight ahead or look at the ceiling or the ground.
Say nothing and for goodness sake-- don’t answer any questions when the officer goes “hey uh what is this, do you know who this belongs to”, say nothing, just keep your mouth shut.

Rule number six, don’t resist arrest. Just get through it, don’t push the police or try to push their hands away. While resisting may just be a misdemeanor in your state, assaulting an officer or any injury to the police officer may well turn your minor crime into a major felony. Do not resist arrest, just get through it quietly.

Rule number seven, don’t be a mister or miss congeniality, trying to convince the officers of your innocence is useless. Remember the police only need a reasonable suspicion to stop you and only an idea that it is probable that you have committed some crime – it is called probable cause to arrest. The police don’t decide whether you’re guilty or not, that’s the job of the judge or jury. They’ll free you, the judge and the jury, if the officer is wrong. Remember, this isn’t television. If you try to convince the officer that he’s made a mistake, you’re going to say something - remember the Miranda Warning –“can and will be used against you in a court of law”.

Rule number eight, don’t believe what the police tell you when they are trying to get you to talk. Thanks to President Nixon, Reagan and Bush and the folks that they nominated to our Supreme Court, the police are now permitted to lie to you to get you to talk. They make up evidence, they tell you a co-defendant has named you, they say your fingerprints have been found, many different lies and they are allowed to do it. You don’t know what’s a lie, you don’t know what’s the truth, just keep your mouth shut. Don’t believe the police when they are trying to get you talk. Be quiet and wait to speak with your attorney.

*Rule number nine, don’t invite the police inside your home. Don’t step outside either. A person’s home, no matter how humble, is their castle. Even if the police believe you have committed a felony they most often have to get a warrant to get into your house to arrest you. If they ask you to step outside, don’t. Don’t make it easy for them. What should you say? how about–“ I’ll just stand right here. Thank you.” Or “please let me see your warrant if you have one”. Unless you’re running away from them hot after committing a crime, they usually need a warrant to arrest and enter your home. Just stay put, be polite and get through it. When they go to get a warrant you should call your attorney.

Rule number ten, don’t ask to secure your car or go into your home to get something or to tell your wife. Why? Because the police will follow you to your car or inside your home and then will be able to start a warrant-less search. Just stay put, be polite and get through it. Let them control what is going to happen, let them arrest you, let them take you down to the police station and bail out. That’s all you can do and call your attorney.

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Post#2 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:35 pm

All right folks, read the above and LEARN it. It may save you some "Time", especially Rule #8, because of Laws passed by Nixon, Reagan and Bush, LE can LIE LIE LIE....They can say anything and everything or whatever it takes to make you "Confess".

The system was written by John E. Reid, as a matter of fact it is called "The Reid Method" and is in its FOURTH printing. BEWARE.

Most police detectives and interrogators in Michigan are trained in the following method of interrogation. Key points to look at here, the suspect really not allowed to talk much until step 8. Another key point with this technique is that it is not concerned with voluntariness of the statement until the police are recording the statement at the end of Step 9.



The REID 9 STEPS OF INTERROGATION, IN BRIEF





Step One: Direct Positive Confrontation



A. Presentation of fact synopsis to suspect.

B. Reference to evidence, real or fictional.

C. Suspect is told that he is involved in the crime.

D. Behavioral observation of suspect.

E. Restatement of confrontation, stronger or weaker.



Step Two: Theme Development



A. Transition phases from confrontation.

B. Propose reasons that will justify or excuse the commission of the crime.

C. Behavioral assessment of suspect to choose proper theme.

D. Longest portion of 9 steps.



Step Three: Stopping Denials



A. Both guilty and innocent deny the crime at issue.

B. Starts during direct positive confrontation.

C. Absence of denials in step two indicates probable guilt.

D. Interrogator recognizes and stops denial before it is complete.

E. Progress is indicated by cessation or weakening of denials.



Step Four: Overcoming Objections



A. Suspect proposes a reason why he allegedly did not commit the crime.

B. Normally offered by only the guilty.

C. Indicates progress n the interrogation if given after denials.

D. Handled differently than denials by first listening and accepting.

E. Proper handling of objections helps overcome the subject’s defenses.



Step Five: Getting the Suspect’s Attention



A. Suspect is on defensive and is tense and confused.

B. The themes will work only is suspect is listening.

C. Interrogator reaches peak of sincerity in his speech.

D. Physical closeness and use of verbal techniques to command attention.

E. Physical gestures of sincerity are used to establish attitude of understanding and concern.



Step Six: The Suspect Quiets and Listens



A. The physical signs of surrender begin to appear.

B. The themes are shortened and lead toward alternatives.

C. Establishment of eye contact is most important at this point by verbal and physical techniques.

D. Tears at this stage positively indicate the suspect’s guilt.



Step Seven: Alternatives



A. Non-threatening to suspect they concern some minor aspect of the crime.

B. Gives choice between acceptable reason and unacceptable reason for committing the crime.

C. One alternative is stressed to lead subject to choose the positive alternative.

D. Either choice is an admission of guilt.



Step Eight: Bringing the Suspect into the Conversation.



A. The acceptance of one alternative is reinforced by the interrogator.

B. The suspect is encouraged to talk about aspect of the crime.

C. The use of realistic words is introduced by the interrogator.

D. Initial corroboration of the confession is begun.

E. Oral witnessing of admissions by two persons.



Step Nine: The Confession



A. Reduction of oral statement into written, typed, or electronically recorded form.

B. Voluntariness of statement is established along with corroboration of details.

C. Suspect’s signing of statement is witnessed by two or more persons.



Post Interrogation Interview:



A. Provides a method to determine technique effectiveness.

B. Keeps guilty suspect in proper frame of mind during typing of formal statement.

C. Allows interrogator to calm down an innocent suspect who was confronted.







This comes from Practical Aspects of Interview and Interrogation, David E. Zulawski, and Douglas E. Wicklander,

CRC Press, Ann Arbor, 1998.

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Post#3 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:35 pm

Well, hopefully you've made it this far, and understand the above enough to "pass it on" to loved ones.

For the next part of your training, read this.....openly discuss it-or not.

http://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the ... tector.pdf

Pay special attention to Chapters 3 and the end of Chapter 4.



Most people have already seen James Joseph Duane's excellent video, and there has been discussion about it. Have you seen it?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3865&hl=en#

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