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CIA is the mother of all TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS

Post#1 » Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:41 pm

We have been saying this forever.

We dont call alqaida AL-CIA-DUH for nothing.
But the CIA has help with UKs MI5 and Israels Mosad/
pk

x-CIA Operatives reveal in their books that the CIA is the mother of all TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS

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*** For Educational & Further Research Purposes only. *** Edited excerpts, non-partisan, pro-truth & honesty, pro-peace & anti-war,
and anti-crime. The purpose is to expose corruptions, frauds, deceptions, lies, criminal plans, cover-ups and free-speech
silencing by powerful people in governments, foundations, corporations and media, which are done using the name of democracy, human
rights, religion, cults, occults, patriotism, economy, business, media, elections, justice, charity, etc. and are used to trick
the public into hatred & wars and out of their lives, money and freedoms while the propaganda we are subjected to makes us believe
that we have evolved to where such things cannot happen. Please share what you learn with others who do not have access to the
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA
Subject: Ex-CIA operatives reveal in their books that the CIA is the Mother of all TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS (torture, insurgencies,
death squads, 911, OKC, genocides, murders, coverups, propaganda, overthrows of democracies and dictatorships, disappearances, etc.
etc.)

Operation Mockingbird: "You could get a journalist cheaper than a good call girl, for a couple hundred dollars a month." CIA
operative discussing with Philip Graham, editor Washington Post, on the availability and prices of journalists willing to peddle CIA
propaganda and cover stories. "Katherine The Great," by Deborah Davis (New York: Sheridan Square Press, 1991)
http://911review.org/Wiki/OperationMockingbird.shtml <BLOCKED::http://911review.org/Wiki/OperationMockingbird.shtml> on The
Subversion Of America's Free Press By The CIA. March 24, 2000.


See Professor McCoy Expose on the History of CIA Interrogation, From the Cold War to the War on Terror near the end. First some
quotes:


"It is the function of the CIA to keep the world unstable, and to propagandize and teach the American people to hate, so we will let
the Establishment spend any amount of money on arms." -John Stockwell

"Enemies are necessary for the wheels of the U.S. military machine to turn." -John Stockwell

"Short, successful military adventures are as effective as the Super Bowl in diverting people's attention from unpleasant truths."
-John Stockwell http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... le4068.htm

* John <http://www.totse.com/en/politics/centra ... awars.html> Stockwell - The Secret Wars of the CIA,
1986 lecture transcript

* Excerpts from a talk by John <http://www.serendipity.li/cia/stock1.html> Stockwell


J. William Fulbright, US Senator: "To criticize one's country is to do it a service .... Criticism, in short, is more than a right;
it is an act of patriotism - a higher form of patriotism, I believe, than the familiar rituals and national adulation."


Michael Parenti:"To oppose the policies of a government does not mean you are against the country or the people that the government
supposedly represents. Such opposition should be called what it really is: democracy, or democratic dissent, or having a critical
perspective about what your leaders are doing. Either we have the right to democratic dissent and criticism of these policies or we
all lie down and let the leader, the Fuhrer, do what is best, while we follow uncritically, and obey whatever he commands. That's
just what the Germans did with Hitler, and look where it got them."


Edward Abbey:"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government."


Emma Goldman: "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism.... Patriotism assumes that our globe is divided into
little spots, each one surrounded by an iron gate. Those who had the fortune of being born on some particular spot, consider
themselves better, nobler, grander, more intelligent than the living beings inhabiting any other spot. It is, therefore, the duty of
everyone living on that chosen spot to fight, kill, and die in the attempt to impose his superiority upon all others."


Dalton Trumbo, Johnny Got His Gun: "You can always hear the people who are willing to sacrifice somebody else's life. They're plenty
loud and they talk all the time. You can find them in churches and schools and newspapers and legislatures and congress. That's
their business. They sound wonderful. Death before dishonor. This ground sanctified by blood. These men who died so gloriously. They
shall not have died in vain. Our noble dead."


Noam Chomsky: "The point of public relations slogans like "Support our troops" is that they don't mean anything... That's the whole
point of good propaganda. You want to create a slogan that nobody's going to be against, and everybody's going to be for. Nobody
knows what it means, because it doesn't mean anything. Its crucial value is that it diverts your attention from a question that does
mean something: Do you support our policy? That's the one you're not allowed to talk about."


John Perkins, Confessions of an Economic Hit Man: "Economic hit men (EHMs) are highly paid professionals who cheat countries around
the globe out of trillions of dollars. They funnel money from the World Bank, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID),
and other foreign "aid" organizations into the coffers of huge corporations and the pockets of a few wealthy families who control
the planet's natural resources. Their tools include fraudulent financial reports, rigged elections, payoffs, extortion, sex, and
murder. They play a game as old as empire, but one that has taken on new and terrifying dimensions during this time of
globalization. I should know; I was an EHM."


The American Heritage Dictionary, 1983: "fascism - A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right,
typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."


Huey Long: "If fascism ever came to the United States, it would be wrapped in an American flag."


Star Wars filmmaker George Lucas: "All democracies turn into dictatorships - but not by coup. The people give their democracy to a
dictator, whether it's Julius Caesar or Napoleon or Adolf Hitler. Ultimately, the general population goes along with the idea...
That's the issue that I've been exploring: How did the Republic turn into the Empire ... and how does a democracy become a
dictatorship?"


Alex Carey: "The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of
democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against
democracy."


Robert Scheer, Los Angeles Times: "The fact is ... that when totalitarian nations..... play ball with U.S. business interests, we like
them just fine. But when Venezuela's freely elected president threatens powerful corporate interests, the Bush administration treats
him as an enemy."


William Shirer: "For the last fifty years we've been supporting right-wing governments, and that is a puzzlement to me...I don't
understand what there is in the American character... that almost automatically, even when we have a liberal President, we support
fascist dictatorships or are tolerant towards them."


Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf: "The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of the nation
are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The primitive simplicity of
their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies but would be
ashamed to tell a big one."


President Thomas Jefferson: "The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who
knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors."


Theodore Dreiser, 1871-1945: "The American press, with a very few exceptions, is a kept press. Kept by the big corporations the way
a whore is kept by a rich man."


Mark Crispin Miller: "Media manipulation in the U.S. today is more efficient than it was in Nazi Germany, because here we have the
pretense that we are getting all the information we want. That misconception prevents people from even looking for the truth."


Michael Parenti: "The enormous gap between what US leaders do in the world and what Americans think their leaders are doing is one
of the great propaganda accomplishments of the dominate political mythology."


Tom Fenton: "Americans are too broadly underinformed to digest nuggets of information that seem to contradict what they know of the
world ... Instead, news channels prefer to feed Americans a constant stream of simplified information, all of which fits what they
already know. That way they don't have to devote more air time or newsprint space to explanations or further investigations."


Walter Lippmann: "The news and truth are not the same thing."


Arundhati Roy, Indian author and activist: "In America, the arms industry, the oil industry and the major media networks-indeed,
U.S. foreign policy-are all controlled by the same business combines." (shadows of President Eisenhower´s warning about the
industrial-Congressional-military complex)


Neil Postman: "Television is altering the meaning of "being informed" by creating a species of information that might properly be
called disinformation... Disinformation does not mean false information. It means misleading information - misplaced, irrelevant,
fragmented or superficial information - information that creates the illusion of knowing something, but which in fact leads one away
from knowing."


Noam Chomsky: "The media serve the interests of state and corporate power, which are closely interlinked, framing their reporting
and analysis in a manner supportive of established privilege and limiting debate and discussion accordingly."


Veteran New York Times reporter John Hess: " never saw a foreign intervention that the [New York] Times did not support, never
saw a fare increase or a rent increase or a utility rate increase that it did not endorse, never saw it take the side of labor in a
strike or lockout, or advocate a raise for underpaid workers. And don't let me get started on universal health care and Social
Security. So why do people think the Times is liberal?"


Robert Jensen: "The United States is a society in which people not only can get by without knowing much about the wider world but
are systematically encouraged not to think independently or critically and instead to accept the mythology of the United States as a
benevolent, misunderstood giant as it lumbers around the world trying to do good."


Arundhati Roy, author and activist: "America continues to remain the enigma it has always been - a curiously insular people
administered by a pathologically meddlesome, promiscuous government."


Carl Boggs:"The U.S. record of war crimes has been, from the nineteenth century to the present, a largely invisible one, with no
government, no political leaders, no military officials, no lower-level operatives held accountable for criminal actions... Anyone
challenging this mythology is quickly marginalized, branded a traitor or Communist or terrorist or simply a lunatic beyond the pale
of reasonable discussion."


Mark Hertzgaard:"Americans cannot escape a certain responsibility for what is done in our name around the world. In a democracy,
even one as corrupted as ours, ultimate authority rests with the people. We empower the government with our votes, finance it with
our taxes, bolster it with our silent acquiescence. If we are passive in the face of America's official actions overseas, we in
effect endorse them."


William Blum: "[American leaders] are perhaps not so much immoral as they are amoral. It's not that they take pleasure in causing so
much death and suffering. It's that they just don't care ... the same that could be said about a sociopath. As long as the death and
suffering advance the agenda of the empire, as long as the right people and the right corporations gain wealth and power and
privilege and prestige, as long as the death and suffering aren't happening to them or people close to them ... then they just don't
care about it happening to other people, including the American soldiers whom they throw into wars and who come home - the ones who
make it back alive - with Agent Orange or Gulf War Syndrome eating away at their bodies. American leaders would not be in the
positions they hold if they were bothered by such things."


The Nation magazine: War is caused by elites acting in what they take to be their own interests, institutional violence promulgated
by ruling groups for personal gain."


Hermann Goering: "Why of course the people don't want war... That is understood. But after all it is the leaders of the country who
determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist
dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of
patriotism and exposing the country to danger."


John Nichols and Robert McChesney: "The problem the United States faces is that almost all of its invasions violate international
law, and sometimes, as in the case of Iraq, in a blatant manner. So how do the political elite and the news media reconcile this
contradiction? Simple: They ignore it. It is virtually unthinkable for a mainstream U.S. reporter to even pursue this issue."


William Blum: "From 1945 to 2003, the United States attempted to overthrow more than 40 foreign governments, and to crush more than
30 populist-nationalist movements fighting against intolerable regimes. In the process, the US bombed some 25 countries, caused the
end of life for several million people, and condemned many millions more to a life of agony and despair."


Howard Zinn: "We were not born critical of existing society. There was a moment in our lives (or a month, or a year) when certain
facts appeared before us, startled us, and then caused us to question beliefs that were strongly fixed in our consciousness-embedded
there by years of family prejudices, orthodox schooling, imbibing of newspapers, radio, and television."


Arundhati Roy, author and activist: "The International Coalition Against Terror is largely a cabal of the richest countries in the
world. Between them, they manufacture and sell almost all of the world's weapons, and they possess the largest stockpile of weapons
of mass destruction-chemical, biological and nuclear. They have fought the most wars, account for most of the genocide, subjection,
ethnic cleansing and human rights violations in modem history, and have sponsored, armed and financed untold numbers of dictators
and despots. Between them, they have worshipped, almost deified, the cult of violence and war."


A few CIA insiders and "whistleblowers"


* A.B. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.B._%22Buzzy%22_Krongard> "Buzzy" Krongard
* John <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stockwell> Stockwell
* L. Fletcher Prouty <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Fletcher_Prouty>
* Philip <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Agee> Agee
* William <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Blum> Blum
* Robert <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Baer> Baer
* <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... ction=edit> Ralph McGehee

* Michael Ruppert (ex LA PD) http://www.copvcia.com <http://www.copvcia.com/>

* HOLOCAUST BY THE CIA: John Stockwell, former CIA Station Chief in Angola in 1976, working for then Director of the CIA, George
Bush. ''How 6 million People Were killed in CIA secret wars against Third World countries'' - Url.:
<javascript:ol('http://tinyurl.com/gpcg');> http://tinyurl.com/gpcg

* "Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we Bushes have done to this nation, we would be chased down in
the streets and lynched." - George Bush Senior speaking in an interview with Sarah McClendon in December 1992. - And here's why:
'George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography' - by Webster G. Tarpley & Anton Chaitkin - Chapter - II - The Hitler Project - Url.:
<javascript:ol('http://tinyurl.com/57qxk');> http://tinyurl.comaganda: "US military will continue to pay Iraqi media to publish
reports favourable to American forces" - Url.: <javascript:ol('http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id%3d1683768');>
http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id=1683768

* 'Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one' < A.J. Liebling - The infamous US 'Lie Factory' - Url.:
<javascript:ol('http://tinyurl.com/8ncal');> http://tinyurl.com/8ncal

* The 9/11 WTC drama was by the PNAC criminals planned terror - Url.: <javascript:ol('http://tinyurl.com/b7ygk');>
http://tinyurl.com/b7ygk -
It was an inside job - Google - Url.: <javascript:ol('http://tinyurl.com/7tj9d');> http://tinyurl.com/7tj9d

* Nobel Literature Prize Laureate and 'Gulag Holocaust' survivor Alexander Solzjenitsyn investigated the origin of the 'Russian
Revolution' and the concentration camps: he published and was damned - Url.: <javascript:ol('http://tinyurl.com/qth6z');>
http://tinyurl.com/qth6z

* Who's financing? - The 'Federal Reserve' and it's usurers is the absolute biggest crime against all humanity ever. -
Url.: <javascript:ol('http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm');> http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm

<javascript:ol('http://tinyurl.com/57qxk');> /57qxk

* Global Predators - OEFrauds-R-Us¹ - The Bush Family Saga - Url.: <javascript:ol('http://tinyurl.com/elarx');>
http://tinyurl.com/elarx

* The 9/11 drama: Anybody who after seeing this video - '9/11 revisited' - still believes the version from the 'PNAC pack' - the
Washington cabal - is beyond all professional help - Url.: <javascript:ol('http://tinyurl.com/r5sx4');> http://tinyurl.com/r5sx4

* The Global Elite: Who are they? - Url.: <javascript:ol('http://tinyurl.com/c5xv5');> http://tinyurl.com/c5xv5

* White Haus drive to cover-up leaks concerning their crimes - PNAC-propaganda sheet Washington Post: ''White House Trains Efforts
on Media Leaks Sources, Reporters Could Be Prosecuted'' - Url.: <javascript:ol('http://tinyurl.com/e7t6o');>
http://tinyurl.com/e7t6o

* Anti-propaganda: On the Net - Reporters Committee - Url.: <javascript:ol('http://www.rcfp.org/');> http://www.rcfp.org/

* US War & Propaganda machine: Rumsfeld Declares War on Bad Press - Url.: <javascript:ol('http://tinyurl.com/loxqy');>
http://tinyurl.com/loxqy

* ABC - US prop* MSNBC - Live Vote - Concerning the "Project for a Nefarious American Century" (PNAC) - ''Do you believe President
Bush's actions justify impeachment?'' - YES: 86% - Url.: <javascript:ol('http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904/');>
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904/

*Read the Fightin' Cock Flyer - Url.: <javascript:ol('http://fightincockflyer.blogspot.com/');>
http://fightincockflyer.blogspot.com/

* THE ONLY SOLUTION? - Help all the troops - of whatever nationality - to come back from abroad! - AND WITH ALL THEIR WEAPONS, WHICH
WE ARE FORCED TO PAY FOR BY TAXES - [ <javascript:ol('http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm');> http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm]
- We need them badly at home in many countries to fight with us against our so called 'governments' and their malignant managers -
Url.: <javascript:ol('http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/');> http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/

FOREIGN PRESS FOUNDATION
<javascript:ol('http://forpressfound.blogspot.com/');> http://forpressfound.blogspot.com/
Editor: Henk Ruyssenaars
<javascript:ol('http://tinyurl.com/amn3q');> http://tinyurl.com/amn3q
The Netherlands
fpf@chello.nl

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/156751 ... 9?v=glance
<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/156751 ... e&n=283155> &n=283155

Killing Hope: U. S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II (Paperback)
by
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/searc ... ailability
%2C-daterank/104-5988930-8555109> William Blum



*
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 8&v=glance> Rogue State,
3rd Edition : A Guide to the World's Only Superpower by
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/searc ... ndex=books&
field-author=William%20Blum> William Blum

*
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 8&v=glance> War Made
Easy : How Presidents and Pundits Keep Spinning Us to Death by
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/searc ... ndex=books&
field-author=Norman%20%20Solomon> Norman Solomon

*
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 8&v=glance> The CIA's
Greatest Hits (The Real Story Series) by
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/searc ... ndex=books&
field-author=Mark%20Zepezauer> Mark Zepezauer

*
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 8&v=glance> Inevitable
Revolutions: The United States in Central America by
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/searc ... ndex=books&
field-author=Walter%20Lafeber> Walter Lafeber

*
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 8&v=glance> Killing Hope
: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II-Updated Through 2003 by
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/searc ... ndex=books&
field-author=William%20Blum> William Blum

* <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 8&v=glance>
Freeing the World to Death : Essays on the American Empire by
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/searc ... ndex=books&
field-author=William%20Blum> William Blum
* <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 8&v=glance>
West-Bloc Dissident: A Cold War Political Memoir by
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/searc ... ndex=books&
field-author=William%20Blum> William Blum
* <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 8&v=glance>
Against Empire by
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/searc ... ndex=books&
field-author=Michael%20Parenti> Michael Parenti
* <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 8&v=glance> In
Search of Enemies: A CIA Story by
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/searc ... ndex=books&
field-author=John%20Stockwell> John Stockwell
* <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 8&v=glance> The
Sorrows of Empire : Militarism, Secrecy, and the End of the Republic [The American Empire Project] by
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/searc ... ndex=books&
field-author=Chalmers%20Johnson> Chalmers Johnson



http://www.serendipity.li/cia.html

* The <http://www.serendipity.li/cia.html#cia_ ... rafficking> CIA's Drug-Trafficking Activities
* The <http://www.serendipity.li/cia.html#cia_ ... ng_at_mena> CIA, Cocaine
Smuggling at Mena and the Train Deaths
* Mind <http://www.serendipity.li/cia.html#mind ... nd_control> Control and the CIA's Use of LSD
* Ralph McGehee <http://www.serendipity.li/cia.html#mcgehee#mcgehee> and CIABASE
* More <http://www.serendipity.li/cia.html#more ... ut_the_cia> about the CIA
* Links to Further <http://www.serendipity.li/cia/cia_lynx.html> Documents Concerning the CIA

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/C ... tsCIA.html


CIA Censors Books


Bush Perfects the Cover-up


excerpted from the book


Secrets


The CIA's War at Home


by Angus Mackenzie


University of California Press, 1997, paper








p42
In March 1972, a typescript of an article and a related book proposal were purloined by a CIA agent from a New York publisher and
forwarded to Langley. For Richard Ober, the manuscript was right out of a bad dream. A former senior CIA official, Victor Marchetti,
was planning to write a book exposing CIA deceptions. Marchetti had been the executive assistant to the deputy director of Central
Intelligence and had attended regular planning and intelligence meetings attended by Richard Helms. He had also been a courier for
the Agency group that approves covert operations. The most carefully guarded CIA information was called Sensitive Compartmented
Information, or SCI, and was distributed to officials strictly on a need-to-know basis. But his position had allowed Marchetti an
overview of the Agency purposely denied to most CIA officers.


Over time, Marchetti had become troubled by the Agency's role in the overthrow of democracies on behalf of dictators and by CIA
manipulation of other nations' internal policies. He saw evidence of corruption in overseas operations. Marchetti's intellectual
honesty was also offended by intrigue inside CIA headquarters that disrupted the accuracy of intelligence estimates. Furthermore,
the Vietnam War had disillusioned Marchetti, whose sons would soon reach draft age. And when Eagle Scouts from a troop he served as
scoutmaster began dodging the draft, Marchetti began to feel his CIA job was isolating him.


Upon quitting the Agency at age thirty-nine, after a highly successful fourteen-year career, Marchetti wrote a novel called The Rope
Dancer. Prior to its publication by Grosset and Dunlap in I97I, a CIA officer read a version of the manuscript at Marchetti's home,
in keeping with the rules set out in the CIA secrecy contract Marchetti had signed. The CIA officer found no security breaches, and
publication went forward.


What troubled Ober and Ober's immediate supervisor, Thomas Karamessines, was one particular line in the novel. Marchetti's central
character is speaking with jaundiced anger about the fictional CIA: "Somebody should publicize the Agency's mistakes." Suppose
Marchetti got it in his head to write about MHCHAOS? Concerned, Helms himself ordered Marchetti placed under surveillance beginning
on March 23, I972.


Within days, an article written by Marchetti appeared in the April 3 Nation under the headline "CIA: The President's Loyal Tool."
Marchetti wrote that the CIA was using the news media to create myths about the Agency and was fooling such influential publications
as the New York Times and Newsweek. Additionally, he claimed, the CIA had continued to control youth, labor, and cultural
organizations in the United States, notwithstanding the scandals triggered by the report in Ramparts. Marchetti also castigated
Helms for spending too little time engaged with the intricacies of intelligence analysis, satirically calling him a "master spy" who
conducted his most important weekly meetings in less than twenty minutes. Marchetti concluded: "Secrecy, like power, tends to
corrupt, and it will not be easy to persuade those who rule in the United States to change their ways."


p48
Even while MHCHAOS was surviving the Marchetti scare, the CIA inspector general, an internal cop, was the focal point of a second
emergency. Worried that the inspector general might discover MHCHAOS and expose it, Helms called in Colby, Ober, and Karamessines
for a meeting on December 5, I972. Helms emphasized the importance of running a cleaner, less dubious-looking operation. There was a
need to proceed cautiously, he said, to avoid a showdown with "some CIA personnel." Nonetheless, Helms was adamant that MHCHAOS not
be abandoned. It will not be "stopped simply because some members of the organization do not like this activity," he insisted.


Helms cautioned Ober against attending meetings of the Justice Department Intelligence Evaluation Committee, because security was
lax and its role in domestic politics might lead investigative reporters to MHCHAOS. Helms had come up with a solution to the
problem of CIA officers who doubted the legality of MHCHAOS. Henceforth, it would be described within the Agency as an operation
against international terrorism. "To a [sic] maximum extent possible, Ober should become identified with the subject of terrorism
inside the Agency as well as in the Intelligence Community," Helms ordered. Afterward, Colby sent Karamessines a summary of the
meeting: "A clear priority is to be given in this general field to the subject of terrorism. This should bring about a reduction in
the intensity of attention to political dissidents in the United States not apt to be involved in terrorism." The change in label
was evidently intended to improve the Agency's image and cover, on the assumption that "terrorists" were more believable as a
genuine threat than "dissidents."


But there was in fact to be little change in targets. MHCHAOS continued to hold radicals in its sights, specifically radical youths,
Blacks, women, and antiwar militants. The label "international terrorist" was designed to replace "political dissident" as the
ongoing justification for illegal domestic operations. And in the final move to clean up Ober's act, in December Helms put an end to
the operation of the five-year-old MHCHAOS by formally transforming it into the International Terrorism Group-with Ober still in
charge.


Only seventeen days later, Helms and Karamessines announced their resignations from the CIA. Nixon named James Schlesinger to
replace Helms as director, and Schlesinger in turn replaced Karamessines with Colby as deputy director for plans. In a euphemistic
change, Schlesinger and Colby renamed the Directorate for Plans as the Directorate for Operations, which was the CIA's way of
saying, "Let's call domestic spying a response to terrorism."


p53
One of the most productive agents, Sal Ferrera, was at this stage operating overseas, where his targets were Americans. Upon first
landing in Europe in the summer of I97I, Ferrera had moved fast. He was in Zurich on July 7 and in Rome on July I,. In September he
was in Copenhagen, spying on peace activists who were involved in an underground railroad for U.S. GIs who had deserted because of
qualms over Vietnam. Ferrera then based himself in Paris, site of the Vietnamese embassies, where unofficial and official
peaceseekers from the United States and Vietnam were trying to negotiate an end to the war. In his nice guy role, Ferrera sought out
and befriended Americans sympathetic to the peace effort. He introduced himself to the five-member youth contingent attending the
Versailles Peace Assembly, an international conference of antiwar activists.


Ferrera's cover was the same as it had been in the United States, that of a leftist journalist. College Press Service distributed
his writings to its U.S. campus subscribers. In one article, Ferrera wrote about German radical political groups and the divisions
between them. Another article, syndicated by the Alternative Features Service to underground newspapers in the United States, was
headlined "Just Another Day in Derry" and analyzed the ideological conflicts within the Irish Republican Army.


Ferrera had proved adept at penetrating the CIA's political opponents in the United States. He was well established as a MHCHAOS
star. But his new assignment was his most sensitive yet. He was to befriend former CIA officer Philip Agee, who was writing a book
filled with one CIA secret after another-revealing far more than those divulged by Sheinbaum, Wood, Marchetti, and McCoy put
together. Because Agee had served as a CIA case officer on the streets in South America, he had been privy to more intelligence work
than the office-bound Marchetti. But, like Marchetti, Agee had grown disenchanted, responding to a general cultural wave of doubts
about the U.S. imperial role in Vietnam. Agee had moved to Paris, out of the reach of U.S. courts. In France, the CIA could not
enforce the secrecy contract Agee had signed.


Living in the same expatriate community, however, was Ferrera, who began to frequent the Paris cafe Le Yams, where Agee often sipped
coffee and socialized. Ferrera introduced himself as a reporter for College Press Service. Once he had become a familiar fixture at
the cafe, Ferrera introduced Agee to a young woman he invitingly described as an "heiress." Agee had spent all his savings while at
work on his book and was desperately poor. When the woman expressed an interest in financing him while he finished the book, Agee
allowed her to read the unfinished manuscript over a weekend. She responded with enthusiastic support, giving Agee enough money to
see him through several months of writing.


Of course, Ferrera now had the perfect rationalization to see Agee's manuscript at any point. As Agee grew more and more dependent
on Ferrera, he began using Ferrera's address as his own. One of the letters that came to Ferrera's apartment was from Agee's father,
and it described CIA Counsel John Greaney's visit to the Agee family home in the United States. Greaney had given Agee's father a
copy of his son's secrecy contract, along with a copy of the recent Marchetti court decision.


Ferrera also apparently arranged a typewriter swap, allowing him to introduce into Agee's apartment a portable Royal typewriter and
a case crammed with microphones and transmitters. Agee soon discovered the surveillance device and had it photographed; eventually
the photo of the bugged typewriter would appear on the cover of his book. In the meantime, though, Ferrera had learned that Agee was
about to identify CIA operatives in South America. This advance notice enabled the Agency to move the operatives, as well as to take
preventive measures to reduce the embarrassment from a host of other stories in Agee's book.


The book itself, Inside the Company: CIA Diary, was published in I975 without prior censorship. In a twenty-two-page appendix, Agee
named scores of individuals and organizations controlled, supported, or used by the CIA. Agee had by this time realized that Ferrera
was an undercover operative, and Ferrera's name was included in the appendix, linked to the impressively wired typewriter case
pictured on the cover. The book jacket excerpted a Washington Post reference to Marchetti's blank-filled book and boasted, "There
are no blanks in Philip Agee's." Seizing on the Agee case, CIA officials in Washington began to agitate for a law to imprison anyone
who publicly identified intelligence agents.


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Bush Perfects the Cover-up


Amid the numerous scandals of the Nixon administration and under particular pressure from partisans of Ralph Nader, Congress was
moving toward a new openness. Amendments to strengthen the I966 Freedom of Information Act were drafted. The FOIA had been reduced
to near uselessness by bureaucratic intransigence and judicial refusals to restrain executive secrecy. The U.S. Supreme Court, in
deciding the I973 FOIA case Environmental Protection Agency v Mink, had said the courts should not be allowed to inspect classified
national security records unless Congress directed otherwise. By rejecting judicial review, the Supreme Court had in the Mink case
adopted basically the same line of reasoning as had Chief Judge Haynsworth in the Marchetti case.


In the fall of I974, however, Congress amended the FOIA to reverse the Mink decision. The main proponents of the amendment were
Edward Kennedy in the Senate and John E. Moss in the House. The amendment explicitly authorized federal judges to inspect classified
records in chambers in order to determine whether the government was warranted in withholding them from public release. In addition,
Congress added teeth to the FOIA in several other ways. In the future, the government would have to prove why secrecy was necessary
for each specific case. Government agencies would have to publish indexes identifying information that had been made public, as a
means of assisting citizens in locating government documents. And the fees charged to citizens for copies of government records,
which sometimes were prohibitively high, could be waived under a new range of circumstances, thus ensuring that fees could not be
used as barriers to disclosures. Bureaucratic delays in the release of data also were sharply curtailed. A new deadline of ten
working days was imposed on the government for all FOIA requests. In a case in which the government denied a request, a twenty-day
appeal period was established, after which the case could be taken to court.


The CIA would spend the next two decades fighting the release of documents to citizens who requested them under the FOIA. For CIA
officials, whose lives were dedicated to secrecy, the logic behind the checks and balances of the three-branch system of government
may have been incomprehensible. The idea that federal judges not trained in espionage could inspect CIA files and even order their
release was enough to curdle the blood of secret operatives like Richard Ober. CIA officers felt that neither Congress nor the
courts could comprehend the perils that faced secret agents. Their instinctive reaction, therefore, was to find any avenue by which
they could avoid judicial or journalistic scrutiny.


A month after Congress enacted the new FOIA amendments, someone at the CIA leaked the news of MHCHAOS to Seymour Hersh at the New
York Times. Hersh's article appeared on the front page of the December 22, I974, issue under the headline "Huge C.I.A. Operation
Reported in U.S. against Antiwar Forces, Other Dissidents in Nixon Years." Although sparse in detail, the article revealed that the
CIA had spied on U.S. citizens in a massive domestic operation, keeping 10,000 dossiers on individuals and groups and violating the
I947 National Security Act. Hersh reported that intelligence officials were claiming the domestic operations began as legitimate
spying to investigate overseas connections to dissenters.


Gerald Ford, who only four and a half months earlier had assumed the presidency in the wake of Nixon's resignation, took the public
position that the CIA would be ordered to cease and desist. William Colby, who had replaced James Schlesinger as CIA director, was
told to issue a report on MHCHAOS to Henry Kissinger. Apparently Ford was not informed that Kissinger was well aware of the
operation. A few days later, after Helms categorically denied that the CIA had conducted "illegal" spying, Ford named Vice President
Nelson Rockefeller to head a commission that would be charged with making a more comprehensive report. Ford's choice of Rockefeller
to head the probe was most fortunate for Ober. Rockefeller was closely allied with Kissinger, who had been a central figure in the
former New York governor's I968 presidential primary campaign. Although Rockefeller was well regarded in media and political circles
for his streak of independence, it was all but certain from the beginning that his report would amount to a cover-up.


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A continuing series of scandals had eroded the CIA's public credibility. In November I975, Frank Church's Senate committee reported
that the CIA had tried to assassinate Cuban leader Fidel Castro and had engineered the murder of Patrice Lumumba, the prime minister
of the new Republic of the Congo. The Church Committee also contradicted the sworn testimony of Richard Helms by revealing that the
CIA had helped engineer the I973 coup in Chile. Moreover, several former CIA operatives-Victor Marchetti, Philip Agee, and Stanley
Sheinbaum-had joined the CounterSpy advisory board to help consolidate the outside pressure against the CIA.'


The CIA was not without resources, of course. In I975, former CIA officers, including David Atlee Phillips, organized the
Association of Retired Intelligence Officers to undertake a public relations campaign to enhance the Agency's image. Phillips also
operated behind the scenes. He told Marchetti, whose name was on the CounterSpy masthead, "Get your name off. We're going to land on
them." Marchetti respected the CIA's power and took the warning to heart. He withdrew from the magazine and talked others into
leaving with him.


Just before Christmas I975, a tragedy had provided an opportunity to shift the scrutiny away from the CIA scandals. In Athens,
Greece, the CIA chief of station Richard Skeffington Welch was assassinated on December 23, gunned down as he returned to his house
from a party at the U.S. ambassador's residence. His death focused attention on the danger inherent in publishing the names of CIA
agents. Welch had been identified as a CIA officer in a letter to the editor published by the Athens News a month earlier on
November 25. The letter, signed by the "Committee of Greeks and Greek Americans to Prevent Their Country, Their Fatherland, from
Being Perverted to the Uses of the CIA," denounced the CIA for its role in the installation of a reactionary Greek government. While
Welch's assassins most likely learned about his CIA affiliation from this letter (or from his decision to live in an Athens house
well known as a CIA residence), most of the blame for his death was aimed at CounterSpy, which also had printed Welch's name.


In the midst of the Senate vote to confirm George Bush in January I976, intelligence officials were making no secret of their
outrage over Welch's death and their fury at CounterSpy. A well-known reporter told editor Tim Butz that his own life had been
threatened by angry former intelligence officers, and Butz began to carry a gun. Members of the New York intelligentsia, who had
been drawn to CounterSpy by Norman Mailer, began to keep their distance. It was unseemly to be contributing money to a magazine
accused of having blood on its hands.


Even though CIA critics were put on the defensive by the Welch assassination, it did not take Bush long to appreciate that he had
his work cut out for him when it came to casting the Agency in a positive light. Less than a month after taking over, he had to
answer questions about a report by the House Select Committee on Intelligence. Although the House had voted to suppress the report
at President Ford's request, someone leaked it. The whole report, known as the Pike Report after U.S. Representative Otis Pike,
Democrat of New York, was reprinted in the Village Voice issues of February I6 and z3, I976.


The Pike Report was shocking because it provided the first official overview of CIA excesses: the Agency ran large propaganda
operations, bankrolled armies of its own, and incurred billions in unsupervised expenses. The report revealed that top CIA officials
had tolerated cost overruns nearly 400 percent beyond the Agency budget for foreign operations and 500 percent beyond the budget for
domestic operations, for years concealing their profligacy from Congress. The CIA also was said to have secretly built up a military
capacity larger than most foreign armies; the CIA and FBI between them had spent $I0 billion with little independent supervision.
Further, the CIA's single biggest category of overseas covert projects involved the news media: it supported friendly news
publications, planted articles in newspapers, and distributed ClA-sponsored books and leaflets. The phony CIA dispatches had often
found their way into domestic news stories, thus polluting with inaccuracies the news received by Americans.



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We now take a look at what lies behind the shocking images of torture at Abu Ghraib by turning to the history of the CIA and torture
techniques. The International Committee of the Red Cross, Amnesty International and other human rights groups say the recently
released images of abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib show a clear violation of international humanitarian law. The U.S. made a
pledge against torture when Congress ratified the UN Convention Against Torture in 1994 - but it was ratified with reservations that
exempted the CIA´s psychological torture method. So what were the results?

A new expose gives an account of the CIA´s secret efforts to develop new forms of torture spanning fifty years. It reveals how the
CIA perfected its methods, distributing them across the world from Vietnam to Iran to Central America, uncovering the roots of the
Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo torture scandals. The book is titled "A Question of Torture: CIA Interrogation, From the Cold War to the
War on Terror."

* Alfred McCoy, professor of history at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Author of "A Question of Torture: CIA
Interrogation, From the Cold War to the War on Terror" and also "The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade."

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AMY GOODMAN: A new expose gives an account of the C.I.A.´s secret efforts to develop new forms of torture, spanning half a century.
It reveals how the C.I.A. perfected its methods, distributing them across the world, from Vietnam to Iran to Central America,
uncovering the roots of the Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo torture scandals. The book is called A Question of Torture: C.I.A.
Interrogation, from the Cold War to the War on Terror, and we're joined by its author, Alfred McCoy, professor of history at the
University of Wisconsin, Madison. We welcome you to Democracy Now!

ALFRED McCOY: Thank you, Amy.

AMY GOODMAN: And glad to have you with us, especially in light of your history. I first learned of you with your first book The
Politics of Heroin: C.I.A. Complicity in the Global Drug Trade, for which you almost died. What happened then?

ALFRED McCOY: Oh, when I was researching that book in the mountains of Laos, hiking from village to village, interviewing Laotian
farmers about their opium harvest, and they were telling me that they took it down to the local helicopter pad where Air America
helicopters would land, Air America being a subsidiary of the C.I.A., and officers, tribal officers in the C.I.A.´s secret army
would buy the opium and fly it off to the C.I.A.´s secret compound, where it would be transformed into heroin and ultimately wound
up in South Vietnam. And while I was doing that research, hiking from village to village, interviewing farmers, we were ambushed by
a group of C.I.A. mercenaries. Fortunately, I had five militiamen from the village with me, and we shot our way out of there, but
they came quite close. Then later on, a C.I.A. operative threatened to murder my interpreter unless I stopped doing that research.
And then when --

AMY GOODMAN: How did you know they were C.I.A.?

ALFRED McCOY: Oh, look, in the mountains of Laos, there aren´t that many white guys, okay? I mean, the mercenaries? First of all,
the C.I.A. ran what was called the "Army Clandestine." They had a secret army, and those soldiers that ambushed us were soldiers in
the secret army. That, we knew.

AMY GOODMAN: The Laotian army?

ALFRED McCOY: The C.I.A.´s secret army.

AMY GOODMAN: The Laotian mercenaries?

ALFRED McCOY: Laotian mercenaries. That, everybody was clear about that. Nobody denied that. They said it was sort of an accident,
but, no, it was very clear that it was intentional. And ultimately, when the book was in press, the head of covert operations for
the C.I.A. called up my offices and my publisher in New York and suggested that the publisher suppress the book. They then got the
right to prior review -- the publisher compromised.

AMY GOODMAN: C.I.A. prior review.

ALFRED McCOY: Prior review of the manuscript, and they issued a 14-page critique. The publisher´s legal department, HarperCollins´s
legal department reviewed the critique, reviewed the manuscript, published the book unchanged, not a word changed.

AMY GOODMAN: And the contention of that book was that the C.I.A. was complicit in the global drug trade?

ALFRED McCOY: Right. In the context of conducting covert operations around the globe, particularly in the Asian opium zone, which
stretched from the Golden Triangle of Vietnam and Laos all the way to Afghanistan, that in those mountains far away from home, when
the C.I.A. had to mobilize tribal armies, the only allies were warlords, and when the C.I.A. formed an alliance with them, the
warlords used this alliance to become drug lords, and the C.I.A. didn't stop them from their involvement in the traffic.

AMY GOODMAN: Well, as a professor at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, you have not stopped looking at the C.I.A., and now
you've written this new book. It's called A Question of Torture: C.I.A. Interrogation, from the Cold War to the War on Terror. Give
us a history lesson.

ALFRED McCOY: Well, if you look at the most famous of photographs from Abu Ghraib, of the Iraqi standing on the box, arms extended
with a hood over his head and the fake electrical wires from his arms, okay? In that photograph you can see the entire 50-year
history of C.I.A. torture. It's very simple. He's hooded for sensory disorientation, and his arms are extended for self-inflicted
pain. And those are the two very simple fundamental C.I.A. techniques, developed at enormous cost.

From 1950 to 1962, the C.I.A. ran a massive research project, a veritable Manhattan Project of the mind, spending over $1 billion a
year to crack the code of human consciousness, from both mass persuasion and the use of coercion in individual interrogation. And
what they discovered -- they tried LSD, they tried mescaline, they tried all kinds of drugs, they tried electroshock, truth serum,
sodium pentathol. None of it worked. What worked was very simple behavioral findings, outsourced to our leading universities --
Harvard, Princeton, Yale and McGill -- and the first breakthrough came at McGill. And it's in the book. And here, you can see the --
this is the -- if you want show it, you can. That graphic really shows -- that's the seminal C.I.A. experiment done in Canada and
McGill University --

AMY GOODMAN: Describe it.

ALFRED McCOY: Oh, it's very simple. Dr. Donald O. Hebb of McGill University, a brilliant psychologist, had a contract from the
Canadian Defense Research Board, which was a partner with the C.I.A. in this research, and he found that he could induce a state of
psychosis in an individual within 48 hours. It didn't take electroshock, truth serum, beating or pain. All he did was had student
volunteers sit in a cubicle with goggles, gloves and headphones, earmuffs, so that they were cut off from their senses, and within
48 hours, denied sensory stimulation, they would suffer, first hallucinations, then ultimately breakdown.

And if you look at many of those photographs, what do they show? They show people with bags over their head. If you look at the
photographs of the Guantanamo detainees even today, they look exactly like those student volunteers in Dr. Hebb´s original cubicle.

Now, then the second major breakthrough that the C.I.A. had came here in New York City at Cornell University Medical Center, where
two eminent neurologists under contract from the C.I.A. studied Soviet K.G.B. torture techniques, and they found that the most
effective K.G.B. technique was self-inflicted pain. You simply make somebody stand for a day or two. And as they stand -- okay,
you're not beating them, they have no resentment -- you tell them, "You're doing this to yourself. Cooperate with us, and you can
sit down." And so, as they stand, what happens is the fluids flow down to the legs, the legs swell, lesions form, they erupt, they
suppurate, hallucinations start, the kidneys shut down.

Now, if you look at the other aspect of those photos, you´ll see that they're short-shackled -- okay? -- that they're long-shackled,
that they're made -- several of those photos you just showed, one of them with a man with a bag on his arm, his arms are straight in
front of him, people are standing with their arms extended, that's self-inflicted pain. And the combination of those two techniques
-- sensory disorientation and self-inflicted pain -- is the basis of the C.I.A.'s technique.

AMY GOODMAN: Who has pioneered this at the C.I.A.?

ALFRED McCOY: This was done by Technical Services Division. Most of the in-house research involved drugs and all of the LSD
experiments that we heard about for years, but ultimately they were a negative result. When you have any large massive research
project, you get -- you hit dead ends, you hit brick walls, you get negative results. All the drugs didn´t work. What did work was
this.

AMY GOODMAN: But when you talk about the `everyone knows the LSD experiments,´ I don't think everyone knows. In fact, I would
conjecture that more than 90% of Americans don't know that the C.I.A. was involved with LSD experiments on unwitting Americans. Can
you explain what they did?

ALFRED McCOY: Oh, sure. As a part of this comprehensive survey of human consciousness, the C.I.A. tried every possible techniques.
And one of the things that they -- at the time that this research started in the 1940s, a Swiss pharmaceutical company developed
LSD.

AMY GOODMAN: Which one?

ALFRED McCOY: I forget now. One of the major Swiss pharmaceutical companies. And Dr. Hoffman there was the man who developed it. The
C.I.A. bought substantial doses, and they conducted experiments. One of the most notorious experiments was that Dr. Sidney Gottlieb,
inside the agency, spiked the drinks of his co-workers, and one of those co-workers suffered a breakdown, Dr. Frank Olson, and he
either was -- I don't know whether he was pushed or jumped from a hotel here in New York City --

AMY GOODMAN: His son has never stopped pursuing this case?

ALFRED McCOY: Right, his son Eric Olson insists that his father was murdered by the C.I.A. Eric Olson believes that his father did a
tour of Europe, and he visited the ultimate Anglo-American test site, black site near Frankfurt, where they were doing lethal
experiments, fatal experiments, on double agents and suspected double agents, and that his father returned enormously upset by the
discovery that this research was actually killing people, and that, therefore, Eric Olson argues his father was killed by the
C.I.A., that he was pushed.

AMY GOODMAN: And didn't they do experiments in brothels in the San Francisco area?

ALFRED McCOY: They had two kind of party houses. They had one in the San Francisco Bay Area, another in New York City. And what they
did in San Francisco was they had prostitutes who go out to the streets, get individuals, bring them back, give them a drink, and
there would be a two-way mirror, and the C.I.A. would photograph these people.

AMY GOODMAN: So, the C.I.A. were running the brothel.

ALFRED McCOY: They were running the brothel. They were running all of these experiments, okay? They did that on Army soldiers
through the Army Chemical Warfare Division.

AMY GOODMAN: What did they do there?

ALFRED McCOY: Again, they gave them LSD and other drugs to see what effect they would have.

AMY GOODMAN: And what did the soldiers think they were getting?

ALFRED McCOY: They were just told they were participating in an experiment for national defense.

AMY GOODMAN: Prisoners?

ALFRED McCOY: No, these were --

AMY GOODMAN: Right, but also on prisoners, were there experiments?

ALFRED McCOY: There were some in prisons in the United States and also the Drug Treatment Center in Lexington, Kentucky. The Federal
Drug Treatment Center in Lexington, Kentucky, had this. All of this research, all this very elaborate research --

AMY GOODMAN: On unwitting Americans?

ALFRED McCOY: Unwitting Americans, produced nothing, okay? What they found time and time again is that electroshock didn't work, and
sodium pentathol didn't work, LSD certainly didn't work. You scramble the brain. You got unreliable information. But what did work
was the combination of these two rather boring, rather mundane behavioral techniques: sensory disorientation and self-inflicted
pain.

And in 1963, the C.I.A. codified these results in the so-called KUBARK Counterintelligence Manual. If you just type the word
"KUBARK" into Google, you will get the manual, an actual copy of it, on your computer screen, and you can read the techniques [Read
the report <http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB122/#kubark> . But if you do, read the footnotes, because that's where the
behavioral research is. Now, this produced a distinctively American form of torture, the first real revolution in the cruel science
of pain in centuries, psychological torture, and it's the one that's with us today, and it's proved to be a very resilient, quite
adaptable, and an enormously destructive paradigm.

Let´s make one thing clear. Americans refer to this often times in common parlance as "torture light." Psychological to torture,
people who are involved in treatment tell us it´s far more destructive, does far more lasting damage to the human psyche than does
physical torture. As Senator McCain said, himself, last year when he was debating his torture prohibition, faced with a choice
between being beaten and psychologically tortured, I'd rather be beaten. Okay? It does far more lasting damage. It is far crueler
than physical torture. This is something that we don't realize in this country.

Now, another thing we see is those photographs is the psychological techniques, but the initial research basically developed
techniques for attacking universal human sensory receptors: sight, sound, heat, cold, sense of time. That's why all of the detainees
describe being put in dark rooms, being subjected to strobe lights, loud music, okay? That´s sensory deprivation or sensory assault.
Okay, that was sort of the phase one of the C.I.A. research. But the paradigm has proved to be quite adaptable.

Now, one of the things that Donald Rumsfeld did, right at the start of the war of terror, in late 2002, he appointed General
Geoffrey Miller to be chief at Guantanamo, alright, because the previous commanders at Guantanamo were too soft on the detainees,
and General Miller turned Guantanamo into a de facto behavioral research laboratory, a kind of torture research laboratory. And
under General Miller at Guantanamo, they perfected the C.I.A. torture paradigm. They added two key techniques. They went beyond the
universal sensory receptors of the original research. They added to it an attack on cultural sensitivity, particularly Arab male
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Now, one of the things that Donald Rumsfeld did, right at the start of the war of terror, in late 2002, he appointed General
Geoffrey Miller to be chief at Guantanamo, alright, because the previous commanders at Guantanamo were too soft on the detainees,
and General Miller turned Guantanamo into a de facto behavioral research laboratory, a kind of torture research laboratory. And
under General Miller at Guantanamo, they perfected the C.I.A. torture paradigm. They added two key techniques. They went beyond the
universal sensory receptors of the original research. They added to it an attack on cultural sensitivity, particularly Arab male
sensitivity to issues of gender and sexual identity.

And then they went further still. Under General Miller, they created these things called "Biscuit" teams, behavioral science
consultation teams, and they actually had qualified military psychologists participating in the ongoing interrogation, and these
psychologists would identify individual phobias, like fear of dark or attachment to mother, and by the time we're done, by 2003,
under General Miller, Guantanamo had perfected the C.I.A. paradigm, and it had a three-fold total assault on the human psyche:
sensory receptors, self-inflicted pain, cultural sensitivity, and individual fears and phobia.

AMY GOODMAN: And then they sent General Miller to, quote, "Gitmo-ize" Abu Ghraib. Professor McCoy, we´re going to break for a
minute, and then we'll come back. Professor Alfred McCoy, professor of history at the University of Wisconsin, Madison. His latest
book is called A Question of Torture: C.I.A. Interrogation, from the Cold War to the War on Terror.

[break]

AMY GOODMAN: We are talking to Alfred McCoy, professor of history at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, author of a number of
books. The Politics of Heroin: C.I.A. Complicity in the Global Drug Trade almost had him killed. Afterwards, the C.I.A. tried to
have the book squelched, but ultimately it was published. Then A Question of Torture: C.I.A. Interrogation from the Cold War to the
War On Terror is his latest book, and we're talking about the history of torture. Continue with what you were saying, talking about
the Biscuit teams, the use of psychologists in Guantanamo, and then Geoffrey Miller, going from Guantanamo to, quote, "Gitmo-ize"
Abu Ghraib.

ALFRED McCOY: In mid-2003, when the Iraqi resistance erupted, the United States found it had no intelligence assets; it had no way
to contain the insurgency, and they -- the U.S. military was in a state of panic. And at that moment, they began sweeping across
Iraq, rounding up thousands of Iraqi suspects, putting many of them in Abu Ghraib prison. At that point, in late August 2003,
General Miller was sent from Guantanamo to Abu Ghraib, and he brought his techniques with him. He brought a CD, and he brought a
manual of his techniques. He gave them to the M.P. officers, the Military Intelligence officers and to General Ricardo Sanchez, the
U.S. Commander in Iraq.

In September of 2003, General Sanchez issued orders, detailed orders, for expanded interrogation techniques beyond those allowed in
the U.S. Army Field Manual 3452, and if you look at those techniques, what he's ordering, in essence, is a combination of
self-inflicted pain, stress positions and sensory disorientation, and if you look at the 1963 C.I.A. KUBARK Counterintelligence
Interrogation Manual, you look at the 1983 C.I.A. Interrogation Training Manual that they used in Honduras for training Honduran
officers in torture and interrogation, and then twenty years later, you look at General Sanchez's 2003 orders, there's a striking
continuity across this forty-year span, in both the general principles, this total assault on the existential platforms of human
identity and existence, okay? And the specific techniques, the way of achieving that, through the attack on these sensory receptors.


AMY GOODMAN: And Rumsfeld's comment, when asked if it was torture, when people were forced to stand hours on end, that he stands at
his desk?

ALFRED McCOY: Right, he wrote that in one of his memos. When he was asked to review the Guantanamo techniques in late 2003 or early
2004, he scribbled that marginal note and said, you know, "I stand at my desk eight hours a day." He has a designer standing desk.
"How come we're limiting these techniques of the stress position to just four hours?" So, in other words, that was a clear signal
from the Defense Secretary. Now, one of the problems beyond the details of these orders is torture is an extraordinarily dangerous
thing. There's an absolute ban on torture for a very good reason. Torture taps into the deepest recesses, unexplored recesses of
human consciousness, where creation and destruction coexist, where the infinite human capacity for kindness and infinite human
capacity for cruelty coexist, and it has a powerful perverse appeal, and once it starts, both the perpetrators and the powerful who
order them, let it spread, and it spreads out of control.

So, I think when the Bush administration gave those orders for, basically, techniques tantamount to torture at the start of the war
on terror, I think it was probably their intention that these be limited to top al-Qaeda suspects, but within months, we were
torturing hundreds of Afghanis at Bagram near Kabul, and a few months later in 2003, through these techniques, we were torturing
literally thousands of Iraqis. And you can see in those photos, beyond the details of the techniques that we've described, you can
see how that once it starts, it becomes this Dantesque hell, this kind of play palace of the darkest recesses of human
consciousness. That´s why it´s necessary to maintain an absolute prohibition on torture. There is no such thing as a little bit of
torture. The whole myth of scientific surgical torture, that torture advocates, academic advocates in this country came up with,
that's impossible. That cannot operate. It will inevitably spread.

AMY GOODMAN: So when, Professor McCoy, you started seeing these images, the first photos that came out at Abu Ghraib, the pictures
we showed of the, you know, hooded man, electrodes coming out of his fingers, standing on the box, your response?

ALFRED McCOY: Oh, I mean, the reason I wrote this book is when that photo came out in April 2004 on CBS news, at the Times, William
Safire, for example, writing in the New York Times said this was the work of creeps. Later on, Defense Secretary Schlesinger said
that this was just abuse by a few people on the night shift. There was another phrase: "Recycled hillbillies from Cumberland,
Maryland." In other words, this was the bad apple thesis. We could blame these bad apples. I looked at those photos, I didn't see
individual abuse. What I saw was two textbook trademark C.I.A. psychological interrogation techniques: self-inflicted pain and
sensory disorientation.

AMY GOODMAN: We read our first headline today. It was about Maher Arar and the case - the judge has thrown out against him, the
Canadian-Syrian man who was sent back to Syria -- the U.S. government calls it "extraordinary rendition," and he was kept in an
underground "grave-like" cell, he described, very small. He was held for almost a year. As you showed, and I looked at the book, the
pictures of the places where prisoners are kept, and in speaking to Maher, he´s described this level of sensory deprivation. What
about the shape and the size and the coffin-like nature of these rooms?

ALFRED McCOY: The details are often left to the individual interrogators, but the manuals basically describe how you control the
process, you control the environment right from the start when you pick somebody up. So, for example, often times we see in Iraq of
people when they're arrested, their arms are behind their back. They're made to kneel in very uncomfortable positions, and they're
hooded right away. That's one of the things they always specify is the time and conditions of arrest. You begin to break them down.
You create this artificial environment of control, and then the techniques always vary. It can be extreme darkness or it can be
extreme light; it can be absence of sound or a bombardment of sound.

AMY GOODMAN: And that bombardment of sound is often joked about. `Oh, we played Britney Spears really loud,´ or whatever it is. I
don't know if it was her. But that's become a joke when soldiers play loud music.

ALFRED McCOY: Well, though, actually, that's one of the problems of talking about this topic in the United States, is that we regard
all of this panoply of psychological techniques as "torture light," as somehow not really torture. Okay? And we're the only country
in the world that does that. The U.N. convention bars - defines torture as the infliction of severe psychological or physical pain.
The U.N. convention which bans torture in 1984 gives equal weight to psychological and physical techniques. We alone as a society
somehow exempt all of these psychological techniques. That dates back, of course, to the way we ratified the convention in the first
place.

Back in the early 1990s, when the United States was emerging from the Cold War, and we began this process of, if you will, disarming
ourselves and getting beyond all of these techniques, trying to sort of bring ourselves in line with rest of the international
community, when we sent that -- when President Clinton sent the U.N. Anti-Torture Convention to the U.S. Congress for ratification
in 1994, he included four detailed paragraphs of reservation that had, in fact, been drafted by the Reagan administration, and he
adopted them without so much as changing a semicolon. And when you read those detailed paragraphs of reservation, what you realize
is this, is that the United States Congress ratified the treaty, but basically we outlawed only physical torture. Those photographs
of reservation are carefully written to avoid one word in the 26 printed pages of the U.N. convention. That word is "mental."
Basically, we exempted psychological torture.

Now, another problem for the United States, as well, was when the U.S. Army re-wrote the Army Field Manual in 1992, the same period,
while, although let´s say the civil authorities were sort of skirting the law by exempting psychological techniques, the U.S. Army
re-wrote their field manual with the intention of strictly observing the letter and the spirit of the U.N. Anti-Torture Convention
and other similar treaties. So what happened is that when the Defense Department gave orders for extreme techniques, when General
Sanchez gave orders for his techniques beyond the Army Field Manual, what that meant is when the soldiers were actually
investigated, they had committed crimes under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. They would be prosecuted, and they´re all being
sent to jail.

AMY GOODMAN: Professor McCoy, you wrote a piece, "Why the McCain Torture Ban Won't Work: The Bush Legacy of Legalized Torture."

ALFRED McCOY: Right. Most Americans think that it's over, that in last year, December 2005, the U.S. Congress passed the Detainee
Treatment Act 2005, which in the language of Senator McCain, who was the original author of that amendment to the defense
appropriation, the author of that act, it bars all inhumane or cruel treatment, and most people think that´s it, that it´s over,
okay? Actually, what has happened is the Bush administration fought that amendment tooth and nail; they fought it with loopholes.
Vice President Cheney went to Senator McCain and asked for a specific exemption for the C.I.A. McCain refused. The National Security
Advisor went to McCain and asked for certain kinds of exemptions for the C.I.A. He refused.

So then they started amending it. Basically what happened is, through the process, they introduced loopholes. Look, at the start of
the war on terror, the Bush administration ordered torture. President Bush said right on September 11, 2001, when he addressed the
nation, "I don't care what the international lawyers say. We´re going to kick some ass." Those were his words, and then it was up to
his legal advisors in the White House and the Justice Department to translate his otherwise unlawful orders into legal directives,
and they did it by crafting three very controversial legal principles. One, that the President, as Commander-in-Chief, could
override laws and treaties. Two, that there was a possible defense for C.I.A. interrogators who engage in torture, and the defenses
were of two kinds. First of all, they played around with the word "severe," that torture is the infliction of severe pain. That's
when Jay Bybee, who was Assistant Attorney General, wrote that memo in which he said, "´severe´ means equivalent to organ failure,"
in other words, right up to the point of death. The other thing was that they came up with the idea of intentionality. If a C.I.A.
interrogator tortured, but the aim was information, not pain, then he could say that he was not guilty. The third principle, which
was crafted by John Yoo, was Guantanamo is not part of the United States; it is exempt from the writ of U.S. courts. Now, in the
process of ratifying - sorry, passing the McCain torture - the torture prohibition, McCain´s ban on inhumane treatment, the White
House has cleverly twisted the legislation to re-establish these three key principles. In his signing statement on December 30,
President Bush said --

AMY GOODMAN: This was the statement that he signed as he signed the McCain so-called ban on torture?

ALFRED McCOY: Right, he emailed it at 8:00 at night from his ranch in Crawford on December 30th, that he was signing this
legislation into law. He said, "I reserve the right, as Commander-in-Chief and as head of the unitary executive, to do what I need
to do to defend America." Okay, that was the first thing. The next thing that happened is that McCain, as a compromise, inserted
into the legislation a provision that if a C.I.A. operative engages in inhumane treatment or torture but believes that he or she was
following a lawful order, then that's a defense. So they got the second principle, defense for C.I.A. torturers. The third principle
was - is that the White House had Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina amend McCain´s amendment by inserting language into it,
saying that for the purposes of this act, the U.S. Navy base at Guantanamo Bay is not on U.S. territory, and last month --

AMY GOODMAN: Ten seconds.

ALFRED McCOY: So, and then in the last month, the Bush administration has gone to federal courts and said, "Drop all of your habeas
corpus suits from Guantanamo." There are 160 of them. They've gone to the Supreme Court and said, "Drop your Guantanamo case." They
have, in fact, used that law to quash legal oversight of their actions.

AMY GOODMAN: We have to leave it there. I want to thank you very much, Professor Al McCoy, for speaking with us, professor of
history at University of Wisconsin, Madison, his book A Question of Torture: C.I.A. Interrogation, from the Cold War to the War On
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John Stockwell is a 13-year veteran of the CIA spills the beans


INTRODUCTION

John Stockwell is a 13-year veteran of the CIA and a former U.S. Marine Corps major. He was hired by the CIA in 1964, spent six
years working for the CIA in Africa, and was later transferred to Vietnam. In 1973 he received the CIA's Medal of Merit, the
Agency's second-highest award.
In 1975, Stockwell was promoted to the CIA's Chief of Station and National Security Council coordinator, managing covert activities
during the first years of Angola's bloody civil war. After two years he resigned, determined to reveal the truth about the agency's
role in the Third World.

Since that time, he has worked tirelessly to expose the criminal activities of the CIA. He is the author of In Search of Enemies, an
exposé of the CIA's covert action in Angola.

Stockwell is a founding member of Peaceways and ARDIS (the Association for Responsible Dissent), an organization of former CIA and
Government officials who are openly critical of the CIA's activities. His latest book is entitled The Praetorian Guard: The U.S.
Role in the New World Order.

The American Public is evidently in dire need of the truth, for when the plutocracy feeds us sweet lies instead of the bitter truth
that would evoke remedial action by the People, then we are in peril of sinking inextricably into despotism.

JOHN STOCKWELL: Thank you from the bottom of my heart for inviting me back. This is one of my favorite places in the nation. My
growth, as I have come out of the CIA quite a few years ago now and learned to speak, and learned confidence - some of my early
appearances were right here, in fact. And the response that I got, and the support that I got helped me to grow as I continued to
travel and lecture and debate and read and read and read, and write things, some of them successfully published.

We've got a book coming out right now called The Praetorian Guard: The U.S. Role in the New World Order. And it's in the trucks
across the nation right now. It'll be in the bookstores, they say, in about three weeks. That's apparently how long it takes.

I want to commend you for your energy and your interest in the world. And I apologize for having my back to you. I'm just glad you
could get in. We just turned away about 500 people. And that's a tragedy, when communication is so important on such important
issues. And so, of course, I went out to tell them that if anyone wants to organize it, and if the energy is still there, I'll come
back in three days or two weeks, or whatever is viable.

What's so important about your being here, and this kind of interest is the basic principle that I realized a long time ago and that
many of you realized long before I did, is that we are, in fact, programmable creatures. We can be taught from childhood.

And we are taught, in this country, in such a way that we're conditioned - that we'll respond when someone else reaches inside our
breast to poke buttons and make us march off to war and kill people, or cheer when others go off to kill people. And the only way to
defend yourself and your loved ones against that is to program yourself. And you do that by reading books and by sharing
conversations with serious people and by lectures and events like this one, and all the other ones that you've been doing. And
certainly, this great engine of information and energy [in this audience] is just awesome.
Now what we're going to talk about here tonight is what I call "The Good War Number Two." I'm sure you remember Studs Terkel's book,
THE GOOD WAR, about World War II, where the rationales were so solid that the nation was pretty well behind it and even the
Communist party (and [though] Karl Marx had challenged to boycott, and the people had challenged to boycott the big capitalist war)
.... even the Communist party got behind it, as well. Everybody got behind it, just about, except for a very few hard-core
pacifists. And [back then too it was called] "the New World Order." This [now] is being fought in the name of "the New World Order",
George Bush being the chief thereof.

First, before I get into this .... and I'm going to have to move pretty fast tonight because the subject is dense: what we want to
cover. I will plow through it, and then we'll get into questions. And again, feel free - if you're shy or something - to write down
the question. But it's more fun if we have the energy of people standing up and making short statements so that others can speak, as
well: questioning, challenging. We'll have the energy going back and forth between us.

But first, how many people have read ..... The last time I was here, I asked you to ..... How many people actually read Howard
Zinn's bookA People's History of the United States? ..... That's better! Everybody else: Tomorrow, call in sick. Don't go to class.
Read this book! Quite simply, you will never understand the U.S. System as completely until you read it. And once you read it, you
will be able to understand what's happening, broadly, for the rest of your life. It's extremely well-written, extremely well-
documented, tremendously moving, with quotes on every page: every phase of our history, as viewed, not from the interests of the
country and big business - as our high school textbooks are and as our college textbooks are - but from the viewpoint of the people
who died in the wars, who fought in the wars, who paid for the wars, and who profited from the wars, of course.

This war we're going to talk about tonight is called the "Persian Gulf War" - the "SuperBowl War" - the "Made-for-Television War" -
the "Pentagon-Edited War" - the "Women-Have-a-Right-to-Kill,-Die- and-Be-Captured-Too War" - "the "Censored War" - the "Saddam
Hussein-is-So-Evil-We-Have-to-Do-It War" - and the "I've-Got-to-Support-Our-Troops-Right-or-Wrong War".
Now this thing was thoroughly prepared for six months, overtly, by the United States Government, the Pentagon, and the Media - CNN
[Cable News Network] getting into it many weeks ago with heavy coverage. We covered it so thoroughly that on January 14th ..... and
I've been writing screenplays and things, trying to make a living, with CNN on ..... On the 14th, waiting for the kick-off, they had
an Emory University professor on who gave us advice on how to play Wall Street to profit from the war before it happened. His advice
is very simple - in case you're sitting on a bundle of money and you don't want to give it to the Christic Institute or to me - He
said: "Jump now." That was on the 14th. He said: "Don't wait a few days because then, other people will be jumping. Go in right
now!" And then, he said: "The U.S. dollar will go up temporarily, so buy Japanese yen. Wait `til it goes up, then buy Japanese yen
because by the end of the year the dollar will be back down and the yen will have doubled in value again and you can make a bundle
on that.

Every obscene coverage that we could possibly do!

And then the whole world waited, on the 15th and 16th, for the kickoff of this great modern war. Now, some people waited, or had
been waiting, longer than others. I found myself in the position (albeit a country boy from Texas who grew up in Africa; but you
know) reading books and having seen a little bit of this stuff from the National Security Council level, I had been able to predict,
nine months ahead of time, that the U.S. would invade Panama. And this was not a shot in the dark. This was an analysis of the
United States and George Bush - for whom I worked, at the end of the "Angola Secret War", where I was the task force commander for a
subcommittee of the National Security Council, and he was the CIA Director responsible for fending off the Congress.

Let me hasten to say that this is a very nice man to be around. He's considerate. He's personable. He has high positive energy. If
your child gets sick, even if you're way down on his staff, you'll get a postcard in the mail very promptly, saying:

"Very sorry about Johnny ..."

shaking hands with people and remembering their names; a considerate, decent person at the human level. And then, of course, he has
rationales for what he does, and we're going to be talking about these things. But I gave speeches at American University in
November, and then at the House of Commons in England in early December.

Again, C-SPAN managed to get a film of this, a video, and they played it on national television eight times when the invasion
occurred, because in those speeches, I had predicted the invasion and analyzed why. Then, about a year ago, I predicted this war.
And again, this was not a shot in the dark. This was a cold, sober, careful analysis of the United States: where it was, and why it
would need a war; and of George Bush: and why he would take the nation into war.

Now that's what I want to go through tonight, if I possibly can, is to give you all the essential elements and understanding of how
I was able to make those predictions, so that you will be able to predict the next war. Because there certainly will be another one
after this one, unless we can intervene and break the cycles, and make a profound change in the United States System. My point is
that we know how these things work. It isn't magic. It isn't classified. It isn't secret. Since the Vietnam War, the Establishment -
the Military Establishment, as I call it - Eisenhower called it the Military-Industrial Complex - the Military Establishment, which
is the very powerful central engine in our society, in our permanent War Complex, has been working to erase the stigma of the
Vietnam War and has been telling us that it was doing that.

President Reagan came into office saying that he would teach the nation how to fight war again, to make us stand tall - and then, of
course, pouring huge resources into the Military, and glamorizing the Military, bombing Libya, invading Grenada, and [waging]
low-intensity warfare against Nicaragua, but rehearsing for the invasion of Nicaragua.

Interestingly enough, they were prohibited by the Military, by the Pentagon, by the Defense Department, from invading Nicaragua,
actually, because the [American] People were solidly against it. And so, the Secretary of Defense, in public speeches, said: "No,
not with my Defense Department, unless you can persuade the People to support it." They couldn't make their sale, and we were spared
the horror of our doing this thing on Nicaragua.

Now at the same time, through these years, people like Harry Summers, a colonel, teaching at the War College, writing his book on
strategy, analyzing the Vietnam War for the failures of the Vietnam War, not apologetic, not that it was a wrong war. Not at all! He
was saying that what we'd done wrong was we had failed to orchestrate the war and to organize and motivate the American People to
support it; and that it went on too long, and we didn't win, and we didn't go in decisively enough with a major military strike. The
Military has always maintained that if they could have gone in, all out, they would have won in Vietnam very efficiently, and that
they were hamstrung by the politicians, and were prevented from fighting a good war. Dean Rusk, when he came out of office and
retired, he said that the next war cannot be fought in the eye of the television camera with the Public second-guessing the generals
as they're making decisions on the battlefields.

Now, you'll notice the interesting thing about that is, One: that he was wrong. He didn't understand that they could so captivate
the nation that they could fight the war in the eye of the television camera. But it was a censored television camera, with the
media playing along in the censorship. But perhaps the most significant thing about his statement was the fact that he was
absolutely, blithely confident that there would BE another war.

Most of us were presuming that, because of the trauma of the Vietnam War, we had learned that these things are not cool, that they
don't work, that we should never do them again. They maintained - the Military - that if the United States had gone in massively in
Vietnam, with nukes, if they had to, and won in a few months time, the American People would have supported it, and there would have
been no trauma. General Gavlett[sp], in the South Command in Panama, when they were trying to invade Nicaragua, he was saying: "The
American People love a good bash, but you've got to get it over with in about six weeks time or it'll go sour on you. You can't
afford to have the war still going on while the body bags start coming home."

Now since then, as part of this preparation for this war, this enormously successful preparation for this war - leading the nation
into war and restoring the Military Complex - they've been preparing for greater control of our society. Now this is where it gets a
little creepy:

They've been laying down a series of laws. I don't have time in the lecture to go through them, but as a matter of fact, I do list
all of them that I was aware of in one chapter of this book that's coming out now [The Praetorian Guard: The U.S. Role in the New
World Order.] - the National Security laws, which work to give them control of the Press, control of passports; they can stop Jane
Fondas and Seymour Hershes from traveling and reporting from places like Hanoi, or My Lai scandals, and such.

You've got to understand that the United States is and has always been a war-loving nation, a warring nation. But one with a smile.
We've learned how to put a twist on it so we can feel good about doing what other nations have done that we consider to be evil.

This is part of my analysis. And the CIA, in our training ..... when we were novices, people from the analytical side came to talk
to us and they said:
"If you're trying to figure out what a nation is going to do, you don't take the circumstances on the table in front of you and say,
the logical thing is that they'll do this. What you do is you look at the history of the country, its cycles of war or whatever. If
it's a country that's gone to war frequently in its past, you expect it to go to war again. If it's a country that never goes to
war, you expect it to find a peaceful solution."

And with that analysis, about ten years ago (although most of my growth, intellectually, has been since then) I began to just sit
down and doodle how many wars the United States has been into. And I noticed there are a whole bunch of them. We've done a lot of
this thing. A very warring nation! [War is] very deep in our history. Fifteen wars, as I count them. And this gets semantical. They
didn't call Korea a war. They tried not to call Vietnam a war. But [the United States'] major military actions: I count about
fifteen, give or take two, if you want to call them minor, but nevertheless, let's say fifteen wars. We've spent fifty years or so
at war. We've had two hundred-plus military actions, about once a year, in which we put our troops into other countries to force
them to our will. The longest period between wars was between World War I and World War II. The second longest period was between
the Vietnam War and the Persian Gulf War.

Now, during the first period, the longest period, we put 12,000 troops with an Allied Force to invade Russia and we put our Marines
repeatedly into Latin and Central American countries, again, to force them to our will. And then, of course, we've had low-intensity
conflicts, almost uncountable - hundreds and hundreds of them, in between, for example, Vietnam and the Persian Gulf War.

As you begin to read these things (and Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States is extremely good on following this
kind of detail to really give you the punch lines of how the leadership orchestrated the nation into other wars) in each war there
was a trigger. If you look at page 290 of that book, [Pres.] Harry Truman wrote a friend, quote:

"In strict confidence, I should welcome almost any war, for I think the country needs one."

You have the Battleship Maine ....

[JD: If the USS Maine was sunk on the orders of powerful people in the U.S. Government, it's not as glaring as the fact that they
used the sinking as their excuse for the war that they desired.]

You have the battleship Maine, sunk under mysterious conditions in the Spanish-Cuban-American War. And the Press got into it
[creating war hysteria], and we roared down there - Teddy Roosevelt and all that.
The Lusitania in World War I ....

[JD: The passenger ship Lusitania was sunk by a German U-boat. But why was it sent into hostile waters? Because men of money and
power dearly desired to embroil the United States in a most profitable war by using that very effective tool: emotion, provoking
outrage that impels commonfolk of decency to go into combat against "the huns" who drowned seven hundred terrified men, women and
children.]

In 1915, Kate Richards O'Hara ... Remember, she said:

"The women of the United States are nothing but brood sows, producing sons to be put into the Army, to be turned into fertilizer."

And she was sentenced to five years in jail for anti-war talk. And then there was Pearl Harbor, which set off "the Good War," with
the rationale so strong. And NOW, we have the absolute historical proof that our leadership DID know where the Japanese fleet was,
where it was headed, and what its plans were - that it was going to sink our fleet in Pearl Harbor. And they did not warn the
admiral to get the ships out to sea. They let the ships be sunk and [made] two thousand three hundred soldiers and sailors die so
that it would galvanize the nation into the war that they wanted to go into.

And then you have, of course, the Gulf of Tonkin Incident in [the instigation of] the Vietnam War.

[JD: President Lyndon Johnson lied to the Congress, and he admitted privately that he lied in his declaration that North Vietnamese
gunboats had fired upon the USS Maddox in the Tonkin Gulf. Johnson's bosses were trying to provoke an attack that would be the
justification for goading the Congress into granting the president the authorization to initiate this protracted and highly
lucrative war with North Vietnam. But the North Vietnamese wouldn't bite. So Johnson invented the attack. In point-of-fact, the USS
Maddox was never fired upon at all.]

In the Mexican War (we relate to that in Texas, and I'm sure you do here because it's very much a part of your heritage), they
offered two dollars-a-head to every soldier who would enlist. They didn't get enough takers, so they offered a hundred acres of land
to anyone who would be a veteran of that war. They still didn't get enough takers, so [future President] Zachary Taylor was sent
down to parade up and down the border - the disputed border - until the Mexicans fired on him. And the headlines read:

~~~~~ "MEXICANS KILLING OUR BOYS IN TEXAS" ~~~~~



And the nation rose up, and we fought the war, and we took away from Mexico: Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California and part of
Colorado.
And then, of course, you have the Persian Gulf War: Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait. This bald aggression, this very evil thing,
this very evil man, who is the incarnation of Hitler himself, gave George Bush the vehicle he needed for this war that I had
predicted that he was shopping around for.
We'll get into that in more detail in just a minute, but first you have to proceed to understand our system and how the conditioning
works in a little bit more detail.

The conditioning to war in this country begins at the age of two, when we put our children in front of the one-eyed baby-sitter, and
we turn it on and we go wash dishes or sweep the floor or clean the car - and we teach them. Actually, little kids (I don't know if
you've done this recently), they're bored with TV at first. You have to get them hooked on it. We teach them, actually, to watch
television. And very quickly they learn. And then they get to where they're watching 10 to 15 to 20 shows a day, all of them the
same show, the same story with different characters. I call it the "American Syndrome." I'm talking about ..... We're raising a
little boy who's 12 now. And he's heard my lectures. And I have to sit down and watch some of his TV with him so I can understand.
You know, he says, "Daddy, c'mere." So, we've watched, over recent years: HE-MAN, SHEENA, THE THUNDERCATS, SCOOBY-DOO, and now it's
the NINJA TURTLES, and THE RAIDERS - I forget. Always the same plot: Nice little people - attractive, usually light-skinned or
light- complected, who are put upon by ugly, dark, evil forces like Skeletor. And they always say: "Please be nice. We don't want
trouble." And the evil forces always insist. And at the last minute they leap around and miraculously defeat the evil forces. Cut!
Commercial! And we plunge back into the same story with other characters. The "American Syndrome" of the nice people who loathe war,
who wouldn't go to war, ever, except it's drummed into Americans from the age of two, that we're a nice, peace-loving nation, the
good guys of the World who very reluctantly go to war when evil forces force it upon us.
Then you get into the stuff that we've treated ourselves to in the eighties during this cycle of war-mongering: RAMBO, COMMANDO, RED
DAWN, ROCKY series, UNDER SIEGE, DELTA FORCE, AMERIKA, MISSING IN ACTION, TOP GUN, HEARTBREAK RIDGE, DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR, PLATOON,
HAMBURGER HILL, TOUR OF DUTY, CHINA BEACH, and the list is going on and on and on with the violent war movies.

Now once again, to analyze one of these, to give you ..... How many people saw the movie, RED DAWN? Now this is fun. How many
people, when you saw it, knew that this was intended to be a war propaganda movie? The producer went around the nation, going on
television, saying: "I wanted to make a movie that would make people feel positive about war." So this is an up-front, propaganda
commercial, propaganda movie.

So, we can analyze it to see: How do they motivate us to war when they want to make such a movie. And so, you take the plot. It's
science fiction. They have a scenario set up - which you buy into in the first minute - that's impossible, unreal. There's a force
of Russians, Cubans and Nicaraguans that has invaded the United States and gotten all the way to the Rocky Mountains, and blown off
our nuclear weapons. Our Army doesn't exist.

They're just there. And the people are struggling against them. AMERIKA, of course, had the same plot, a little bit. Now, so you've
asked: "Why did they pick Russia, Cuba, and Nicaragua?" It had to be Russia, of course, but a better plot would have been Russia,
Canada and Mexico, or at least Russia, Canada and Cuba, because you know they could be coming across this vast border with Canada
and pinning us up against Cuba and you could, you know, almost get into that as science fiction.

So why Nicaragua?

They [the U.S. Government] had decided to fight a [real] war in Nicaragua. So, it was essential that they begin to condition people
to see Nicaragua as an enemy who would invade us if they could. This is science fiction. Nicaragua has never indicated any desire
whatsoever to invade or hurt the United States. So this force gets all the way to the Rocky Mountains where they're eventually
stopped by the high school football team, with the cheerleaders helping out, drinking deer's blood in the mountains.

Now see. This is off base. The eighties was the decade of the middle-aged woman. You know: DALLAS, DYNASTY, THE GOLDEN GIRLS,
MURDER, SHE WROTE - Lynda Evans working out. Joan Collins is older than me, and she's a sex symbol, and this is wonderful.

So, they should have made a movie, a modern war movie, where they get to the Rocky Mountains and they're stopped by high school
football teachers. But they didn't do that. And so you ask: Why? And the answer is obvious.

Because, one: They're not going to get US, the 50-year-olds, to fight any of their wars. Because we've seen wars of the past, and
the cynicism. And with some exceptions, there are too many of us who are aware of the cynicism and wouldn't do it.

In addition to which, societies have always reached out and grabbed the 18-year-olds. In some societies, it's the 15-year-olds whose
minds are empty, their bodies are healthy and they have a high level of testosterone and adventure and excitement and romanticism
about war, which they have been taught to feel.

And so, they're ripe and ready, programmed to be sent into war. And this movie, in fact, was shown to National Guard units as they
were going down to Honduras to rehearse the invasion of Nicaragua. And it was shown at the Air Force Academy. It's a basic military
movie that they're showing in boot camp to get people motivated into war.

Then you get into the TV ads that we've been saturated with over the last ten to fifteen years: "Join the Army. Be all that you can
be." And you have these tanks jumping ditches and these helicopters that go 150 miles an hour, and people playing with computers,
and lasers, and night vision, and television-radar-guided missiles. And I watch these things - as an old soldier who's really turned
off by war. And I'm sitting up and saying: "Wow! That would be fun, you know, to get in one of those tanks." I mean, the tanks we
had back then would jump a very small ditch and crash and break down. And now, they jump bigger ditches at 60 miles an hour - and
crash and break down.

But the point is that these things are tremendously motivating, as they're intended to be. But how many people remember seeing the
ad on television in which they showed the young men and women soldiers with their legs blown off at their knees, and their
intestines wrapped around their necks? How many people saw that one? Didn't exist, did it? See, that's what war is really all about!


We have a whole generation of people over there now - a lot of them didn't want to go to war. They wanted to enjoy all the perks and
fun, and join the Army and "be all they can be." And they weren't shown what war was really about. And now (gulp, swallow), they're
over there right now, tonight, getting ready to kill people. And they'll carry the karma of the dead people with them for the rest
of their lives - or be killed. And that's pretty heavy stuff.

Now, there's another fascinating ad, by the way. Did anyone see the ad that was massively on television that said: "War is bad. Work
for peace. Resist the war incentives and the war instincts and the war motives?" How many people saw that one? Played on television
six times a day for ten straight years - [paid] with U.S. tax dollars.

Nobody? Has anybody EVER seen an ad run by our Government, with our tax dollars, advocating peace? Hasn't happened! And yet,
HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of DOLLARS spent on these ads, with our tax dollars, to motivate us to war.

Then there's the one about the young man who's coming home on leave on the train. I don't know who rides trains anymore, but, you
know. And he is met by his younger brother, and he says: "You know, Dad never did understand why I had to join the Army." How many
people have seen this one? And then they're in the car, and he is saying: "Do you think Dad will ever forgive me?"

And then they go into the house, and Dad is standing there smoking a pipe, and he turns and he melts and he hugs his son, and all is
forgiven. Now they played that thing for ten straight years, SuperBowl, prime time, all the sports events, [knowing] that the men,
especially young men, would be watching. Why would they spend hundreds of millions of dollars altogether on that particular ad with
that theme? You see, the problem is that because of the Korean War and its cynicism, and the Vietnam War and its cynicism, there
were too many dads who were telling their sons: "Don't join the Army!"

And so, they had to float the message out to the society that in this society it's okay to defy your father's wisdom and join the
Army. And if you do, he'll forgive you, and hug you, and embrace you, and respect you, and love you afterwards, anyway.

Now, since the "Good War One," World War II, we've had the CIA's Secret Wars. We've had two serious wars: Korea and Vietnam. But
we've had the CIA running its low-intensity conflicts, its secret wars around the Globe. A lot of them. I'll mention that, kind of
in passing, tonight because we have so much ground to cover.

We've been destabilizing target governments in every corner of the Globe. We set up a system of governing by oligarchies - proxy
government working through oligarchies in these countries who are permitted to become fabulously rich. This is the case in the
Persian Gulf, the oil emirates who have 0.5 percent of their population of billionaires and millionaires, and the rest of the people
share less or none at all of the country's wealth.

In Latin America, Central America, this same system is working. If the people don't like it, you organize the police into death
squads, as we've done in many countries, including, conspicuously, El Salvador, and you kill enough of them that they are
emasculated. They can't do anything about it. They are crippled. They are repressed, suppressed and oppressed, and you can get by
with this system of milking the countries to your will and to your way.

The [Sen. Frank] Church Committee of 1975 ..... Again this is not a lecture about the Secret Wars of the CIA. That's a separate
lecture. I could give it again, but it takes a full hour in its own right. But you must know how the CIA weaves into this war
complex - this war machinery of ours. The Church Committee of 1975 investigated CIA "actions" and found that we had run - if you
extrapolate the figures - about thirteen thousand-plus [covert operations] since we've had the CIA - since World War II.

Now, a lot of these are fairly benign, and some of them fairly trivial. But a lot of them are VERY violent, and some of them lead
into wars.

A long destabilization/propaganda campaign led us into the Korean War, and another one led us into the Vietnam War. Now, scholars,
including myself, reading these things - and we have so many of them in the public record that it's obviously very difficult to know
exactly how many people died in Vietnam or in Korea or in Nicaragua or in the Congo - but still, working with conservative figures
we come up with a minimum figure of SIX MILLION PEOPLE killed in the Secret Wars of the CIA through its destabilizations over these
past forty years:

One million people killed in the Korean War;
Two million people killed in Vietnam;
One to two million people killed in Cambodia;
Eight hundred thousand people killed in Indonesia;
Fifty thousand people killed in Angola.

Now that began with the war that I organized as Commander of the Angola Task Force, working for a subcommittee of the National
Security Council in Washington in 1975 and 1976. Fifty thousand is the number that the Sandinistas and The New York Times pretty
much agreed on were killed and wounded in Nicaragua in the ONE BILLION DOLLAR Contra destabilization in that country that we
effected in the 1980s.

Now, these six million [people killed from] CIA activities, are all part of the Cold War in which probably about TWENTY MILLION
PEOPLE were killed. And that makes it the second or third bloodiest war in all of human history, which is saying a lot. I call it
also the Third World War. You could call it the Forty Years War of the twentieth century.

I call it the "Third World" War because when you analyze these things and read through them in the public record, which, again, is
massively documented .... And by the way, the last third of this book [The Praetorian Guard] is a bibliography of the best 120 books
on the subject, organized to make it easy for you to access each one with a mini-review, so you can decide which book will be most
interesting and useful to you, and what this theme is all about.

[When you analyze these crimes] you find that we do not do these massive bloody things against the Soviet Union. Torture and death
squads we do not run in England or Canada or Belgium or Sweden or Switzerland. They are, virtually all of them, done against
countries of the Third World where the governments of those countries are not strong enough to prohibit us, to prevent us from
brutalizing their people. The six million people killed are people of the Third World: people of the Mitumba Mountains of the Congo,
and the jungles of Southeast Asia, and the hills of Nicaragua. And now, of course, the Middle Eastern deserts, in a new wrinkle on
this system.

The casualties in Nicaragua - fifty thousand people - they were not Russians. They were not Cubans. They were not even mostly
Sandinistas. They were mostly rag-poor peasants, including a high percentage of women and children. Communists? They were mostly
ROMAN CATHOLICS! Enemies of the United States? Nah. We had thousands of Witnesses [for Peace] who went down to live with them - to
see. And they invariably came back and told us that the Nicaraguan People are the warmest people on the face of the Earth. They
couldn't understand [why], but the Nicaraguans love the United States - the people from the United States; and that these people had
trouble understanding why our Government would want to hire an army to send down there to brutalize them: to haul them out of their
homes, and rape them, and slash off their breasts, and cut off their testicles while their children were forced to watch, which is
what the Contra program did.

Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of documented cases.

This is where I came up, then, in writing about the Angola War, with my thesis, the title of my first book: In Search of Enemies. We
were taking this war in Angola to people who did not want to be our enemies - as we did in Vietnam - as we did in Cuba and other
places. The point of the CIA's activities is they .....ten thousand, thirteen thousand operations - three thousand major, gory,
bloody operations, killing six million people .... they [the CIA] have made the world unstable.

The six million people each leave behind an average of perhaps five loved ones who are traumatically conditioned to violence, who
will go on continuing violence and keeping the world unstable and violent for the rest of their lives. And in an unstable world
that's brimming and teeming with violence, you can spend trillions of dollars on the arms that you could not spend if the world
were, in fact, peaceful.

Now again, I'm moving pretty fast. In other lectures I go into that in considerable detail. But getting into the 1980s, we had a
constant conditioning, militarizing, and destabilizing under the Reagan Revolution. We spent TWO-AND-A-HALF TRILLION DOLLARS,
according to our Government, on the largest military buildup in any peacetime period in history; perhaps, arguably, the largest
military buildup in all of history.

Meanwhile, Ronald Reagan, the great orator, was selling this program to the American People by focusing our paranoid attention on
Nicaragua. He spent more time talking about his Contra progam in Nicaragua than any other aspect of his presidency. He told us that
America is feeling great again. He railed at the "Evil Empire" [the Soviet Union]. He said there's a Russian base in Nicaragua - in
our own back yard. He said the Soviets are flying airplanes in this hemisphere for the first time in all of history. Of course, that
wasn't true.

Aeroflot has been flying out since World War II. But this is rhetoric! He hammered away. And the truth had nothing whatsoever to do
with it. He said it was a two-day drive from Managua, Nicaragua to Arlington, Texas. He said it was closer from Managua to Houston
than it was from Houston to Maine. He said it was a two-hour flight from Managua to San Diego. You could almost see the
fighter-bombers sizzling up there to bomb San Diego.

He said there will be a million communists coming up across our borders from the south. [Presidential aide] Ollie North volunteered,
according to Pat Buchanan, to be put in command of the forces that would fight off the million communists as they came up from
Central America through Mexico to invade this country.

Meanwhile, in 1988, President Bush, George Bush, my old boss, inherited the presidency. He won the election. He also inherited big
political problems and economic problems because he had been vice-president under Ronald Reagan. And he inherited a four-and-a- half
trillion dollar debt. Now, in the 1970s, we had been the richest country in the world - a creditor nation. In the middle of the
`80s, under this policy of big spending on credit, we crossed the line and became a debtor nation for the first time since World War
One. The debt was run up to four-and-a-half trillion dollars, the largest debt in the history of the world. And it is
double-compounding, effectively, with the interest and with the continuing deficit. So you can look for it to jump to ten trillion
and twenty trillion dollars, and NOBODY has the faintest idea of what, in fact, will happen to this thing, or what can be done with
this thing.

What I'm saying is very simply this: President Reagan - great irony - President Reagan and Vice-President George Bush, and then
President George Bush, SOLD OUT the United States in the production of arms. They rendered this country into a condition where other
people control our economic future. And again, the irony is that they sold it through patriotism and making us feel great again.

George Bush inherited a situation in which the People were waking up. They were realizing the debt and feeling this ominous burden
that we're going to have, which we'll pass on to our children. They were also realizing (even TIME Magazine published discussions on
the decade of greed of the `80s, under Reagan and Bush) that the People's pockets had been picked. There has been a MASSIVE shift of
wealth from the poor and middle-classes to the ultra-rich, in this period of time. The ultra-rich, for example, their taxes were cut
from seventy percent to thirty-two percent. And President Reagan called it a tax cut. But for the poor - the bottom half of the
society - it was a tax increase of five percent.

This is the key to understanding the Savings & Loan Crisis. The bankers encouraged irresponsibility. And remember, TWO HUNDRED
officials in the Reagan Administration were forced to resign under the threat of trial - criminal proceedings for their corruption.

And some of them were prosecuted and, in fact, jailed. And this irresponsibility trickled down into the savings and loan industry,
which the Central Intelligence Agency was using to launder its money into Central America and to launder drug money into its
programs. And the result, of course, is that they were BLOWING our money. We invested our money, and they would blow it, steal it,
declare bankruptcy, open up another S&L bank. And this became the norm until eventually they collapsed the industry. The bankers,
the CIA, the Mafia and Neil Bush, George Bush's son: all involved in this great scandal, this massive bilking of the American
People.

And now they're telling us that this is what George Bush inherited, and that what we need to do is .... They are NOT (the bankers,
and George Bush and his cohorts) they are NOT going to pay that money back! But they say WE can't afford to lose the Public trust in
the banking industry, so WE have to recondition the industry with five hundred billion to ONE TRILLION DOLLARS! And they're going to
make the PEOPLE pay for it. And it was the PEOPLE whose money was stolen by these thieves to begin with! And they are NOT putting
them in jail!

You know, when I see this thing, I say: "Where is the scream?" You know? "Huh?" How will it restore MY confidence in the banking
industry to take MY money to replace what the thieves stole to begin with while they're proceeding to do it some more.

Meanwhile, because we couldn't afford everything, they made a religion out of cutting every social service that they could. Ronald
Reagan bragged that he had cut a thousand social services. George Bush's first statement, when he took the Presidency, is that he
would cut a thousand more.

How many people saw the movie LEAN ON ME ? Joe Clark, the principal, you know, with the baseball bat, holding children off the third
story of the school building, locking the fire doors, intimidating people, berating people.

It closes with the woman on welfare, and the students are cheering him, the hero, for breaking the law and brutalizing them. And
they're calling the woman on welfare, who's been organizing to try to get a sane principle ... they call her "the witch," the
"welfare witch." And she's laughed at and scorned, and she sneaks off.

The real Joe Clark was had to dinner at the White House. And this movie was shown in the White House. And Reagan advocates it
because the message that it's floating out to the society is:

"Do it for yourself. Don't depend on the Government because the Government won't give you the money. Be independent. Be Proud. Don't
ask the Government to build schools and give you good principals, and stuff like that."

They're gutting our Social Security! We can't afford to take care of the sick, the old, the poor, the handicapped, the farmers, or
to really help students get through school or to build up our school system so that it's truly competitive. In this period of time,
the United States' standard of living has dropped to tenth and twentieth in the world. Twenty-five percent of the people in this
country are functionally illiterate. We're ranked sixth in the percentage of children in school. We're tenth in the quality of
education. We're seventeenth in life expectancy. We're twentieth in infant mortality. The poor island communist country of Cuba has
a better infant mortality rate than our own nation's capital.

I submit to you that the United States only looks rich to ourselves because we compare ourselves with refugees from Central America.
If you go to Europe - and I challenge you to do so .... Before, I was saying: "Go to Nicaragua and see for yourself." Now I say to
people: "Go to Germany and see for yourself." This is not a communist country. It is not a socialist country. It is one of the two
most successful capitalist countries in the world today. They have guaranteed sick leave. They have guaranteed maternity leave. They
have one month's vacation guaranteed each year. They have guaranteed medical care and hospitalization. They have higher salaries.
They have better social services, and they spend a lot more money on building up the infrastructure of their society.

These are all things that President George Bush has been stubbornly, consistently vetoing - bill after bill after bill - depriving
us of these things, telling us that we are communists if we want these kinds of services from our society.

Meanwhile, the destruction of the environment continues, full-speed ahead. FIFTY YEARS of nuclear pollution! Just to give you one
example (and you've all read into this, I'm sure), in Pantex, Texas, near Amarillo, I've ridden bicycles up there, protesting. One
year, on a recumbent bicycle that was built, by the way, right down the road in Freedom, California, near here, that was loaned to
me for that purpose .... protesting in Pantex, they had this problem with liquid [nuclear] wastes.

They didn't want to go to the Congress and ask for billions of dollars to figure out how to store it or get rid of it because that
would draw attention to the problem. So, brilliant, cheap solution: they took bulldozers and scooped what we call tanks in the
prairie up there, and poured the liquid into it, so that it could evaporate up; so that it could blow into neighboring fields, so
that it could drip down into the Oglala aquifer.

Meanwhile, we're responsible, too. We all have to have automobiles. Very few of us are willing to walk or ride bicycles. A great
gluttony of consumption in this country, as we all have to buy more and more and more. And partially feeding that is the felling of
the rain forests throughout the world, cutting off the world's supply of oxygen. We're not just chopping down forests at the rate of
an area the size of the state of Maine each year.

We're burning them.

So that puts carbon up into the air, which again is blocking out the sun and changing substantially the environment.

You all know that we still have sixty thousand thermonuclear weapons boobytrapping this planet, just as we did in the mid-eighties,
when we worried about it. Now, how many of you have marched, protested, or done anything about the nuclear arms race in the last six
months? That's good! Most people have just forgotten. I wrote a book about it, and people have been racing on, and people have been
supporting it. I won't name them, but some very prominent people have been encouraging it for three years. And they said: "Well,
it's not really an issue now." And I said, "Huh?" It hasn't gone away. They've just SUCCESSFULLY DISTRACTED the world from this
problem!

We've had six [nuclear] submarines sink into the bottom of the ocean. We've had seven nuclear weapons dropped by accident! The
I.P.S. [Institute for Policy Studies] published, about a year ago, that there were fifty-two - I believe it was - parts of nuclear
weapons and nuclear reactors now scattered across the bottom of the ocean, leaking this terrible polluting, radioactive material
into the bottom of the ocean right now. No way on the face of the Earth to recover it! And it will be poisoning and polluting the
bottoms of the oceans FIFTY THOUSAND YEARS from now, presuming we haven't managed to do in the whole planet in that period of time.

Meanwhile - great victory over war and conflict. The Cold War was over. And we all celebrated. And we were all happy. Actually, not
quite all of us because I studied this thing out, and I said, "Ehh." And some prominent peaceniks beat me on the head and shoulders
and said, "C'mon. Give peace a chance!" But my assessment of it was that there was one cynicism. And [that is], because we had
solved nothing, the seeds of continuing conflict and instability [remained].

But the point is, in terms of my analysis of the Persian Gulf War, my prediction of it is that communism had capitulated and the
Soviet Union's economy was broken. And the United States Military Complex was desperate for new rationales. How could we justify
continuing to spend a huge segment of our budget on a continuing military buildup if the enemy was gone, and communism no longer
existed? So we had the United States War Complex facing severe cuts. They were put in a position of having nothing to lose.

They had resisted the invasion of Nicaragua because the spigots were wide open, and the money was flowing, and they knew that if the
body bags began to come back, people would get angry and they would shut off the spigots. And they would lose this great access to
the flow of OUR money: this welfare program we have for the Military-Industrial Complex and the so-called "defense" corporations.
Once the Cold War was over and we began to cut the budget, they had nothing to lose. And they had tons of new equipment to test. And
they needed to inspire the nation and recapture our imagination and our love for war.

Meanwhile, President George Bush, this nice man, came into the presidency haunted by this image of being a wimp, which is a little
bit of a red herring. This has never been a weak man! He's been intensely ambitious. There's a certain gawkiness about him, which
he's outgrowing, as a matter of fact. But we saw it in the CIA. There were a lot of jokes. But, in fact, he was a brilliant man - a
brilliant director.

He would take our Angola program, where we had broken the law and we had lied to cover it up, and he would go to the Congress and
say: "Those nice people I'm meeting out there - I just can't believe they would do that." And he could sell this to the Congress.
And he got us off the hook. He did not investigate. He did not punish any of us for breaking the laws. Instead, he was building
friendships and relationships that continue today. When he became president, he appointed CIA officers to assistant secretarial
posts and to ambassadorial posts throughout the Government.

Meanwhile, this man, who was stung by the wimp image, had inherited all the problems and all the responsibility for the wrecking of
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Meanwhile, this man, who was stung by the wimp image, had inherited all the problems and all the responsibility for the wrecking of
the U.S. economy that he and President Reagan had done. Meanwhile, at the same time, he is a confirmed internationalist. He was
desperate to get the nation distracted from the internal problems. But also, his solution to any problem: he's going to be happy
working with all these hundreds and hundreds of contacts that he's built up internationally, overseas, telephoning chiefs-of-state
all over the world, and saying: "Hi Joe. Hi Ahmad. How are things going? What can we do about this problem or that one?" He's proud
of his heritage in the British Nobility, Yale's "Skull and Bones Society," the Council on Foreign Relations, the Knights of Malta.
World War II: he was in the Pacific. He was ambassador to China, ambassador to the United Nations, CIA director, and a successful
Texas and international oilman, never having really slaved and focused on social problems or domestic problems in the United States.


And there ARE NO solutions to these problems which they've created: the debt and the deficit.

How internationalist is he? I would say totally - ninety percent. He's NOT concerned about the people of the United States. SIXTY
MINUTES did a segment on him, during the 1988 election campaign, in which they revealed that eighteen members of his campaign staff
had collected six- and seven-figure honoraria from foreign countries and foreign companies in the eighteen months before that
election. He had surrounded himself with internationalists who were plugged into the international financial and business community.


Meanwhile, since he's been president, he's been consistently vetoing bills - more bills than any other president in history. Every
bill that, in any way, grants a reprieve to the people of this country: he vetoes it! And any bill that in any way tries to curtail
the greed of the upper one percent: he vetoes it!

Hence, adding all of these things together - the U.S. cycle and its nightmare of an economic situation that we have, the sliding
into recession, the Savings & Loan crisis, in which his own family was involved, the malaise that was setting in, the recession
again, and his own problem with his own masculinity - it was safe to predict that he would look for an overseas solution: a war!
It's been done time and time again, as you'll see if you read Howard Zinn's book, A People's History of the United States.

Bush was able to say that we were fighting for cheaper gasoline. I don't know if you know this, but immediately, in the first week
of August, my gasoline prices shot up by 30 percent. And there was no shortage of oil in the World. And the Arab emirs were not
getting that extra 30 percent tax on gasoline. This was the middleman, the oilman, of whom George Bush and his family are members,
as a matter of fact. And magically, in order to make us feel good about this war, guess what happened when we went to war in
mid-January? The prices were dropped down. So everybody is saying: Hey, we're at war and the gasoline prices have gone down.

So they feel a little good about it, obviously without understanding.

Once again, if I may repeat Senator Hiram Johnson's book of 1917:

"WHEN WAR COMES, THE FIRST CASUALTY IS THE TRUTH." What we're dealing with here is the power of the football pep rally, as matched
against the power of a seminar on political science, if you will, or this meeting, or the intellectual grappling with the issues.
Very intelligent people can forget their intelligence when they go to a football pep rally and they begin to cheer:
"Kill! Kill! Kill! Kill!" And they get into it. And they get excited. And this is the war spirit that Lyndon Johnson wouldn't tap,
refused to tap, in the Vietnam War, that George Bush has successfully tapped in this war.

I submit to you that this is not, in fact, "a good war." There's nothing good about it, as far as I can see. The oil, for example,
that we're supposedly fighting for, is not our oil. It belongs to the oligarchies of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. And they sell it to
Japan and Germany. We get seven percent of our oil from that region altogether, and we have alternatives, even there. Japan, which
depends on that oil, didn't want this war because the war would interrupt the flow of oil and endanger the sources and
installations. And they can buy the oil from Saddam Hussein just as well as they can buy it from the Saudis or the Kuwaitis. The
United States insisted on proceeding into this war for our own reasons. And there was a great rift in our society because even the
Commandant of the Marine Corps and General Schwartzkopf himself, were against the war. They were saying: "Let sanctions work. This
is a dangerous thing - an unnecessary thing. We shouldn't do it." We were orchestrated into it because George Bush, the politician,
and the people that he would rally to him, needed it and wanted it.

"We are fighting for democracy and freedom in the Middle East."

Come again? This is what they said, of course, lying, in Nicaragua and in Panama: "We were fighting to restore democracy." But
certainly, there isn't even a pretense of democracy in the Middle East. Our allies over there in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait .....
Forgive me if this sounds chauvinistic. It's not. I've lived seventeen years overseas and laid my life on the line for people of the
Third World. But the leaders of Saudi Arabia, for example, are not, by my humanist standards, nice people. They stone women to death
for adultery.

How many people saw the docudrama, THE DEATH OF A PRINCESS?

This is a true story. A granddaddy billionaire there ordered his 19-year-old granddaughter shot in a village square because she had
sex with her lover.

These are the people that we're fighting and dying for, to restore their oil and their source of billions of dollars to them. I
can't see it.

I wouldn't spend five dollars for one American life to defend their oil interests.

But nevertheless, of course, they're saying that we're fighting for peace - that we'll restore peace into the Middle East.

Now, given the reaction among the Arab Peoples, we are thinking: How could George Bush have miscalculated the response of the Arab
People, of the Moslems around the World, to this war? And I submit to you that one thing is obvious: We have controlled so much of
the World through oligarchies until this date - and we've done it successfully over there using brutal death squads when we had to -
that they could easily think: "We'll just go on doing it. If people don't like it, we'll slap them down." But I submit to you that
there may be a deeper point. They may have predicted and expected this reaction, in fact.

Because what is now guaranteed in the Middle East is that there will be another war in five years or ten years, and another one, and
another one. There are thousands of babies being born named Saddam Hussein right now, today. And the anguish and the horror and the
empathy for the ones who are dying in it will go on in [the form of] conditioned violence. So we have absolutely laid it out on the
line: the rationales for our new arms race, if you will, or for continuing the military dominance over our society.

We have the new rationale - set up now against the Arab World and against countries of the Third World - to actually build a more
expensive army than the one that we had in Europe, as a matter of fact, which had confronted the Soviet Union. THEN, by the summer
of 1990, the military budget was facing massive cuts. We were talking about a peace dividend, and the columnists, because of these
problems, were calling George Bush "a one-term president". And then, in September, we had the budget fiasco, for which he has NO
solution, and it frustrated him enormously. He changed his mind eight times in one day on one of the key issues.

The newspapers were reporting, or observing, that if we had a parliamentary system, he would be out that soon after coming into
office because he had no solution. He didn't have the votes to stay in office, if we had had the system of England, for example.

Now, we have the war going, and seven months later, this one-term president is so strong that two days ago in the L.A. Times they
had a prominent article saying that there was no point in the Democrats running a candidate in 1992. There's no one who could run
who would have any chance of winning against George Bush.

And the Military's budget was being slashed largely back then, with talks about bigger cuts. And now it's back up to an all-time,
all-nation, all-history high, in our next budget. We'll talk about that again in just a minute.

The popularity of George Bush, the Military and CNN is sordid! The media pageant that we're seeing right now has been carefully
rehearsed during these years of preparation for our next war. After Grenada (Remember? the island?) the Press couldn't get in to
cover it, so, with frustration, they published clippings given to them by the sidebar of the Army.

And afterwards, they had a meeting with General Seidel, the Seidel Commission, in which they agreed that in the next war there would
be a press pool that would cover the war with a task force, reporting what that task force approved for them to report. And we're
getting just that, exactly, in the coverage of the Middle Eastern war in the Persian Gulf right now, today: a censored,
Pentagon-edited view of what's happening.

The commentators' love affair with the Military now .... Of course, they've gotten into it, after some debate and doubt at first,
because the Establishment was divided on this war. Once the war was joined, of course, their word, their party line is that we have
to support the nation and the troops once we're at war, even if we didn't want it. And so, they've closed ranks, and the media is
faithfully trumpeting what the Pentagon tells them to say.

Now I ask you: What is the degree of distortion of the truth about what's happening in the desert over there right now in this air
war today? We've not been shown one single miss of this new equipment in any of the raids that they've shown us endlessly on
television. And so, are they really 100 percent infallible? I'll give you an example that will give you a measure of these
eighty-three thousand (actually, it's over eighty-five thousand) air strikes that they've launched so far.

The Pentagon made a mistake. They made one slip-up that gave us a reading on this. They announced, about two weeks ago in a
briefing, that, in preparing for the ground war, they had to knock out thirty-six strategic bridges that would cut the supply lines
into Kuwait. They said that they had flown seven hundred and ninety surgical strikes against those bridges, and that they had
knocked out thirty-two bridges. Now that's twenty-four strikes per bridge, with a kill factor of eight percent and a miss factor of
ninety-two percent.

And these are the surgical weapons that are supposed to be so precise that you could put them through the window of a Fiat. Now, the
other weapons that they're dropping over there - the bombs and things - can be five miles, and even fifty miles off-target.

Peeling back the layers of untruth in the rationales of this war, how many people have seen Ralph Schoenman's article, unfortunately
published in an obscure paper in Berkeley [California] called The Socialist Action? This is a renowned intellectual who worked with
Bertrand Russell at one time.

And [there is] Charlie Reese, reporting in the Houston Post down there. And now we have the studies coming out with excellent
documentation: how the United States and Kuwait and Saudi Arabia LURED Saddam Hussein and Iraq into this war.

First, we encouraged them to engage Iran in the Iran-Iraq War, beginning in 1980, for eight years. Kuwait and Saudi Arabia financed
that war, encouraging Iraq in that war. They ran up an eighty- billion-dollar debt. After the war, the country [Iraq] [ was] in [a]
very precarious economic condition.

They [Kuwait] began calling in the money and they began driving down the oil prices so that Iraq had lost sixteen billion dollars in
revenues, and they were faced with bankruptcy. There's also the factor that Saddam Hussein, with his massive testosterone problem,
was building up his army again, instead of building up the infrastructure of the country.

Nevertheless, during that war, Kuwait had actually expanded its floating desert border by nine hundred square miles to reach over
the Rumaila oil fields that belonged to Iraq, and they bought the Santa Fe Drilling Company of California, for 2.3 billion dollars,
that specializes in slant oil drilling.

And Saddam Hussein was protesting this formally to every public body: to Kuwait, to Saudi Arabia, saying: "This is economic
warfare." And I submit to you: How long do you think it would take us to respond with the U.S. Marines if Mexico or Canada captured,
took, nine hundred square miles of our land and began slant oil drilling into our oil fields? Like about twenty-four hours for them
to get the tanks and the planes down there, bombing and strafing! We would be at war in a minute! This was a clear provocation to
war!

So this past summer, Saddam Hussein called in the U.S. Ambassador, April Glaspie, and asked her what the U.S. position was on Kuwait
- on the defense of Kuwait. She did not know that she was being tape-recorded, and she told him ten times in this conversation that
we had no defense agreement with Kuwait. At one point, she said that the Secretary of State [James Baker] had ordered her to
emphasize this instruction. She said she had conferred with the President about it.

Congressman Lee Hamilton concluded, from hearings on this, that we had DELIBERATELY given Saddam Hussein the green light to invade
Kuwait. Again, that's not my observation. That was the congressman who was running the committee to investigate this thing: "We gave
him, Saddam Hussein, the green light to invade Kuwait."

Meanwhile, the Assistant Secretary of State was saying publicly, in hearings at the same time, that we had no defense agreement with
Kuwait. So Hussein thought he was being permitted to go in and take Kuwait. And he did it. And he thought that we would not react.

And, of course, if he had bothered to ask me, I would have said: "You're walking under the Great Mallet, and they're going to drop
it on you." Because I knew they were shopping for a war! And you've seen him. He is not a stupid man at all.

But you've seen him floundering around throughout this process because he doesn't understand, even today apparently, that the United
States wants a war - at least our leadership does. They want the full orgy and pageantry of a bloody war. Once he went in there,
they would not LET him off the hook!

Now we're in the position .... they [U.S. leaders] are frustrated that Gorbachev has come up with a peace plan that might, in fact,
let this thing be solved peacefully without the slaughter of troops on the ground. And the White House is admitting, they're
discussing openly, that this is a big PROBLEM for the United States because peace might, in fact, happen.

They are determined to go in on the ground, but they're under enormous pressure from the Coalition, from the Allies, from people in
the United Nations who gave us the green light to go to war against him, to accept this peace overture and to find a peaceful
solution. And it's a big frustration to George Bush. My estimate is that they would probably be engaged in the war right now, but a
massive storm has set in in the desert.

The annual rains were happening when Dan Rather was on the News, just a couple of hours ago tonight. That storm will blow over about
Friday. And unless there's some miracle, which there could be, in the form of peace negotiations, they will probably launch this
thing about Friday or thereabouts.
The score today, in this war, in the Superbowl War: the Military is backed with an all-time-high annual budget. We have the new
rationale for a long-term continuation of the Military Machine. [And that rationale is] now The Third World, especially the Arab
Third World and the Moslem Third World. The United States is now once again, finally, after the Vietnam War, back to being a lean,
mean, fighting machine.

This Third World rationale thing: just understand now, how long, how carefully do they plan these things? Do they stumble into them?
Let me point out that George Kennan, in the late 1940s after World War II, said that eventually conflict in the World would evolve
to conflict between the haves of the Northern Hemisphere and the have-nots. And this, of course, is what has happened.

The Rapid Deployment Force that we exercised to get our forces over there: Was it brought together by Ronald Reagan? No, by Jimmy
Carter. And the first rehearsal of this technique was under Jimmy Carter in joint exercises with Egypt, as a matter of fact. That's
how far back they were preparing our Military for this type of conflict, and for the new rationales, as communism subsided.

Meanwhile, because of some aspects of this war, the Peace Community is paralyzed. There is simply none of the anger that was in the
Peace Community towards the end of the Vietnam War protest. Jane Fonda, of course, is very quiet on this one. But, you see, you
learned about Jane Fonda in 1981 when Israel put its troops into Lebanon. She and Tom Hayden went to Israel and spoke out publicly
in support of what Israel was doing.

So she wasn't against war, she was just against the Vietnam War. Or maybe it's because she was young and what she was doing was fun.
But she's clearly not against war. Meanwhile, she's engaged to - guess who? Ted Turner, of CNN, who is profiting HUGELY from this
thing. And the magic of this "Good War" is such .... Now Ted Turner's a fine man, and Jane Fonda is, in fact (although we're on
different sides in this one), a fine person. But Ted Turner is and has been, a champion of Glasnost, working before Glasnost, to get
better relations between the [two] countries and to deter the arms race.

And he is a personal friend of Fidel Castro. And yet, on this one, because of the rationales and the glamor and what-not - he's
turned CNN into the major cheerleader for the Pentagon in this war.

The Peace Community, of course, is wearing yellow ribbons in support of the troops over there. Now this is a very complicated issue.
There's no one, at least not me, who can look at the troops over there without feeling some sympathy for them, especially the ones
who were so naive that they allowed themselves to watch those ads on TV and get sucked into the Military without ever thinking that
the purpose of the Military is to fight.

And once you go into the Military, for whatever reason - to go to college or whatever reason - if the nation goes to war, you can no
longer claim to be a conscientious objector.

But let me just suggest to you .... and I don't mean to be hard- nosed about this, but I'll give you two ideas to think about. When
you are living history, it's hard to read history books and compare. Germany did evil things in 1920 and 1930, but that was somehow
different because we're nice people. Let me just point out to you that,

ONE: Germany was a Christian country;

TWO: Germany was a democracy that allowed a segment to take over and direct it into a war mode.

A lot of the German People did not like the leadership, did not like the Nazi party, and had doubts about the war. But once the
nation joined in the war, they buckled down and sacrificed to support their country and their troops, as they proceeded to get
THIRTY MILLION PEOPLE KILLED!

Now the soldiers that we have over there today are volunteers. In Vietnam, a lot of them were draftees. This is a significant
difference, although I would certainly agree that they were seduced into this thing, as I was at a comparable age. But I also note,
when I start saying: "Okay, I support the soldiers," (you know) "but not the war," - but then I say: "But what about the Iraqi
soldiers, and what about the Iraqi People and the Kuwaiti People, and all the others?" And then I also look back in my own history,
when I was a determined member, an energetic member, of the "White male killer establishment," as Helen Caldicott calls it. And I
would come home and my friends would embrace me and love me and support me. They would say:

"We don't know what you're doing. We're not sure about it over there. But we support you."

And I would go back, feeling supported, as we got drunk, as we got raunchy, as we organized the killing of people.

Now, I've analyzed carefully and even written a book about what made me change. And there were four people whom I can remember, who
significantly altered my thinking. And they were people who punched me in the intellectual belly. They were close friends who said:

"What you're doing with your life is dead wrong! You are participating in EVIL! And you DO have a choice, and you CAN redirect your
life." And I raged. I hurt. I was upset. I had insomnia. It was painful. But they had made me think, and the thinking led me to
break away. It's called "tough love."

I AM NOT GOING TO WEAR A YELLOW RIBBON!
[applause and cheers]

In a lecture in L.A. last week, Ron Kovic [paraplegic Vietnam War veteran, whose life is the subject of the movie, BORN ON THE
FOURTH OF JULY] was there, and a couple of people took me on. Richard Macer stood up and said: "I want to feel GOOD about this war."
And I said: "You know - I don't feel good about anything about this war." But you know, so I'm a hard-ass. So, Ron Kovic -
afterwards, I asked him, I said, "Am I off-base?" He said:

"No! You're ABSOLUTELY right! We have to stick these people who are over there. They DO have a choice, and they have to be reminded
that what they're doing is WRONG! Don't embrace them with war and love. They're going to come back ten feet tall, with all the the
drums beating, and the media and the bands playing. And what is that going to do to the ten-year-olds who see this happening?
They're going to want to join the Army, and they're going to be begging for a war so they can have fun like their uncles did."

The losers today, in this score card: The Kuwaiti people, for sure. The Iraqi people, for sure. The Israelis, who are living under
the Scud missiles and the fear, and having to teach their kids about gas masks. The Palestinians, who are having to live under a
24-hour curfew. What if your baby gets sick and you can't get out, and you don't have the money and you can't go out to buy
penicillin?

And they are facing possible expulsion from where they're living, right now.

King Hussein of Jordan, a long-time ally of the United States, is facing possible overthrow. Arab leaders, long-term allies, are
facing a period of severe instability. And our Administration is now recognizing this and talking about the fact that we're going to
have a massive problem keeping the peace in the Middle East, and we'll probably have to leave a massive force there for an
indeterminate period of time to enforce a Pax Americana. And think about how that dynamic is going to build and make the people
there love us.

The environment: Remember, they [Iraq] did have a nuclear weapons development plant. And it's been bombed massively. And plutonium
doesn't disintegrate when you bomb it. All of those little plutonium molecules are flipping through the environment and floating in
the air right now. And they will be toxic ten thousand years from now - fifty thousand years from now.

The Persian Gulf: massively polluted. The oil fields that are burning in Kuwait - they estimate that it will take a year to put them
out, once we can get to them, and we can't get to them anytime soon. And they are dumping millions of tons of soot into the air,
which is the darkest substance in the world, which is going up into the atmosphere, blocking the sun's rays again.
And other losers are the United States People. I mean the below-the-50-percent-line. WE are funding this war! The ultra-rich are NOT
paying their share of the support of this society, and they're NOT paying their share of this war itself! And we have gone back
under the [mass media propaganda] line of our devotion to the Military and the military budget, which is restored to an all-time
high.

Now you notice George Bush, in his 1984 newspeak, he announced the budget for the next year last week, and he said it amounted to a
three-and-a-half percent cut of the military budget. And he said that we would address infant mortality under this program. If you
just read down a little bit in his speech on the subject, it becomes clear that they're handling this war under a separate
allocation, so that it [the war budget] is not part of the military [budget].

And it also becomes clear that the Rapid Deployment [Force] ships and airplanes that they have to build to fight more wars in the
Third World in the Middle East are being handled under a supplementary budget. So the budget is a cut, he says? In fact, it is an
ALL-TIME HIGH [military] budget - an all-nation, all-history forever [all-time high military budget]. Just a flat, bald manipulation
of the truth is what he's done in this thing!

Now, I submit to you that both the United States and the U.S.S.R. (again) lost the Cold War. What you have to understand is that in
the United States, the corporations who spent the TWO-AND-A-HALF TRILLION DOLLARS building all of these missiles in a forty-one
percent increase of our nuclear capability - our so-called "defense" corporations - ARE NOT, IN FACT, U.S. corporations.

The U.S. has not profited from these things. We've had a massive welfare program in which we gave money to these corporations for a
military buildup in which they made 20 to 24 percent profit, which is twice what is the norm in this society. But the key to
understanding this system is that these ARE NOT U.S. corporations. Not anymore! They are multinational corporations, on a welfare
dole from the U.S. taxpayers, producing MX missiles which are put in holes in the ground, which can never be used, and producing
Tomahawk missiles and everything that we're pouring into the desert at a million dollars a shot, now which are not being sold, and
cannot be sold to other countries of the world.

Meanwhile, once again, Ronald Reagan ... when he was building this thing up and hyping it, talking endlessly about Nicaragua, a
country with two elevators .... meanwhile, in that same period of time, we were building these MX missiles, and Japan was building
Toyotas and Sonys, passing us by, in terms of trade balances and trade goods, so that our money was going overseas, so that we
plunged into the status of massive debt as a massive debtor nation.

These corporations that are taking our capital and leaking it out of the country are happy to do this to the United States because
they are TRANSNATIONAL CORPORATIONS. The tradition of this goes back into history. In World War II .... Remember? Read the book:
Trading with the Enemy, by Charles Higham[sp], Dell Press, 1982 (based on documents gotten out of the Government under the Freedom
of Information Act), about how the major corporations in the United States were trading with Hitler's Germany throughout the war;
how Standard Oil [of New Jersey] supplied him with more oil at a better price than they sold it [at] to the United States, for
example.

So you have these multinational corporations SUCKING UP CAPITAL from the United States to build these things that are poured into
the desert or put in holes in the ground, while, in fact, they are investing in the production of cars and trade goods in countries
overseas, as part of the World Financial Order. The FOUR-AND-A-HALF TRILLION DOLLAR DEBT that is double-compounding. I'm sure you've
wondered why is it that our Government is not more upset and concerned, viscerally, with such a staggering debt which probably can
never be repaid?

And talking to Admiral Carroll at the Center for Defense Information - he and I came up with a key to understanding this thing.
[It's] their contempt for the American People, and for America itself, [by] the people who essentially spent this money.

The multinational corporations are part of the same World Order, the World Financial Order that holds the paper on this loan, which
means that the interest that's being paid is exactly like taxes to them, if you will, or at least, [this interest is like] enforced
debts and loans where it's guaranteed by law that they will be paid at the interest rates that are fixed.

And that's why they're not afraid of this debt.

Because they're making money off of it, from US!

The second or third line item on the budget now is the interest that we're paying to them on this debt for building up this military
thing for their own profit and policing of the World.

Now, what we have is the United States rendered into a position, because of these policies - because of the Cold War and the arms
race and Reagan and Bush's policies - into a position where we're no longer in control of our economic future.

However, we still are the World's military superpower. And even the Soviet Union , in its state of semi-collapse, is the World's
second military superpower.

But we're still going strong while they're imploding and lapsing into chaos. The World Financial Order can't move us too far, or at
least, it can't move without us because we're still a major player. But also we have the might.

It's a symbiotic relationship of money and might.

And so then, you come up with an understanding of what we're doing in the Persian Gulf.

The United States has now become the Praetorian Guard of what George Bush calls "THE NEW WORLD ORDER", policing the World for the
people who own the World, effectively, [the world] of today and tomorrow.

Now, in closing, let me point out that this New World Order will clearly NOT be more peaceful.

That would not suit them economically for it to be peaceful. It will NOT bring greater freedoms. To the contrary. It will bring
continuing repression and forfeiture of our basic freedoms that we've enjoyed for so long.

It will certainly NOT bring a greater equity in the distribution of wealth. To the contrary. The wealth will continue to flow from
the poor and the middle class to the ultra-rich.

And it certainly will NOT bring greater social services in this country because the New World Order is letting us go to the Persian
Gulf to fight this war for them, and they are letting us bear the lion's share of financing this thing, as we fight the war in their
interests over there right now.

Now to close .... and I won't go on for long. But just on a note of motivation and hope - and I hope some of the questions will get
into what we can do .... I want to remind you of what I said the last time I was here. Admiral LaRocque, when I went to ask him:
"Admiral, what can I tell people to do about these problems." And he said: "This is a wonderful question.

Tell them that you know what you're capable of, what your skills are, what you can do." He said: "I tell people, if they can write,
to write letters. Write articles. Write books. Write telegrams.

If they can travel, go to Nicaragua. Go to Germany. See for yourself.

Understand the World so that you can witness and discuss this intelligently."
He said he tells people: "If you feel comfortable lying down in front of trucks with bombs on them, do it."

But he said:

"YOU'VE GOT TO DO WHAT YOU CAN DO EVERY DAY OF YOUR LIFE, BEGINNING TODAY, BECAUSE" (He didn't say this, but this is what he was
concerned about.) the course that we are on will definitely lead, eventually, to rendering this planet UNINHABITABLE. Now, it won't
happen in five years or ten years.

But eventually, unless we profoundly change what we are doing, there will BE NO MORE warm-blooded life on this planet.

Sooner or later, we MUST change or we will destroy ourselves.

So you have to GET ENGAGED.

And Helen Caldicott, that wonderful, wonderful speaker who tells us so beautifully, she says: "Get involved. You'll feel better than
sitting back in frustration." Get out and work on this problem - what she calls "the public health problem of this planet."

And she points out that "if you WILL get involved, you'll feel better, and you can - if the thing, or when the thing, finally blows
apart - if there's a few minutes before the bombs land on your town, you can turn to your loved ones and hug them and say: `Honey,
at least we tried.'"

Now we'll discuss some specifics in the question and answer period which is coming up right now. But for openers, I urge people -
because of the frustration and the anger and the fear and the anxiety that we're subjected to

- I urge people to remember to hug someone every day of your life.

And hug some animal every day of your life, because they share this dilemma with us. Now, I've noticed, at the end of rallies and
lectures, in some confusion, a lot of people like to hold up the "V" for victory. And I reject that because I don't think there will
every be a victory over evil, or a victory of peace, at which time the World will be okay - in addition to which, I don't like the
concept of victory because I don't think that would be a peaceful solution in and of itself.

I give you the open hand of peace, and thank you very much for hearing me out. Thank you.

[End of talk]

***

The American Public is evidently in dire need of the truth, for when the plutocracy feeds us sweet lies instead of the bitter truth
that would evoke remedial action by the People, then we are in peril of sinking inextricably into despotism.

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http://www.savethemales.ca (Dr. Henry Makow) http://www.innworldreport.net/ http://cloakanddagger.ca <http://cloakanddagger.ca/>


http://www.whtt.org (Chuck Carlson) http://www.jimhightower.com/air/archive.asp http://thehandstand.org/

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http://www.serendipity.li/ http://69.28.73.17/ http://www.wingtv.net/ (Victor Thorn & Lisa Juliani)

http://www.commondreams.org <http://www.commondreams.org/> http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/ http://rawstory.com/
http://www.rense.com <http://www.rense.com/>

http://www.theinsider.org/mailing/archive.asp http://www.antiwar.com <http://www.antiwar.com/> (Justin Raimondo)

http://www.counterpunch.org <http://www.counterpunch.org/boyle11152004.html> http://www.corpwatch.org/index.php
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http://www.globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca/> (Michael Chossudovsky;University of Ottawa;Professor of Economics)

http://www.cloakanddagger.de/ http://www.almartinraw.com <http://www.almartinraw.com/> http://www.dadapop.com/
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http://www.911truth.org <http://www.911truth.org/> http://question911.com <http://question911.com/> http://www.911-strike.com/
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http://911research.wtc7.net/ http://911exposed.com/ Eric Rainbolt http://www.uruknet.info <http://www.uruknet.info/>

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http://erichufschmid.net/911.swf http://69.28.73.17/planesite.html http://100777.com/

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http://www.worldnewsstand.net/John_Kami ... chives.htm http://www.total411.info/

http://www.worldnewsstand.net/history/redsymphony.html http://www.legitgov.org/

http://www.rense.com/Datapages/kaminski.htm http://www.truthout.org/multimedia.htm

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/columnist.asp?ID=11 http://www.countercurrents.org/

http://www.lewisnews.com/section.asp?ID=104
<http://www.lewisnews.com/section.asp?ID ... +Beacon%22>
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http://www.threeworldwars.com <http://www.threeworldwars.com/> Michael B. Haupt http://illuminati-news.com/
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http://www.theamericanvoice.com/ (radio show) http://www.twf.org/ http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/

http://www.yellowtimes.org <http://www.yellowtimes.org/> http://www.tvnewslies.org <http://www.tvnewslies.org/>
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http://www.robert-fisk.com <http://www.robert-fisk.com/> http://www.johnpilger.com/ http://www.traprockpeace.org/

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http://www.altpr.org <http://www.altpr.org/> http://www.americanfreepress.net <http://www.americanfreepress.net/>
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http://www.themoneymasters.com <http://www.themoneymasters.com/> (Patrick S.J. Carmack;B.B.A.;J.D. and Bill Still)
http://www.monetary.org/

http://www.prosperityuk.com/prosperity/prosperity.html http://www.uncoveringthetruth.com/
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/2/fed.htm http://polunatic.blogspot.com/

http://www.sfgroup.org/ <http://www.sfgroup.org/> (Richard Benson explains the Federal Reserve System Fraud)

http://www.investmentrarities.com/besto ... -11-03.htm http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm

http://www.financialsense.com/series4/part1.html James Puplava http://www.worldreports.org/

http://www.dal.ca/~rislam/book.htm (Dr. Rafiqul Islam;Dalhousie University;Canada;Professor)

http://www.williamcooper.com <http://www.williamcooper.com/> (killed Nov 2001) http://www.public-action.com
<http://www.public-action.com/> (Carol Valentine)

http://www.freedomforceinternational.org http://www.realityzone.com (G. Edward Griffin)

http://www.thelawparty.org/ http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/ www.jackblood.com

http://www.breakfornews.com/ http://www.web-tracks.org/ www.rbnlive.com <http://www.rbnlive.com/>

http://www.karlschwarz.com/ http://www.michaelmoore.com <http://www.michaelmoore.com/> http://www.iamthewitness.com/

http://www.skolnicksreport.com <http://www.skolnicksreport.com/> (Sherman Skolnick) http://marcosolo.journalspace.com/

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http://www.israelshamir.net <http://www.israelshamir.net/> http://www.bilderberg.org <http://www.bilderberg.org/>
http://www.politicalaffairs.net

http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=8286 http://www.viewfromthewall.com <http://www.viewfromthewall.com/>

http://www.mideastfacts.com/resolutions.html http://www.informationtimes.com/

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http://www.fromthewilderness.com (Michael Ruppert) http://www.copvcia.com <http://www.copvcia.com/>

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/ http://www.conspiracyworld.com/ http://www.americanrevolutionaryparty.us/
http://www.freepressinternational.com/ http://www.freeworldalliance.com/

http://dahrjamailiraq.com <http://dahrjamailiraq.com/> exposes the US lies about Iraq http://philadelphians.50megs.com/

http://www.tidbitsnews.com <http://www.tidbitsnews.com/> Sir Peter Bonnell CJSJ http://www.propagandamatrix.com/index.html

http://www.nwointelligence.com/ http://www.conspiracydigest.com/

http://www.kurtnimmo.com/blog/ http://www.steamshovelpress.com/

http://www.theresistancemanifesto.com/ http://www.justsaynotofascism.com/

http://www.biblestudysite.com/markis.htm (Jack Bernstein 1985)

http://batr.org/911/ http://pulpnonfiction.blogspot.com/ http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/

http://www.livejournal.com/users/mparent7777/ (crimes and corruption of the new world order)

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http://www.currentissues.tv/ Cox cable channel 5 Lafayette La USA

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http://www.stewwebb.com/ http://cryptome.org/cia-2619.htm#Z The Crowley Files

http://www.freedomdomain.com/bankfed.htm http://www.hugequestions.com/

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http://bb.domaindlx.com/alexjames999/ http://blogs.albawaba.com/Alexanderjames

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http://groups.msn.com/TotalTruthSciences/messages.msnw http://piratenews.org/

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http://www.kosmosltd.net/Enemy_Within.htm http://www.lovearth.net/ http://www.counterthink.org/

http://www.monbiot.com/ www.sciencedaily.com <http://www.sciencedaily.com/> http://www.uscrusade.com/2002/09042002.html

http://www.pacificviews.org/ http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/HAARP.htm

http://scienceforpeace.sa.utoronto.ca/B ... _Page.html http://www.orwelltoday.com/

http://thereitis.org/Web_Links-index-re ... -1000.html

http://www.assassinationscience.com <http://www.assassinationscience.com/> http://www.larouchepub.com <http://www.larouchepub.com/>
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http://www.linkcrusader.com/anti-bush.htm http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/

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http://www.911busters.com/911_new_video ... tions.html

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http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/

http://www.liferepatterning.com/SECRETF ... States.htm http://www.judicialwatch.org/

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