The Real Fourth

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The Real Fourth

Post#1 » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:17 pm

A couple of written ideas on what the 4th is really about that I liked. I used to urge people to describe that day as Independence Day, not the4th of July. I do not do that anymore. ... ourth.html

The Real Fourth
I take something from the comments on this ZeroGov post.

On the Fourth, we celebrate open rebellion, high treason, and disobedience.

We celebrate men who killed their countrymen for their principles.

Men who risked being demonized and executed by their government, for their principles.

Don't you ever, ever forget that.


It's not about apple pie, baseball, fireworks, and the Declaration of Independence.

The Fourth is about men holding to their principles strongly enough to lead to killing, rebellion, and treason.

Such actions led them to freedom.

Expensive, horrible, priceless freedom.

Have a pleasant day tomorrow.


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Fourth of July, otra vez
Wrote this one two years ago, and did not feel the need to change anything.

It does me well to remember, now that the Fourth of July is here and all the banners and colors are in evidence, just what the observance is supposed to be for.

The Fourth of July is not the day the Constitution was signed or ratified.

It's not even when the Bill of Rights (and with it the legitimacy of the Constitution) was ratified.

It has nothing--nothing--to do with self-congratulatory, chest-thumping military displays.

It has nothing to do with any sort of flag.

It has nothing to do with faithfulness or loyalty to your government.

In fact, if you read the document that the Fourth actually celebrates, you find some interesting things, including:

* This is about declaring that a people are ultimately independent from, and therefore above, their government.
* This is about declaring the right to revolt against a government that has stopped representing its people.
* This is about people willing to stand up and become military targets of their own government.

These folks were revolutionaries. They were secessionists. They were seditionists. No doubt King George considered them "terrorists" and "traitors", guilty of "treason" toward the duly constituted authoritah of the time.

And we celebrate the Fourth of July today, not only because they stood up and said, "we've had enough of your abuses and are no longer subject to your rule", but then had the moxie to fight back when George called them on it.

Think about that. These people opened fire on their own government, when said government came to take away their stockpiles of unlicensed, unregistered, long-range, (better than) military-style arms. They organized and fought a guerrilla insurrection rather than continue to endure a government that did not serve, reflect or benefit them. And, perhaps to the surprise of everyone including themselves, they prevailed.

Isn't it funny how times have changed. Criticizing the government is now only done by kooks and loonies, who of course should be rounded up and added to the ever-growing list of potential terrorists. Quoting the Constitution or Bill of Rights is now considered impertinent enough to get you on the list. And the Fourth of July is now all about wearing the team colors, whooping it up for the coach in Washington, and celebrating with displays of military might. All while you shut up and pay your taxes, so nobody gets hurt.

Because, you know, times are so different now.

Please do celebrate the Fourth of July--for what it is. Independence Day. Go read the Declaration of Independence, and talk about it. It may not be a casual conversation, but it's one worth having.

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