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Post#16 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:25 pm

“…War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today…” — John F. Kennedy

“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with” Ron Paul


"False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, the most important of the code, will respect the less important and arbitrary ones, which can be violated with ease and impunity, and which, if strictly obeyed, would put an end to personal liberty... and subject innocent persons to all the vexations that the guilty alone ought to suffer? Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. They ought to be designated as laws not preventive but fearful of crimes, produced by the tumultuous impression of a few isolated facts, and not by thoughtful consideration of the inconveniences and advantages of a universal decree."

Cesare Beccaria, Italy, 1738-1794, author of "Of Crimes and Punishments", widely read by the founders of the United States.
comment:This is the position of modern 2nd amendment proponents. It has been demonstrably true for centuries. Laws primarily affect those who obey them. There are always people who are not deterred by threat of punishment, no matter how many laws are on the books.

"Jurors should acquit, even against the judge's instruction... if exercising their judgement with discretion and honesty they have a clear conviction the charge of the court is wrong." ~ Alexander Hamilton, 1804.

A good decision is based on knowledge and not on numbers. - Plato

“I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.”
- Robert A. Heinlein

"The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government. It is one of the high powers delegated directly to the citizen, and `is excepted out of the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed to infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of the lawmaking power."
— [Cockrum v. State, 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)]

"When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - When you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - When you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don�t protect you against them, but protect them against you - When you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - You may know that your society is doomed." -- Ayn Rand, "Atlas Shrugged", 1957

"Most of your patients get better no matter what you do to them." motto of Yale Medical School.

“The few who could understand the system will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of the people mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.”
~ John Sherman

“The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as ‘international bankers.’ This little coterie… run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen…[and] seizes…our executive officers… legislative bodies… schools… courts… newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.”
~ John F. Hylan, quotes about Rothschild


As a police officer, I saw how waging the war on drugs has cost a trillion dollars and thousands of lives but does nothing to reduce drug use. Should we discuss legalizing marijuana and other drugs, which would eliminate the violent criminal market? ~ question proposed to Obama froma member of Leap

"We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt." --Thomas Jefferson



"Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Thus the beneficiaries are spared the shame and danger that their acts would otherwise involve...
But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply.
See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them and gives it to the other persons to whom it doesn't belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime.
Then abolish that law without delay ... No legal plunder; this is the principle of justice, peace, order, stability, harmony and logic."-Frederic Bastiat



“All States are governed by a ruling class that is a minority of the population, and which subsists as a parasitic and exploitative burden upon the rest of society. Since its rule is exploitative and parasitic, the State must purchase the alliance of a group of “Court Intellectuals,” whose task is to bamboozle the public into accepting and celebrating the rule of its particular State. The Court Intellectuals have their work cut out for them. In exchange for their continuing work of apologetics and bamboozlement, the Court Intellectuals win their place as junior partners in the power, prestige, and loot extracted by the State apparatus from the deluded public.” ~ Murray Rothbard on the media government relationship



The principle, on which the war was waged by the North, was simply this: That men may rightfully be compelled to submit to, and support, a government that they do not want; and that resistance, on their part, makes them traitors and criminals.
No principle, that is possible to be named, can be more self-evidently false than this; or more self-evidently fatal to all political freedom. Yet it triumphed in the field, and is now assumed to be established. If it really be established, the number of slaves, instead of having been diminished by the war, has been greatly increased; for a man, thus subjected to a government that he does not want, is a slave. And there is no difference, in principle --- but only in degree --- between political and chattel slavery. The former, no less than the latter, denies a man's ownership of himself and the products of his labor; and [*iv] asserts that other men may own him, and dispose of him and his property, for their uses, and at their pleasure. ~ Lysander Spooner



" It isn't only Gestapo maniacs who do inhuman things to people. We [the CIA] are responsible for doing inhuman things on a massive scale to people all over the world."-- John Stockwell, former CIA official


'Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear-kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor-with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it by furnishing the exorbitant funds demanded. Yet, in retrospect, these disasters seem never to have happened, seem never to have been quite real." -- General Douglas MacArthur

“I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today — my own government.” ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Post#17 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:36 am

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people"
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Government is a broker in pillage, and every election is a sort of advance auction in stolen goods.H.L. Mencken
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"When the people clamor to be shielded from reality, when they praise their government for keeping things from them, when they choose to conduct their lives within the limits of whatever fantasy the government supplies, then they are no longer consenting to be governed, they are begging to be ruled."-- Michael Ventura
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"The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting." ~ Charles Bukowski

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In a police state like this, there are rules one should follow and approaches that should be taken, these valid questions can be answered with three simple steps:

Do no harm to another person or their property
Do not speak to the police except in as much as it is necessary to ensure you are not seen as the perpetrator
Never donate to nor support the police state and do not feed the “hero” worship mentality that exists
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"The state remains, as it was in the beginning, the common enemy of all well-disposed, industrious and decent men." ~ H.L. Mencken
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The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.


Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness
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"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." --Thomas Jefferson

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Presidents are nothing. ... the basic conflict in American politics is individualism vs. collectivism. ~ anon

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"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people." - Commander Bill Adama

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Armed people are free. No state can control those who have the machinery and the will to resist, no mob can take their liberty and property. And no 220-pound thug can threaten the well-being or dignity of a 110-pound woman who has two pounds of iron to even things out … People who object to weapons aren't abolishing violence, they're begging for rule by brute force, when the biggest, strongest animals among men were always automatically "right."

Guns ended that, and a social democracy is a hollow farce without an armed populace to make it work.

~ L. Neil Smith (from The Probability Broach)

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"The only kind of freedom that the mob can imagine is freedom to annoy and oppress its betters, and that is precisely the kind that we mainly have." ~ H.L. Mencken

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"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of rich countries and giving it to the rich people of poor countries." - Ron Paul

When our Southern heritage is slandered, never forget "Time wounds all heels". Rick

Misspending the public's money is one of the few bipartisan activities remaining in Washington.

. Why do those who object to tampering with the environment approve of tampering with the economy? Isn’t the economy also a fragile ecosystem where a sudden change can trigger a devastating chain reaction?

Ever noticed that for the past thirty years, we’ve been hearing we have less than ten years to save the planet?

If cutting out the middleman lowers the price, why are we paying the government to stand between us and the markets?

Youth ages and immaturity is (usually) outgrown,
Ignorance can be educated, and
Drunkenness sobered,
But STUPID LASTS FOREVER.
Aristophanes

The real problem in America is not so much what people DON'T know but, rather, what they're SURE they know that JUST AIN'T SO. Will Rogers
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Public servants of the Earth:
We are your Lords and Masters. We are our nobility, and you are our servants. You forget your place when you initiate force against us. You actions make us mindful of George Washington’s words, “Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.”

It is your personal choice to be a public servant: know your place.

Do you know that you have been living on money stolen from us, not honest wages? You have stolen more than we allow, even to our productive kine.

Do you know you have been living on force, not honest work? We now demand reason from you, not force. Do you know that to reclaim your lost nobility, you must resign from the service of this government that relies on force instead of reason?
Today, we invite you to rejoin us, and regain your lost nobility. - Iloilo Marguerite Jones

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“The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.” George Washington



“The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves.” George Washington

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Post#18 » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:11 am

The aim of public education is not to spread enlightenment at all; it is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed and train a standardized citizenry, to down dissent and originality. That is its aim in the United States, whatever the pretensions of politicians, pedagogues, and other such mountebanks, and that is its aim everywhere else...Their purpose, in brief, is to make docile and patriotic citizens, to pile up majorities, and to make John Doe and Richard Doe as nearly alike, in their everyday reactions and ways of thinking, as possible.- H.L. Mencken

"Some people say I go too far in wanting to cut the government. They say I want to throw out the baby with the bathwater. But here's what they don't understand: It's Rosemary's baby." -- Harry Browne

Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards. Soren Kierkegaard


"One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation." ~ Thomas B. Reed

Confederate General R.E. Lee in a letter to Lord Acton explaining the Civil War in 1866: “The consolidation of the states into one vast republic, SURE TO BE AGGRESSIVE ABROAD AND DESPOTIC AT HOME, will be the precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those who have preceded”.



"... When you see that trading is done not by consent but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal not in goods but in favors - when you see that men get rich more easily by graft than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - then you will know that your society is doomed..." ...Ann Rand

The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. Plato

"The primary function of the independent juror is not, as many think, to dispense punishment to fellow citizens accused of breaking various laws, but rather to protect fellow citizens from tyrannical abuses of power by the government. The Constitution guarantees you the right to trial by jury. This means that government must bring its case before a jury of The People if government wants to deprive any person of life, liberty, or property. Jurors can say no to government tyranny by refusing to convict."

“The biggest big business in America is not steel, automobiles, or television. It is the manufacture, refinement and distribution of anxiety.”—Eric Sevareid, This Is Eric Sevareid (1964)

U.S. v. DOUGHERTY, 473 F.2d. 1113, 1139 (1972): "The pages of history shine on instances of the jury's exercise of its prerogative to disregard instructions of the judge...."

"I’m not a liberal so I have a poor grasp of stuff I don’t know anything about." -- P. J. O'Rourke

"For somehow this is tyranny's disease, to trust no friends."
"Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny." ~ Aeschylus 525-456 BC

"The voice of protest, of warning, of appeal is never more needed than when the clamor of fife and drum, echoed by the press and too often by the pulpit, is bidding all men fall in and keep step and obey in silence the tyrannous word of command. Then, more than ever, it is the duty of the good citizen not to be silent." ~ Charles Eliot Norton

"Petty laws breed great crimes." ~ Ouida

"Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants – but debt is the money of slaves."
–Norm Franz, Money and Wealth in the New Millenium

"Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people, in order to betray them." Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833

"Some writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; the former promotes our happiness positively by uniting our affections, the latter negatively by restraining our vices. The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions. The first is a patron, the last a punisher." ~ Thomas Paine

If taxation without consent is not robbery, then any band of robbers have only to declare themselves a government, and all their robberies are legalized. ~ Lysander Spooner

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Post#19 » Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:24 am

"It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free; their passions forge their fetters". ` anon

"[The Third World War] is a war that has been fought by the United States against the Third World. It might also be called the Forty--Year War, like the Thirty--Year and Hundred--Year Wars in Europe, for this one began when the CIA was founded in 1947 and continues today. As wars go, it has been the second or third most destructive of human life in all of history, after World War I and World War II." -- John Stockwell, former CIA official and author

“In politics stupidity is not a handicap”, ~ Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821.)

Under every government the [last] resort of the people, is an appeal to the sword; whether to defend themselves against the open attacks of a foreign enemy, or to check the insidious encroachments of domestic foes. Whenever a people ... entrust the defence of their country to a regular, standing army, composed of mercenaries, the power of that country will remain under the direction of the most wealthy citizens.--attributed to unknown framer of the Constitution


If centralism is ultimately to prevail; if our entire system of free Institutions as established by our common ancestors is to be subverted, and an Empire is to be established in their stead; if that is to be the last scene of the great tragic drama now being enacted: then, be assured, that we of the South will be acquitted, not only in our own consciences, but in the judgment of mankind, of all responsibility for so terrible a catastrophe, and from all guilt of so great a crime against humanity.


--Alexander Stephens, Vice President of the Confederate States of America

"History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people."Martin Luther King, Jr.

…the Northern onslaught upon slavery is no more than a piece of specious humbug disguised to conceal its desire for economic control of the United States.…Union means so many millions a year lost to the South; secession means loss of the same millions to the North. The love of money is the root of this as many, many other evils. The quarrel between the North and South is, as it stands, solely a fiscal quarrel. ~ Charles Dickens

"On November 1, the General Assembly of the United Nations voted to reaffirm the Outer Space Treaty--the fundamental international law that establishes that space should be reserved for peaceful uses... Only two nations declined to support this bill--the United States and Israel." -- The Progressive magazine, January 2000, p27

"Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness." -- George Orwell, author of the book"1984"

"The safest course is to do nothing against one's conscience. With this secret, we can enjoy life and have no fear from death." ~ Voltaire

"The unequal fiscal action of the government is to divide the community into two great classes; one consisting of those who, in reality, pay the taxes ... and the other, of those who are the recipients of their proceeds." John C. Calhoun

"While we see the course of the final abolition of human slavery is still onward, and give it the aid of our prayers, let us leave the progress as well as the results in the hands of Him who, chooses to work by slow influences, and with whom a thousand years are but as a single day." ~ General Robert E. Lee

“Gingrich 2012: He will always love America. Unless it gets cancer.” Alex Knapp, suggesting a campaign slogan for Newt.

I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested.
- Maj. Gen. Smedley Darlington Butler

"The more you observe politics, the more you've got to admit that each party is worse than the other."
-Will Rogers

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? [...] The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!" ~Alexander Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago (Chapter 1 "Arrest")

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Post#20 » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:39 am

"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." -- Louis Brandeis, Supreme Court justice from 1916--1939

Today’s intrepid White House pool reporter, The Hill’s Sam Youngman, on the state of the negotiations: “DC is a big bag of suck that couldn’t solve a rubik’s cube if it were all one color.”

"Society in every state is a blessing, but government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one." --Thomas Paine



"U.S. Ieaders commit war crimes as a matter of institutional necessity, as their imperial role calls for keeping subordinate peoples in their proper place and assuring a"favorable climate of investment"everywhere. They do this by using their economic power, but also (by means of"bombs bursting in the air"and) by supporting Diem, Mobutu, Pinochet, Suharto, Savimbi, Marcos, Fujimori, Salinas, and scores of similar leaders. War crimes also come easily because U.S. Ieaders consider themselves to be the vehicles of a higher morality and truth and can operate in violation of law without cost. It is also immensely helpful that their mainstream media agree that their country is above the law and will support and rationalize each and every venture and the commission of war crimes." -- Edward Herman, Z magazine Dec 1999 p41


"The doctrine of non-resistance against arbitrary power and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind."

--New Hampshire Constitution

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is now controlled by its system of credit. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world -- no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." -- Woodrow Wilson 1919

"The true character of liberty is independence, maintained by force." ~ Voltaire

"Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." ~ Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850)

I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me. ~ Dudley Field Malone

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Benjamin Franklin

"A discriminating irreverence is the creator and protector of human liberty." ~ Mark Twain

“Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it. Yet, in retrospect, these disasters seem never to have happened, seem never to have been quite real.” ~ General Douglas MacArthur

"The only part of the conduct of anyone for which he is amenable to society is that which concerns others. In the part which merely concerns himself, his independence is, of right, absolute. Over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign." ~ John Stuart Mill

When, after many battles past,
Both, tired with blows, make peace at last,
What is it, after all, the people get?
Why! Taxes, widows, wooden legs and debt.—Samuel B. Pettengill



"Equality is what does not exist among equals." e.e. cummings



This topic brings me to that worst outcrop of the herd nature, the military system, which I abhor. That a man can take pleasure in marching in formation to the strains of a band is enough to make me despise him. He has only been given his big brain by mistake; a backbone was all he needed. This plague-spot of civilization ought to be abolished with all possible speed. Heroism by order, senseless violence, and all the pestilent nonsense that does by the name of patriotism - how I hate them! War seems to me a mean, contemptible thing: I would rather be hacked in pieces than take part in such an abominable business. And yet so high, in spite of everything, is my opinion of the human race that I believe this bogey would have disappeared long ago, had the sound sense of the nations not been systematically corrupted by commercial and political interests acting through the schools and the Press. ~ Albert Einstein


A government that does not trust it's law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms is itself unworthy of trust.
--James Madison



And the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the purpose of
enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder their people, are among the
greatest villains that the world has ever seen. And they as much deserve to
be hunted and killed (if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave
traders, robbers, or pirates that ever lived --Lysander Spooner

"A criminal is a person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient capital to form a corporation." -- Howard Scott

“America doesn’t exist anymore. It’s the United States. America, which
was basically an idea, a concept, is dead and gone. The United States is
just another of 200 awful little nation-states that have spread across
the face of the earth like a skin disease. There’s no longer any
difference that I can tell between the U.S. and any other country.”~ Doug Casey



"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office" ~Aesop

"The true character of liberty is independence, maintained by force." ~ Voltaire



"Pick an issue – trade, immigration, terrorism, marriage, education. In just about every case, the left has staked out a revolutionary program that means the continuing destruction of our traditions and the erosion of our liberties. What is offered by conservatives? A little less of the same, a little easing off the accelerator lest we get to Hell ahead of schedule. They don’t want same-sex marriages, only civil unions; they don’t want to repatriate immigrants who commit crimes or go on welfare, but they are willing to beef up the border a little; they are even unwilling to even consider dismantling the disastrous experiment in government education, but they would like to give parents the right to decide which expensive ignorance-factory to send their kids to." Thomas Fleming



"Find out just what people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress." ~ Frederick Douglass

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Post#21 » Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:23 pm

“[Our situation] illustrates the American idea that governments rest on the consent of the governed, and that it is the right of the people to alter or abolish them whenever they become destructive of the ends for which they were established.” Jefferson Davis

"We started off trying to set up a small anarchist community, but people wouldn't obey the rules." -- Alan Bennett


“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” ~ Albert Camus

There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.-John Adams, 1826


"We feel that our cause is just and holy; we protest solemnly in the face of mankind that we desire peace at any sacrifice save that of honour and independence; we ask no conquest, no aggrandizement, no concession of any kind from the States with which we were lately confederated; all we ask is to be let alone; that those who never held power over us shall not now attempt our subjugation by arms." President Jefferson Davis - April 29, 1861


“The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can ‘throw the rascals out’ at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy” (Georgetown University Professor Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, 1966.)


"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences." — C.S. Lewis

In these sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution, with all its faults, — if they are such; because I think a general Government necessary for us, and there is no form of government but what may be a blessing to the people, if well administered; and I believe, farther, that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and [but it] can only end in despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government, [they] being incapable of any other. – Benjamin Franklin speaking to the Constitutional Convention (June 28, 1787)


"To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the highest skill.
To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill."
SUN-TZU


"I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time". H.L. Mencken

Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free than Christianity has made them good. ~ H.L. Mencken


"If people let the government decide what foods they can eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson


"If you don’t read the newspaper you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper you are misinformed”. Mark Twain

"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it." ~ Mark Twain

"Most bad government has grown out of too much government." -- Thomas Jefferson
“If you think you have a right to force me to pay for your health care, then why don’t you have a right to force me to pick your cotton?” --Jeffery Quick

I have slipped the surly bonds of earth And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings ~ anon

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. ~ Plato

"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president." anonymous Czech

So easily do weak men put in high positions turn villains. ~ Dmitry Pisrey


"A professional politician is a professionally dishonorable man. In order to get anywhere near high office he has to make so many compromises and submit to so many humiliations that he becomes indistinguishable from a streetwalker." ~ H.L. Mencken"

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Post#22 » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:44 pm

"America is disintegrating. The centrifugal forces pulling us apart are growing inexorably. What unites us is dissolving. And this is true of Western Civilization. ... Meanwhile, the state is failing in its most fundamental duties. It is no longer able to defend our borders, balance our budgets, or win our wars." Pat Buchanan

“We are trying to create a nation that has never before existed, of all the races, tribes, cultures and creeds of Earth, where all are equal. In this utopian drive for the perfect society of our dreams we are killing the real country we inherited." Pat Buchanan, Suicide of a Superpower

"Conceit, arrogance, and egotism are the essentials of patriotism. ... Patriotism assumes that our globe is divided into little spots, each one surrounded by an iron gate. Those who have had the fortune of being born on some particular spot, consider themselves better, nobler, grander, more intelligent than the living beings inhabiting any other spot. It is, therefore, the duty of everyone living on that chosen spot to fight, kill, and die in the attempt to impose his superiority upon all the others." ~Emma Goldman, Patriotism: a menace to liberty

“It is one of the happy incidents of the federal system that a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country.”~ from a 1932 dissent by Justice Louis Brandeis: ( I wish that were still true. But, alas, the feddies have taken total control.)

"The great thing about candy is that it has no redeeming social characteristics. Its only purpose is to please. To taste so sweet and so good that we simply have to go back for more." - Irena Chalmers, author 1935


I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution, and I do not believe that the power and duty of the general government ought to be extended to the relief of individual suffering which is in no manner properly related to the public service or benefit. A prevalent tendency to disregard the limited mission of this power and duty should, I think, be steadfastly resisted, to the end that the lesson should be constantly enforced that, though the people support the government, the government should not support the people. ~ President Grover Cleveland vetoed a bill in 1887 thjat would have provided seed to drought-stricken farmers in Texas


"Democracy means simply the bludgeoning of the people by the people for the people." ~ Oscar Wilde

Optimists are buying stocks. Realists are buying ammo


"Great spirits have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly. " - Albert Einstein

"If I could rest anywhere, it would be in Arkansas, where the men are of the real half-horse, half-alligator breed such as grows nowhere else on the face of the universal earth." Davy Crockett


"Those who have been intoxicated with power... can
never willingly abandon it."
-- Edmund Burke

"Socialism needs two legs on which to stand; a right and a left.
While appearing to be in complete opposition to one another,
they both march in the same direction."
-- Paul Proctor

"To add insult to injury, where do you think all the money went? To Swiss bank accounts. The Mubarak family has 40, 50, 60 billion OF YOUR MONEY stashed away in other countries. It used to be that Conservatives were against foreign aid. I'm still against foreign aid for EVERYBODY. Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country and giving it to the rich people of a poor country."
Congressman Ron Paul, Texas

"Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary." ~ Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, Satyagraha Leaflet No. 13 (3rd of May, 1919)

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Post#23 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:32 am

If the South should lose, it means that the history of the heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers, will be impressed by all of the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision.
-- Major General Patrick Cleburne


"I hope the day will never come that my grandsons will be ashamed to own that I was a Confederate Soldier."
The Confederacy had no better soldiers
than the Arkansans--fearless, brave, and oftentimes courageous beyond
prudence. Dickart History of Kershaws Brigade.



We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office.– Aesop

"History is fables agreed upon." -- Francois Voltaire, French philosopher and author, 1694--1778




"Any five-year old boy knows that if you put ten marbles into a tin can, you can only take ten marbles back out. Global bankers operate on the belief that they can put ten marbles (dollars) into a tin can (the world) and magically get 11 marbles back out. Thus, the bankers are dumber than five-year old boys! But unlike five-year old boys, the bankers will take your home, your business, and your nation when they don't get that eleventh marble! And after all that mayhem brought down on the occupants of the tin can there still will be no eleventh marble. It does not exist. It never did, and it never will. That is the ultimate doom of debt-based currency systems. In ages to come economists will look back at this failed experiment in debt-based currency and dump it into the same catagory of human stupidity as Tulipmania and the Great South Seas Company." -- Michael Rivero



Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary.
Mahatma Gandhi, 'Satyagraha Leaflet No. 13,' May 3, 1919



"Man had better be without education than be educated by their rulers." ~ Thomas Hodgskin

"Contempt of court - Where a black-robed tyrant justifies contempt, in spades, by imprisoning without trial someone who refused to properly bow in His presence." -- Bill St. Clair

"When all government...in little as in great things...shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power; it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another, and will become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we separated." ~ Thomas Jefferson

"Sometimes paranoia's just having all the facts." William S. Burroughs

"No matter where you turn, those guys [financial sector] have already bought both sides." - Cenk Uygur, reporting at Occupy Wall Street

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron." -- Dwight D. Eisenhower



There are no warlike peoples- just warlike leaders. ~ Ralph Bunche


“The only freedom which deserves the name is that of pursuing our own good in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it. Each is the proper guardian of his own health, whether bodily, or mental and spiritual. Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the rest. ~ John Stuart Mill

What has happened to us that we no longer seem to elect leaders at all levels of government who create confidence? Regrettably, in many situations, the very best people, the ablest people, will not consider running for elective office. They simply do not want to subject themselves and their families to the slings, stones and arrows that are hurled at candidates every day of the year. ~ Ed Koch/Newsmax



"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery." --Winston Churchill





"United States of America. Founded by pissed off taxpayers with rifles!" ~ anon



When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing; when you see that money is flowing to those who deal not in goods, but in favors; when you see that men get rich more easily by graft than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them, but protect them against you... you may know that your society is doomed. ~ Ann Rand

"Associate yourself with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation for 'tis better to be alone than in bad company...Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~ George Washington

Taxpayer.."someone who works for the federal government but doesn’t have to take the civil service examination.” ... Ronald Reagan

"The Federal Reserve is a system that creates money out of thin air to loan to the people, but refuses to allow the people to create money out of thin air to pay them back!" -- Michael Rivero


"These sectors of the doctrinal system serve to divert the unwashed masses and reinforce basic social values: passivity, submissiveness to authority, the overriding virtue of greed and personal gain, lack of concern for others, fear of real or imagined enemies, etc. The goal is to keep the bewildered herd bewildered." --Dr. Noam Chomsky, from What Uncle Sam Really Wants , censored ex parte from WUTK radio's Alternative Nation, Summer 2001

Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.C.S. Lewis


“The only freedom which deserves the name, is that of pursuing our own good in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it. Each is the proper guardian of his own health, whether bodily, or mental and spiritual. Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the rest.~ John Stuart Mills



"The politician attempts to remedy the evil by increasing the very thing that caused the evil in the first place: legal plunder." ~ Frederic Bastiat


"Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence." -John Locke


"Don't ever think you know what's right for the other person. He might start thinking he knows what's right for you." ~ Paul Williams


"Non-cooperation with evil is as much a duty as cooperation with good." ~ Mohandas Gandhi


Sheldon Richman in the Nov. 1988 issue of Liberty: "The tragedy of Vietnam is not that 'we' did not win it. It is that Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, and their people were so presumptuous as to think that Vietnam was theirs to dispose of."

"If [a] book be false in its facts, disprove them; if false in its reasoning, refute it. But for God's
sake, let us freely hear both sides if we choose." -- Thomas Jefferson to N. G. Dufief, 1814

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Post#24 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:26 pm

Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly...and applying the wrong remedies. - Grouch Marx

"One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation." ~ Thomas B. Reed

"There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword.. The other is by debt." --John Adams 1826

"I am surrounded by priests who repeat incessantly that their kingdom is not of this world, and yet they lay their hands on everything they can get." -- Napoleon Bonaparte

"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere, so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." -- Woodrow Wilson

"Don't be depressed. Never be ashamed of being who you are. Remember that polite, courteous, professional, and socially adjusted people are bombing villages, slaughtering children, and putting your neighbours in cages. It is not healthy to be well-adjusted to a fundamentally sick society."
- Jim Davidson

The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.
H. L. Mencken

All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land. —WILLIAM KINGDON CLIFFORD

"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans," ~ John Lennon

"What light is to the eyes – what air is to the lungs – what love is to the heart, liberty is to the soul of man." ~ Robert G. Ingersoll

It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. ~ Sir Noel Coward


I got a nice wall hanging for Christmas;

"Error of Opinion may be tolerated where Reason is left free to combat it". Thomas Jefferson

and another on the man I admire; at a dinner with a few of Americas leading intellectuals;

I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered at the White House - with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone.
John F. Kennedy


"The only freedom which can last is a freedom embodied somewhere, rooted in a history, located in space, sanctioned by genealogy, and blessed by a religious establishment. The only equality which abstract rights, insisted upon outside the context of politics, are likely to provide is the equality of universal slavery. It is a lesson which Western man is only now beginning to learn." Mel Bradford



"You can drive Nature out with a pitchfork, but she’ll come running back." Horace


"The love of liberty is the love of others; the love of power is the love of ourselves." ~ William Hazlitt

It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance. Murry Rothbard



"You can't say civilization don't advance...in every war they kill you in a new way."Will Rogers

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Post#25 » Wed May 02, 2012 2:18 pm

"The ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination." -- Voltaire


Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Nations and peoples who forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms. — Robert Heinlein

"No government nowadays admits that it maintains an army so as to satisfy it's occasional thirst for conquest. The army is supposed to be for defense, that morality which sanctions self protection is called upon to be it's advocate. This is how all states now confront one another. They presuppose an evil disposition in their neighbor and a benevolent disposition in themselves. This presupposition, however, is a piece of inhumanity as bad as, if not worse than, a war would be. The doctrine of the army as a means of self-defense must be renounced just as completely as the thirst for conquest. And perhaps there will come a great day on which a nation distinguished for wars and victories and for the highest development of military discipline and thinking, and accustomed to making the heaviest sacrifices on behalf of these things, will cry of its own free will: "We shall shatter the sword" - and demolish its entire military machine down to its last foundations. To disarm while being the best armed, out of an elevation of sensibility - that is the means to real peace. Better to perish than to hate and fear, and twofold better to perish than to make oneself hated and feared - this must one day become the supreme maxim of every individual state!" - Friedrich Nietzsche

"The care of every man's soul belongs to himself. But what if he neglect the care of it? Well what if he neglect the care of his health or his estate, which would more nearly relate to the state. Will the magistrate make a law that he not be poor or sick? Laws provide against injury from others; but not from ourselves. God himself will not save men against their wills." ~ Thomas Jefferson

The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them. Thomas Jefferson

"Here's your enemy for this week, the government says. And some gullible Americans click their heels and salute - often without knowing who or even where the enemy of the week is." ~ Charley Reese

By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise. - Adolf Hitler

All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume. ~ Noam Chomsky

Clever tyrants are never punished. - Voltaire

"It is particularly bizarre to hear the logic of the administration claiming the right to target its citizens according to some secret selection process, when we justified our attacks against Iraq and Libya because their leaders supposedly were targeting their own citizens!" Ron Paul

The man
Of virtuous soul commands not nor obeys.
Power like a desolating pestilence
Pollutes whate’er it touches; and obedience,
Bane of all genius, virtue, freedom, truth,
Makes slaves of men, and of the human frame
A mechanized automaton.
– Percy Bysshe Shelley, Queen Mab, Canto III (1813)

It is my rule never to lose my temper till would be detrimental to keep it. ~ Sean O'casey
"Whenever is found what is called a paternal government, there is found state education. It has been discovered that the best way to ensure implicit obedience is to commence tyranny in the nursery." ~ Benjamin Disraeli

"Only the government would believe that you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket." -- Native American saying

"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery." ~ Winston Churchill

"Look, it's simple: the government uses reliable and trustworthy processes in deciding whether to drone-strike you, just like the processes they use in running Amtrak, choosing solar investments, and managing the economy." --

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