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Germar Rudolf detained & arrested getting the ZUNDEL tre

Post#1 » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:25 pm

Looks like the zionazis are fucking another friend as in Germar Rudolf and giving him the Zundel treatment. These POS should be shot on sight for their criminal actions which amount to nothing more then KIDNAPPING. When they come for me, there will be a few of them going back in body bags.
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As of November 7th 2006
Please be advised that Germar Rudolf is not going to Mannheim but rather to Heidelberg - a smaller and nicer jail where male prisoners get their clothes washed by female prisoners!

Germar Rudolf
Oberer Fauler Pelz 1
D- 69117 Heidelberg

Germany

Tel: 06221 9843
Fax: 06221 181774

NEW ADDRESS as of 9-11-6
Germar Rudolf
Herzogenriederstr. 111
68169 Mannheim
Germany


OLD ADDRESS Since 17-11-05 new address for Germar:

JVA Stuttgart,
Asperger Str. 60,
D-70439 Stuttgart
Germany

Fax: 0049-711-8020-2799

Chief: Mr. Schumacher, Fax 0049-711-8020-2049


The jail ("JVA" = Justizvollzugsanstalt) was established as
high-security-detention after 1968 in connection with the terrorist movement
RAF.


Gruß
Thora Pedersen


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Subject: Germar is in trouble


Hello


This is Germar's wife.

We went to an appointment at immigration today to have an interview about whether or not our marriage is legitimate. It is typical for the INS to check in with a couple in one year to see how they prove that they are living together as man and wife. We passed with no comment.

However, when we were ready to leave, two men from the department of deportation showed up and escorted us upstairs. Then they told Germar that he missed a court appointment and was going to be detained for missing that appointment.

Germar and his attorney said that they never received notice (it is required to send notice to counsel as well as the petitioner). They asked for a copy of the letter and that question was never answered. They also told the men that the 11th circuit federal court had ruled a stay of further action and that was currently in effect, which means the INS is not allowed to rule on anything until the federal courts rule on them (tentative date for that is Jan).

The men said they would review the case and two hours later, they came and took him away.

Our lawyer is working to get the paperwork from the 11th court to show the INS here, which they say they will release him. Who knows.

I am writing because once Germar figured out what they were doing he told me to get in touch with you to decide between Arthur Butz and you how you wanted to handle this.

The best case scenario is that all the paperwork from the 11th comes and the INS quits playing around and releases him until the courts rule. They could also detain Germar until the hearing with the 11th circuit in January. They, of course, could also deport him to Germany, even though they are not allowed to do that. I don't put anything past them, given this current action which is completely outrageous and against the law.

If this thing is fixed in a few days, then I see no real problem. If not, then Germar has asked me to contact supporters to let them know about this and provide any help possible.

If this looks long term, then I am to call people that have been pre-notified to continue his work in his absence. For now, the note says, "notify Wiking and tell what happened." I was also to inform Arthur, which I have done. Your must decide whether or not to send a note to "Revisionist news" Arthur has already said he feels anyone who can be mobilized should be mobilized. I await instructions from you as to what to do next.

In the note, Germar has also given me access to his accounts and passwords. His attorney is working to get a power of attorney in my name as well, so for now nothing is locked up. What should I do?

Germar said he would call me collect when he is processed and let me know where he is. Do you have any questions or comments to pass along?

I look forward to hearing from you asap. Please contact me via chp and put in the subject line: 'to Germar's wife' so I can sort out which email is yours.

Thank you.

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Germar Rudolf's situation

Post#2 » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:12 am

Germar Rudolf's situation

From: ArtButz
Subject: Germar Rudolf's situation

22 October 2005

Friends:

Here is a summary of Germar Rudolf's situation, based on my telephone conversations with him from jail. This is, up to my abilities to transcribe accurately, his account, not mine. He wants it to propagate widely as an e-mail and web postings.

On Oct. 19 Germar and his wife had a marriage interview at the Chicago office of the INS (Immigration and Naturalization Service). It went well and ended with the INS certifying that their marriage was real. As they were about to leave two officers of the INS appeared and claimed that Germar had been sent a letter instructing him to appear at their Chicago office for photographing and fingerprinting, and that he had not complied. Neither Germar nor his lawyer received such a letter, and they have still not been shown a copy of it. The failure to appear would not in itself, however have brought any drastic action; in fact, the INS had had him photographed and fingerprinted long ago at the FBI office in Huntsville. What exacerbated the situation was that recently the German government had made its second request for his extradition and some clerk at the INS, assuming the matter involved a real criminal case, flagged his file. I commented that that is the charitable interpretation. In any case, Germar was detained and sent to a jail about 50 miles from Chicago.

A 1960 law specified that marriage to a US citizen is a valid basis for an adjustment of status for somebody involved in deportation proceedings, even if the marriage takes place during the proceedings. However since 1999 the government has been trying to act as though the law does not exist and has succeeded in this to some extent, getting a favorable ruling in one federal circuit and adverse rulings in three others (a "circuit" is a geographical sub-division of the US, defined only for purposes of administration of federal law). The 11th circuit court in Atlanta, which has Germar's case, has not yet ruled on this legal issue. Normally such a situation results in the matter being appealed to the Supreme Court, which is there to resolve contradictory lower court decisions. However subjects in deportation cases have been poor people who could not begin to mount a challenge in the Supreme Court. That is why the government has not been challenged on this since 1999. The government knows that it would lose in the Supreme Court.

The 11th circuit court wants to hear this case to its conclusion but the highest levels of the executive branch in Washington, in the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Justice, have now intervened and taken over the case from the INS. How the matter passed from an anonymous clerk at the INS to the highest levels of the executive branch is unknown. In view of developments this past week the court has, apparently only verbally, given the INS until Oct. 26 to file its arguments on why it should be allowed to take over Germar's case, presumably to deport him forthwith. Germar's lawyers then have until Nov. 2 to file his arguments. The court will probably rule later in November.

The November ruling will be on whether the court's process will remain in place, or the executive branch will take over. Therefore it appears likely that Germar will win in November, as the court has expressed a wish to follow this case all the way to its conclusion. Why would it rule that its own deliberations are unimportant or irrelevant?

Assuming the November ruling is favorable, there is still likely a court hearing around January, which will decide two questions. First, is Germar entitled to political asylum? Second, if Germar is not entitled to political asylum, then is he entitled to an adjustment of status based on his marriage?

I commented on the question of publicity, which Germar is skeptical of but which I believe may be necessary to effectively raise funds in the US. He does not have any name recognition here. Above all, Germar and his lawyers do not want angry denunciation of the INS and/or government. Public demonstrations outside the INS or the court could be fatal.

At present his business operation is shut down and it is not possible to buy books from his website. However the website is still functioning. Germar has arranged for certain others to take over some of the publishing and business operations if he is deported.

The jail Germar is staying in is not an unpleasant place for a jail, and has an atmosphere resembling an army barracks. It has the lowest level of security and there are TV and games for the inmates' amusement, and books for their study. Food is decent.

Best regards,
Arthur R. Butz

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Post#3 » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:13 am

Germar Rudolf's situation - letter from wife - in German


From: Kalli
Subject: Re: Germar Rudolf's situation

Geschickt am: Donnerstag, den 20. Oktober 2005

Hallo

Hier ist Germars Ehefrau. Wir hatten heute bei der Einwanderungsbehörde einen Termin bezügl. eines Interviews, das in Frage stellte, ob unsere Ehe legitim ist oder nicht. Es ist bezeichnend, daß die INS (Behörde für Einwanderer) ein Ehepaar nach einem Jahr des Zusammenlebens herbestellt, um es einer Begutachtung zu unterziehen. Wir brachten das Interview ohne weiteren Kommentar [seitens der Behörden] hinter uns. Als wir jedoch im Begriff waren zu gehen, erschienen zwei Männer von der Deportationsabteilung und unterwiesen uns, ihnen nach oben zu folgen. Daraufhin informierten die Beamten Germar, er habe einen Gerichtstermin versäumt und werde demzufolge bis auf Weiteres festgehalten. Germar sowie Germars Rechtsanwalt erwiderten, keiner von ihnen habe eine Aufforderung zu dem [angeblichen] Gerichtstermin erhalten (es ist erforderlich, dem Berater, sowie dem Antragsteller eine [schriftliche] Aufforderung zukommen zu lassen). Demgemäß forderten Germar und sein Rechtsanwalt, Einsicht in die Kopie des Schreibens, ein Ersuchen, das ignoriert wurde. Ferner informierten Germar und sein Rechtsanwalt betreffende Männer, der 11. Gerichtshof habe derzeit stattfindende Verhandlungen gemaßregelt, was bedeutet, daß es der Einwanderungsbehörde (INS) während dieser Verhandlungsperiode untersagt ist, regelnd einzugreifen. Besagter gerichtlicher Termin wurde versuchsweise auf Januar [2006] verlegt. Die INS-Beamten antworteten, sie würden den Fall untersuchen. Nach zwei Stunden kamen sie zurück, nahmen Germar fest und führten ihn ab. Auf INS- Anweisung, soll unser Rechtsanwalt die Dokumente vom 11. Gerichtshof der INS vorlegen, woraufhin Germar voraussichtlich freigelassen werden kann. Aber wer weiß das schon. Ich schreibe das alles, da Germar, nachdem er ahnte, was gespielt wird, mir dazu den Auftrag gab.

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Germar Rudolf's situation/Übertragung auf Deutsch

22. Oktober 2005

Freunde:

Hiermit eine Zusammenfassung von Germar Rudolfs Lage im Gefängnis, die auf jüngsten Telefongesprächen mit ihm beruht. Ich gebe hier präzise seine Beschreibung seiner gegenwärtigen Lage kund und komme gleichzeitig Germars Wunsch entgegen, diese Info weit und breit via E-Post mittels Foren, Netzseiten, sowie privat zu verbreiten.

Am 19. Oktober 2005, hatten Germar und seine Ehefrau ein Interview mit den INS-Behörden (Einwanderungsbehörden/Immigration and Naturalization Service) in Chicago. Alles lief so weit glatt und endete damit, daß die INS-Behörden die Ehe als real bestätigten. Als sie gerade im Begriff waren zu gehen, erschienen zwei Beamte der INS, die behaupteten, Germar sei der Aufforderung der INS, - zwecks Fingerabdrücken und Passbilddokumentation - im Chicago Amt der INS zu erscheinen, nicht nachgekommen. Fakt ist jedoch, weder Germar noch sein Rechtsanwalt haben einen solchen Brief erhalten und bis heute haben sie eine Kopie besagten Briefes nicht zu Gesicht bekommen. Fakt ist auch, die INS in Huntsville haben längst seine Fingerabdrücke und Fotos in ihrer Kartei abgelegt. Die ganze Situation wurde dadurch verschlimmert, weil irgend ein Beamter der INS, - der einfach annahm, die Sache sei kriminell -, Germars persönliche Kartei "beflaggt" hatte. Auf jeden Fall sitzt Germar derzeit in einem Gefängnis etwa 50 Meilen außerhalb Chicagos.

Noch 1960 galt das Gesetz, daß die Ehe mit einem/einer US-BürgerIN aufgrund einer Deportation gerechtfertigt ist, auch, wenn die Ehe während der Verhandlung einer solchen stattfindet. Seit 1999 versucht nun die Regierung so zu tun, als gelte dieses Gesetz nicht länger und hatte diesbezüglich auch schon gewissen Erfolg zu verzeichen. Der 11. Gerichtshof in Atlanta, der Germars Fall auf Akte hat, hat bisher noch nicht darüber gesetzlich entschieden. Normalerweise resultiert eine derartige Sache aus einem Appell an das Hohe Gericht, das in der Regel über die unteren Gerichtshöfe entscheidet. Es war jedoch bisher so, daß das Thema Deportation zumeist arme Leute (be)traf, die schlichtweg das Hohe Gericht nicht herausfordern können. Deshalb wurde das Hohe Gericht in dieser Angelegenheit seit 1999 nicht weiter herausgefordert. Die Regierung ist sich aber im Klaren, daß sie diesbezüglich rechtlich gegenüber dem Hohen Gericht verlieren würde.

Das 11. Kreisgericht beabsichtigt den Fall bis zum Ende anzuhören, allerdings haben sich nun die höchsten Instanzen der Exekutive in Washington, nämlich die Abteilung der "Heimatfront für Sicherheit", eingemischt und Germars Fall quasi von der INS übernommen. Wie diese Angelegenheit von einem anonymen Beamten der INS, zu der höchsten Instanz in Washington geleitet wurde, ist nicht bekannt. Anbetrachts der Entwicklungen der letzten Woche, hat das Gericht - wie es scheint bisher nur mündlich - der INS bis zum 26. Oktober für eine Erklärung des Grundes der Übernahme des Falls Germar zugestanden. Es besteht die Annahme, daß die INS beabsichtigt, Germar nach Deutschland abzuschieben. Germars Rechtsanwälte haben bis zum 2. November Zeit, seine Argumente einzubringen.

Die Entscheidung im November läuf daraufhin hinaus, ob die Gerichtsverhandlung so weiterläuft, oder ob das Hohe Gericht den Fall übernimmt. Es ist jedoch nicht auszuschließen, daß Germar im November gewinnt, da das Gericht ausdrücklich diesen Fall zu Ende verhandeln will.

Nimmt man an, daß das Resultat im November ein positives ist, wird noch immer ein Verhör im Januar stattfinden, welches entscheidet, ob Germar ein Recht auf polit. Asyl hat oder nicht. Und wenn nicht, ob zumindest hinsichtlich seiner Ehe, eine Anpassung seines Status' gerechtfertigt ist.
Wichtig ist zu vermerken, das weder Germar noch seine Rechtsanwälte irgendwelche negativen Ausbrüche über die INS oder die US-Regierung wünschen. Öffentliche Demonstrationen vor dem INS Gebäude könnten sich fatal für ihn auswirken.

Derzeit ist Germars Geschäfts- Unternehmen nicht zugänglich, auch ist es nicht möglich, Bücher über seine Netzseite zu bestellen. Aber immerhin funktioniert noch die Netzseite. Germar hatte für ein solches Scenario vorgesorgt. Vertrauenspersonen werden seinen Verlag weiterführen, sollte er deportiert werden.

Das Gefängnis, in dem er sich derzeit befindet, ist nicht übel. Es hat Ähnlichkeit mit einer Kaserne. Die Sicherheitsmaßnahmen sind dort nicht allzu streng und hart. Es gibt TV, sowie games für die Gefangenen, auch Bücher. Das Essen ist nicht schlecht.

Grüße
Arthur R. Butz

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Post#4 » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:16 am

From: Bocage [mailto:bocage
Subject: Germar Rudolf en prison!!!

Voici la traduction - rapide - d'un compte rendu du professeur américain
Arthur R. Butz, auteur de "La Mystification du XXe siècle" (éd. Akribeia,
45/3 route de Vourles, 69230 St Genis-Laval), rédigé à la demande de Germar
Rudolf qui en souhaite la plus grande diffusion possible:

<START>
22 octobre 2005

Amis:
Voici le résumé de la situation de Germar Rudolf, d'après les
conversations téléphoniques que j'ai eues avec lui depuis sa prison. Je
transcris de la manière la plus exacte possible un récit qui est le sien,
non le mien. Il souhaite qu'on lui donne une large diffusion par courriels
et sur les sites.
Le 19 octobre, Germar et sa femme avaient rendez-vous au bureau de l'INS
(Service d'immigration et de naturalisation) de Chicago pour faire entériner
leur mariage. Tout s'est bien passé et en fin d'entrevue l'INS avait
authentifié leur mariage. Au moment où ils s'apprêtaient à quitter les
lieux, deux fonctionnaires de l'INS sont arrivés et ont reproché à Germar de
n'avoir pas obtempéré à une lettre lui demandant de passer à leur bureau de
Chicago pour prise de photos et d'empreintes digitales. Ni Germar ni son
avocat n'avaient reçu une telle lettre, et on n'a toujours pas pu leur en
montrer copie. Cependant, en lui-même, le fait de ne s'être pas présenté
n'aurait pas dû avoir de conséquence dramatique puisque, en fait, l'INS
l'avait fait photographier et avait pris ses empreintes, il y a bien
longtemps, dans le bureau du FBI de Huntsville. La situation s'est trouvée
exacerbée par le fait que le gouvernement allemand a récemment déposé sa
seconde demande d'extradition et un employé de l'INS, pensant qu'il
s'agissait d'une véritable affaire criminelle, a donné l'alerte sur son
dossier. J'ai répondu à Germar que c'était une façon charitable de voir les
choses. En tout cas, Germar a été arrêté et envoyé à une prison située à 80
km de Chicago.
Une loi de 1960 stipule que le mariage à un citoyen américain suffit à
modifier le statut juridique d'une personne impliquée dans une procédure de
déportation, même si le mariage a lieu au cours de la procédure. Toutefois,
depuis 1999 le gouvernement a tenté d'agir comme si la loi n'existait pas et
il y est passablement parvenu, gagnant dans un procès et perdant dans trois
autres. Le tribunal d'Atlanta ("The 11th circuit court in Atlanta"), en
charge de l'affaire de Germar, n'a pas encore statué sur ce point juridique.
Normalement, dans une situation pareille, l'affaire est portée devant la
Cour suprême, qui est là pour résoudre les décisions contradictoires des
premières instances. Mais les personnes impliquées dans des affaires de
déportation étaient des gens pauvres qui n'avaient pas les moyens de faire
appel auprès de la Cour suprême. C'est la raison pour laquelle le
gouvernement n'a pas été contesté sur ce point depuis 1999. Le gouvernement
sait qu'il perdrait devant la Cour suprême.
Le tribunal d'Atlanta veut entendre la cause et la mener jusqu'à son
terme mais les plus hautes instances de l'exécutif à Washington, au
Département de la sécurité intérieure et au Département de la justice, sont
intervenues et ont déchargé l'INS de l'affaire. On ne sait pas comment, à
partir d'un employé anonyme de l'INS, l'affaire a pu passer aux plus hauts
niveaux de l'exécutif. Compte tenu de l'évolution des événements de la
semaine qui vient de s'écouler le tribunal a - uniquement verbalement,
semble-t-il - donné à l'INS jusqu'au 26 octobre pour déposer ses arguments
en faveur d'une reprise de l'affaire de Germar, sans doute pour le déporter
sur-le-champ. Les avocats de Germar auront alors jusqu'au 2 novembre pour
déposer leurs conclusions. Le tribunal rendra probablement sa décision un
peu plus tard en novembre.
La décision de novembre dira si la procédure restera sur place ou si elle
sera prise en mains par l'organe exécutif. C'est pourquoi il est
vraisemblable que Germar gagnera en novembre puisque le tribunal a exprimé
le souhait de mener cette affaire jusqu'à sa conclusion. Pourquoi irait-il
décider que ses propres délibérations sont sans importance ou sont sans
rapport avec l'affaire?
En supposant que la décision de novembre soit favorable, il devrait y
avoir une autre audition aux environs de janvier au cours de laquelle
réponse devra être fournie à deux questions. Premièrement, Germar a-t-il le
droit de bénéficier de l'asile politique? Deuxièmement, s'il n'y a pas
droit, a-t-il le droit d'obtenir un réajustement de son statut juridique en
raison de son mariage?
Je l'ai interrogé sur la question de la publicité à donner à cette
affaire: Germar n'y croit pas beaucoup mais je pense qu'elle sera nécessaire
pour collecter des fonds aux Etats-Unis de manière efficace. Son nom n'est
pas connu ici. Avant tout, Germar et ses avocats ne veulent pas de gens qui
manifestent leur colère auprès de l'INS et/ou du gouvernement. Des
manifestations publiques devant les bureaux de l'INS ou devant le tribunal
pourraient lui être fatales.
Pour le moment, ses bureaux sont fermés et il n'est pas possible
d'acheter de livres à partir de son site. Toutefois le site est toujours en
activité. Germar a pris ses dispositions pour que d'autres prennent sa suite
pour les opérations d'édition et de vente s'il venait à être déporté.
La prison où il réside n'est pas désagréable comme prison, et
l'atmosphère est celle d'une caserne militaire. Les mesures de sécurité ne
sont pas contraignantes. Il y a la télévision et des jeux pour les détenus,
ainsi que des livres s'ils veulent étudier. La nourriture est correcte.
Bien à vous
Arthur R. Butz
<END>

Apprenant cette nouvelle, Ingrid Zündel l'a transmise avec le commentaire
suivant:

<START>
(...) Je me bornerai à dire que l'histoire de ce "rendez-vous manqué" est la
même ficelle que celle qui a été employée pour Ernst. Nous avions beau avoir
présenté l'original d'un accusé-réception de l'INS prouvant que nous avions
demandé un report de ce rendez-vous, cela n'a servi strictement à rien. Le
résultat a été pour Ernst un bannissement de 20 ans et des procès
interminables dans trois pays sur deux continents.
Je partage la douleur de ce jeune couple.
Ingrid
<END>

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What can I do?

Post#5 » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:18 am

What can I do?

23 October 2005

Friends:

I have gotten several inquiries from people who wonder what they can do to help Germar Rudolf.

With a few exceptions, all they can do is donate money for Germar's legal expenses, and related, if needed.

I have not spoken to him specifically on this but I have the impression that his financial resources will cover him through the November court hearings in Atlanta.

If he loses in November, then the whole matter is settled. He will no doubt be deported immediately. Financial contributions would be pointless.

A victory in November would mean only the postponement of the decisive date. In an e-mail message yesterday I explained why this case could end up in the Supreme Court. In that event the legal expenses could be correspondingly supreme. Even an appeals process below the Supreme Court level would be very costly. I don't expect any help from the main "civil rights" organizations.

Of course the government is very well fixed, financially, for such a fight but I also explained yesterday why it might shy away from a lengthy appeals process.

My conclusion is that the typical supporter of revisionism can do nothing now but should be ready to open his/her wallet later this year, if asked.

In June Germar made a fund-raising effort that was pleasingly successful. That success came despite the fact that he was not really well situated to raise money in the USA. If he wins in November, and the outlook indicates a need for a good deal more money, then I hope he organizes an effective fund-raising effort aimed at the USA.

I hope you will be there for him. Here I am not, of course, speaking to the people who donated last summer, nor to those on the frontlines who have already greatly suffered financially.

Permission to forward this message in its integrity, and post it on the web, is granted.

Best regards,
A.R. Butz ArtButz@aol.com

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Post#6 » Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:59 am

From: ArtButz@aol.com

Sent: Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:03 AM
Subject: Germar report of 10/26


26 October 2005

Friends:

A short while ago I spoke to Germar on the phone and here is his report of the situation. Again, he wants this report widely circulated and posted. In this connection, it will be helpful for you to recall my report of Oct. 22 on his arrest and general situation. What are definitely my views, not part of what Germar told me, are enclosed in square brackets [].

The government had until today, Oct. 26, to file with the court its arguments as to why it should be allowed to take over Germar's case and deport him, and Germar had until Nov. 2 to respond. The government filed two days early, Oct. 24, and Germar's lawyers replied today. The court will probably rule in early November. The government has two arguments.

1. When Germar filed his application for an adjustment of status, based on his marriage to a US citizen, he did not anticipate that the government would invoke the 1999 administratively created policy of ignoring the 1960 law; the latter would give Germar the right to the adjustment. He did not challenge the policy then, so he has no right to challenge it now.

[Since there had been no ruling on this question in the 11th circuit, why would it occur to Germar, or his lawyers, to challenge it?]

2. [Since Germar did not file a "frivolous" application for political asylum], his deportation at this time would not exclude his return in the future. [I suppose the reasoning here is that, since everything going on in the German legal system is irrelevant, the fact that he would be imprisoned on return to Germany is also irrelevant.]

[I take this opportunity to correct a small contradiction that somebody spotted in my report of Oct. 22. I wrote

"the highest levels of the executive branch in Washington, in the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Justice, have now intervened and taken over the case from the INS. . . . . In view of developments this past week the court has, apparently only verbally, given the INS until Oct. 26 to file its arguments"

A correspondent wondered why, if the case had been taken from the INS, it was the INS that was to file.

What happened here is that I wrote a preliminary version of this report on Oct. 21 and then checked it with Germar on Oct. 22. He told me, essentially, that his case had moved to Washington. I should have changed that phrase to "given the government until Oct. 26".

In the future it would be best to say that Germar's adversary is the "government", and some fairly high levels of the government at that. Actually, the INS (Immigration and Naturalization Service) no longer exists, it having been transformed into an agency with another name within the Department of Homeland Security. However there is still a tendency to refer loosely to the "INS".]

On the matter of adjustments in the operations of his publishing business, Germar believes that, since the time frame is now so short, it would be pointless to implement changes that would have to be rescinded less than a month later.

Best regards,
Arthur R. Butz

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Sunday, 23 October 2005 5:58 AM

Post#7 » Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:15 am

From: ArtButz@aol.com

Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2005 5:58 AM
Subject: Germar Rudolf's situation


22 October 2005

Friends:

Here is a summary of Germar Rudolf's situation, based on my telephone conversations with him from jail. This is, up to my abilities to transcribe accurately, his account, not mine. He wants it to propagate widely as an e-mail and web postings.

On Oct. 19 Germar and his wife had a marriage interview at the Chicago office of the INS (Immigration and Naturalization Service). It went well and ended with the INS certifying that their marriage was real. As they were about to leave two officers of the INS appeared and claimed that Germar had been sent a letter instructing him to appear at their Chicago office for photographing and fingerprinting, and that he had not complied. Neither Germar nor his lawyer received such a letter, and they have still not been shown a copy of it. The failure to appear would not in itself, however have brought any drastic action; in fact, the INS had had him photographed and fingerprinted long ago at the FBI office in Huntsville. What exacerbated the situation was that recently the German government had made its second request for his extradition and some clerk at the INS, assuming the matter involved a real criminal case, flagged his file. I commented that that is the charitable interpretation. In any case, Germar was detained and sent to a jail about 50 miles from Chicago.

A 1960 law specified that marriage to a US citizen is a valid basis for an adjustment of status for somebody involved in deportation proceedings, even if the marriage takes place during the proceedings. However since 1999 the government has been trying to act as though the law does not exist and has succeeded in this to some extent, getting a favorable ruling in one federal circuit and adverse rulings in three others (a "circuit" is a geographical sub-division of the US, defined only for purposes of administration of federal law). The 11th circuit court in Atlanta, which has Germar's case, has not yet ruled on this legal issue. Normally such a situation results in the matter being appealed to the Supreme Court, which is there to resolve contradictory lower court decisions. However subjects in deportation cases have been poor people who could not begin to mount a challenge in the Supreme Court. That is why the government has not been challenged on this since 1999. The government knows that it would lose in the Supreme Court.

The 11th circuit court wants to hear this case to its conclusion but the highest levels of the executive branch in Washington, in the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Justice, have now intervened and taken over the case from the INS. How the matter passed from an anonymous clerk at the INS to the highest levels of the executive branch is unknown. In view of developments this past week the court has, apparently only verbally, given the INS until Oct. 26 to file its arguments on why it should be allowed to take over Germar's case, presumably to deport him forthwith. Germar's lawyers then have until Nov. 2 to file his arguments. The court will probably rule later in November.

The November ruling will be on whether the court's process will remain in place, or the executive branch will take over. Therefore it appears likely that Germar will win in November, as the court has expressed a wish to follow this case all the way to its conclusion. Why would it rule that its own deliberations are unimportant or irrelevant?

Assuming the November ruling is favorable, there is still likely a court hearing around January, which will decide two questions. First, is Germar entitled to political asylum? Second, if Germar is not entitled to political asylum, then is he entitled to an adjustment of status based on his marriage?

I commented on the question of publicity, which Germar is skeptical of but which I believe may be necessary to effectively raise funds in the US. He does not have any name recognition here. Above all, Germar and his lawyers do not want angry denunciation of the INS and/or government. Public demonstrations outside the INS or the court could be fatal.

At present his business operation is shut down and it is not possible to buy books from his website. However the website is still functioning. Germar has arranged for certain others to take over some of the publishing and business operations if he is deported.

The jail Germar is staying in is not an unpleasant place for a jail, and has an atmosphere resembling an army barracks. It has the lowest level of security and there are TV and games for the inmates' amusement, and books for their study. Food is decent.

Best regards,
Arthur R. Butz



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22. Oktober 2005

Freunde:

Hiermit eine Zusammenfassung von Germar Rudolfs Lage im Gefängnis, die auf jüngsten Telefongesprächen mit ihm beruht. Ich gebe hier präzise seine Beschreibung seiner gegenwärtigen Lage kund und komme gleichzeitig Germars Wunsch entgegen, diese Info weit und breit via E-Post mittels Foren, Netzseiten, sowie privat zu verbreiten.

Am 19. Oktober 2005, hatten Germar und seine Ehefrau ein Interview mit den INS-Behörden (Einwanderungsbehörden/Immigration and Naturalization Service) in Chicago. Alles lief so weit glatt und endete damit, daß die INS-Behörden die Ehe als real bestätigten. Als sie gerade im Begriff waren zu gehen, erschienen zwei Beamte der INS, die behaupteten, Germar sei der Aufforderung der INS, - zwecks Fingerabdrücken und Passbilddokumentation - im Chicago Amt der INS zu erscheinen, nicht nachgekommen. Fakt ist jedoch, weder Germar noch sein Rechtsanwalt haben einen solchen Brief erhalten und bis heute haben sie eine Kopie besagten Briefes nicht zu Gesicht bekommen. Fakt ist auch, die INS in Huntsville haben längst seine Fingerabdrücke und Fotos in ihrer Kartei abgelegt. Die ganze Situation wurde dadurch verschlimmert, weil irgend ein Beamter der INS, - der einfach annahm, die Sache sei kriminell -, Germars persönliche Kartei "beflaggt" hatte. Auf jeden Fall sitzt Germar derzeit in einem Gefängnis etwa 50 Meilen außerhalb Chicagos.

Noch 1960 galt das Gesetz, daß die Ehe mit einem/einer US-BürgerIN aufgrund einer Deportation gerechtfertigt ist, auch, wenn die Ehe während der Verhandlung einer solchen stattfindet. Seit 1999 versucht nun die Regierung so zu tun, als gelte dieses Gesetz nicht länger und hatte diesbezüglich auch schon gewissen Erfolg zu verzeichen. Der 11. Gerichtshof in Atlanta, der Germars Fall auf Akte hat, hat bisher noch nicht darüber gesetzlich entschieden. Normalerweise resultiert eine derartige Sache aus einem Appell an das Hohe Gericht, das in der Regel über die unteren Gerichtshöfe entscheidet. Es war jedoch bisher so, daß das Thema Deportation zumeist arme Leute (be)traf, die schlichtweg das Hohe Gericht nicht herausfordern können. Deshalb wurde das Hohe Gericht in dieser Angelegenheit seit 1999 nicht weiter herausgefordert. Die Regierung ist sich aber im Klaren, daß sie diesbezüglich rechtlich gegenüber dem Hohen Gericht verlieren würde.

Das 11. Kreisgericht beabsichtigt den Fall bis zum Ende anzuhören, allerdings haben sich nun die höchsten Instanzen der Exekutive in Washington, nämlich die Abteilung der "Heimatfront für Sicherheit", eingemischt und Germars Fall quasi von der INS übernommen. Wie diese Angelegenheit von einem anonymen Beamten der INS, zu der höchsten Instanz in Washington geleitet wurde, ist nicht bekannt. Anbetrachts der Entwicklungen der letzten Woche, hat das Gericht - wie es scheint bisher nur mündlich - der INS bis zum 26. Oktober für eine Erklärung des Grundes der Übernahme des Falls Germar zugestanden. Es besteht die Annahme, daß die INS beabsichtigt, Germar nach Deutschland abzuschieben. Germars Rechtsanwälte haben bis zum 2. November Zeit, seine Argumente einzubringen.

Die Entscheidung im November läuf daraufhin hinaus, ob die Gerichtsverhandlung so weiterläuft, oder ob das Hohe Gericht den Fall übernimmt. Es ist jedoch nicht auszuschließen, daß Germar im November gewinnt, da das Gericht ausdrücklich diesen Fall zu Ende verhandeln will.

Nimmt man an, daß das Resultat im November ein positives ist, wird noch immer ein Verhör im Januar stattfinden, welches entscheidet, ob Germar ein Recht auf polit. Asyl hat oder nicht. Und wenn nicht, ob zumindest hinsichtlich seiner Ehe, eine Anpassung seines Status' gerechtfertigt ist.
Wichtig ist zu vermerken, das weder Germar noch seine Rechtsanwälte irgendwelche negativen Ausbrüche über die INS oder die US-Regierung wünschen. Öffentliche Demonstrationen vor dem INS Gebäude könnten sich fatal für ihn auswirken.

Derzeit ist Germars Geschäfts- Unternehmen nicht zugänglich, auch ist es nicht möglich, Bücher über seine Netzseite zu bestellen. Aber immerhin funktioniert noch die Netzseite. Germar hatte für ein solches Scenario vorgesorgt. Vertrauenspersonen werden seinen Verlag weiterführen, sollte er deportiert werden.

Das Gefängnis, in dem er sich derzeit befindet, ist nicht übel. Es hat Ähnlichkeit mit einer Kaserne. Die Sicherheitsmaßnahmen sind dort nicht allzu streng und hart. Es gibt TV, sowie games für die Gefangenen, auch Bücher. Das Essen ist nicht schlecht.

Grüße
Arthur R. Butz



( - translated by Kalli14Dike@aol.com)



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From: Bocage
Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2005 9:44 PM
Subject: Germar Rudolf en prison!

Voici la traduction - rapide - d'un compte rendu du professeur américain Arthur R. Butz, auteur de "La Mystification du XXe siècle" (éd. Akribeia,
45/3 route de Vourles, 69230 St Genis-Laval), rédigé à la demande de Germar Rudolf qui en souhaite la plus grande diffusion possible:


22 octobre 2005

Amis:
Voici le résumé de la situation de Germar Rudolf, d'après les conversations téléphoniques que j'ai eues avec lui depuis sa prison. Je transcris de la manière la plus exacte possible un récit qui est le sien, non le mien. Il souhaite qu'on lui donne une large diffusion par courriels et sur les sites.
Le 19 octobre, Germar et sa femme avaient rendez-vous au bureau de l'INS (Service d'immigration et de naturalisation) de Chicago pour faire entériner leur mariage. Tout s'est bien passé et en fin d'entrevue l'INS avait authentifié leur mariage. Au moment où ils s'apprêtaient à quitter les lieux, deux fonctionnaires de l'INS sont arrivés et ont reproché à Germar de n'avoir pas obtempéré à une lettre lui demandant de passer à leur bureau de Chicago pour prise de photos et d'empreintes digitales. Ni Germar ni son avocat n'avaient reçu une telle lettre, et on n'a toujours pas pu leur en montrer copie. Cependant, en lui-même, le fait de ne s'être pas présenté n'aurait pas dû avoir de conséquence dramatique puisque, en fait, l'INS l'avait fait photographier et avait pris ses empreintes, il y a bien longtemps, dans le bureau du FBI de Huntsville. La situation s'est trouvée exacerbée par le fait que le gouvernement allemand a récemment déposé sa seconde demande d'extradition et un employé de l'INS, pensant qu'il s'agissait d'une véritable affaire criminelle, a donné l'alerte sur son dossier. J'ai répondu à Germar que c'était une façon charitable de voir les choses. En tout cas, Germar a été arrêté et envoyé à une prison située à 80 km de Chicago.
Une loi de 1960 stipule que le mariage à un citoyen américain suffit à modifier le statut juridique d'une personne impliquée dans une procédure de déportation, même si le mariage a lieu au cours de la procédure. Toutefois, depuis 1999 le gouvernement a tenté d'agir comme si la loi n'existait pas et il y est passablement parvenu, gagnant dans un procès et perdant dans trois autres. Le tribunal d'Atlanta ("The 11th circuit court in Atlanta"), en charge de l'affaire de Germar, n'a pas encore statué sur ce point juridique.
Normalement, dans une situation pareille, l'affaire est portée devant la Cour suprême, qui est là pour résoudre les décisions contradictoires des premières instances. Mais les personnes impliquées dans des affaires de déportation étaient des gens pauvres qui n'avaient pas les moyens de faire appel auprès de la Cour suprême. C'est la raison pour laquelle le gouvernement n'a pas été contesté sur ce point depuis 1999. Le gouvernement sait qu'il perdrait devant la Cour suprême.
Le tribunal d'Atlanta veut entendre la cause et la mener jusqu'à son terme mais les plus hautes instances de l'exécutif à Washington, au Département de la sécurité intérieure et au Département de la justice, sont intervenues et ont déchargé l'INS de l'affaire. On ne sait pas comment, à partir d'un employé anonyme de l'INS, l'affaire a pu passer aux plus hauts niveaux de l'exécutif. Compte tenu de l'évolution des événements de la semaine qui vient de s'écouler le tribunal a - uniquement verbalement, semble-t-il - donné à l'INS jusqu'au 26 octobre pour déposer ses arguments en faveur d'une reprise de l'affaire de Germar, sans doute pour le déporter sur-le-champ. Les avocats de Germar auront alors jusqu'au 2 novembre pour déposer leurs conclusions. Le tribunal rendra probablement sa décision un peu plus tard en novembre.
La décision de novembre dira si la procédure restera sur place ou si elle sera prise en mains par l'organe exécutif. C'est pourquoi il est vraisemblable que Germar gagnera en novembre puisque le tribunal a exprimé le souhait de mener cette affaire jusqu'à sa conclusion. Pourquoi irait-il décider que ses propres délibérations sont sans importance ou sont sans rapport avec l'affaire?
En supposant que la décision de novembre soit favorable, il devrait y avoir une autre audition aux environs de janvier au cours de laquelle réponse devra être fournie à deux questions. Premièrement, Germar a-t-il le droit de bénéficier de l'asile politique? Deuxièmement, s'il n'y a pas droit, a-t-il le droit d'obtenir un réajustement de son statut juridique en raison de son mariage?
Je l'ai interrogé sur la question de la publicité à donner à cette
affaire: Germar n'y croit pas beaucoup mais je pense qu'elle sera nécessaire pour collecter des fonds aux Etats-Unis de manière efficace. Son nom n'est pas connu ici. Avant tout, Germar et ses avocats ne veulent pas de gens qui manifestent leur colère auprès de l'INS et/ou du gouvernement. Des manifestations publiques devant les bureaux de l'INS ou devant le tribunal pourraient lui être fatales.
Pour le moment, ses bureaux sont fermés et il n'est pas possible d'acheter de livres à partir de son site. Toutefois le site est toujours en activité. Germar a pris ses dispositions pour que d'autres prennent sa suite pour les opérations d'édition et de vente s'il venait à être déporté.
La prison où il réside n'est pas désagréable comme prison, et l'atmosphère est celle d'une caserne militaire. Les mesures de sécurité ne sont pas contraignantes. Il y a la télévision et des jeux pour les détenus, ainsi que des livres s'ils veulent étudier. La nourriture est correcte.
Bien à vous

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Bush Adminstration Press Release on Germar Rudolf

Post#8 » Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:48 pm

DIckTaster Jorge III shows whose cock he sucks the most. Zionazis bend his a$$ over any time they demand something. And on cue this weasal delivers the goods.

All of this suppression of free speach is going to back fire on these Jewish Supremacists that are trying to force everyone to bow down on their alter of holohaux-a-shoah shit.

Its time the free peoples of the world send these first fucking class criminals to the gulag... or the firing squad... I dont know which or care.
pk

Bush Adminstration Press Release on Germar Rudolf

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EDITOR's NOTE: Here is official US government crowing over the
deportation of former Max Planck chemist Germar Rudolf back to Germany
to be jailed for his scientific findings. In fact, he was escorted in
Germany by US agents.The tenor of this report shows full support for
Germany's suppression of Rudolf's rights of free of speech and press and
puts the word scientific in quotes when referring to Rudolf's chemical
research. Once again, "your" US government is keelhauling a heroic
carrier of civilization back into the waiting arms of the beast. Heads
up to Muslims: this is the sort of "democracy" Bush has in store for
your country: one nation under Judaism. Remember the name of Germar
Rudolf the next time Bush lectures you on freedom, and invoke his name
at US-staged public forums in the Middle East at every opportunity.

ICE DEPORTS "HOLOCAUST REVISIONIST" TO GERMANY
November 15, 2005
http://www.ice.gov/graphics/news/newsre ... hicago.htm

CHICAGO — A well-known revisionist and holocaust denier, wanted in
Germany for inciting racial hatred by denying that thousands of Jews
were gassed to death at Auschwitz, was deported last night by the
Department of Homeland Security's U.S. Immigration and Customs
Enforcement (ICE).

"ICE is focused on protecting America and promoting public safety by
ensuring that fugitive aliens are removed from the United States as
expeditiously as possible," said Deborah Achim, field officer director
for Chicago's detention and removal program. "We are restoring integrity
to the immigration system by finding and removing individuals ordered
deported by federal immigration judges."

Yesterday's deportation of Germar Rudolf, aka Germar Scheerer, 41, ended
a decade spent on the lam as he traversed the globe, living in Spain,
Great Britain, Mexico and finally, the United States. Rudolf is wanted
in Germany for his 1995 conviction of inciting racial hatred in
violation of Germany's Holocaust denial legislation, which was enacted
to combat anti-Semitism and protect the memory of Hitler's victims.

He fled Germany in 1996 to avoid imprisonment. Rudolf, a former chemist
from Stuttgart and author of "Dissecting the Holocaust," was sentenced
by the German government to 14 months in prison for publishing a
"scientific" report refuting the deaths of thousands of Jews in the gas
chambers at Auschwitz. Rudolf tested bricks in the gas chambers for
traces of Zyklon B, deadly cyanide used to kill Jews during the
Holocaust.

His report claimed that because he did not find evidence of Zyklon B on
the sampled bricks it was unlikely that the mass gassings of Jews
occurred at Auschwitz. Rudolf applied for political asylum in the United
States in 2000, claiming political persecution in Germany.

A federal immigration judge denied Rudolf's asylum claim and ordered him
deported in June 2003. Rudolf's appeal to the Board of Immigration
Appeals (BIA) was dismissed in September 2004. Both the United States
Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit and the United States Supreme
Court have denied Rudolf's requests to stay his deportation pending
federal appeal. Although he is no longer present in the United States,
Rudolf's appeal of the BIA's decision will continue before the Eleventh
Circuit.

Rudolf was ordered to present himself to the Chicago ICE office for
deportation April 7, but he defied the order and remained in the U.S. as
a fugitive alien. On Oct. 19 he appeared at the Chicago office of U.S.
Citizenship and Immigration Services to apply for a green card based on
his marriage to a U.S. citizen. A records check revealed his outstanding
order of deportation and he was immediately taken into federal custody.
Rudolf was deported to Frankfurt under the escort of two U.S.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers and turned over to the
custody of the German Federal Police.

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Post#9 » Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:19 am

Damn Paul, don't hold back on these evil motherfuckers. I'm about to my line, too. How can so many see so little? Playing Paul Revere isn't working well. Start a Constitution Study Group in your area and educate newbies about real Liberty. We had 45 members all spreading the word and filling the airwaves. Our airwaves have since been taken back by TPTB, oh well. Start one up and recruit young people inclined to freedom.

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TV

Post#10 » Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:19 am

Local public broadcasting is usally a good way to get a message out. I havn't done it personaly yet, but if anyone has time.. that might be a good place to start.

I belive that community telivision is basicly open to all. If you live in a smaller community and have one, your chances for air time might be better.. though I'm not 100% certain. You couuld probably even air an Alex Jones video, since he allows such. Thats probably somthing I even have time for! (I wounder if they would just play a tape for me?... ).

Anyway, just a thought.

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Post#11 » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:09 am

Brad, I think it better to start out with more basic stuff. Putting an Alex Jones production in front of sheeple will most probably turn them off as they are brainwashed to believing that hot a topic as conspiracy theory. Get them gradually to noticing our loss of liberties and slowly work up to hard-core stuff like his. Just my $.02 worth.

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3-14-6 Update on "Thought Criminal" Germar Rudolf

Post#12 » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:26 am

Update on "Thought Criminal" Germar Rudolf
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by Paul Grubach
I received my second letter from the brave and outstanding Holocaust revisionist scholar, Germar Rudolf, who is now incarcerated in a prison cell in Stuggart, Germany. His "crime" is that he performed a forensic study of the alleged "Auschwitz gas chambers" and showed that they never existed. Because the dictatorial German government cannot refute his study with reason and evidence, they have no recourse but to imprison Germar.

Anyhow, I cannot publish his letter because I don't have his written permission to do so. However, I can paraphrase some of its contents. The good news is that Germar appears to be holding up very well. He exercises 6 times per week. In order to keep his body fit, his exercise program consists of running and weightlifting. In order to keep his mind sharp, he reads numerous books per week, and he listens to Mozart very often. He gets plenty of good food and nutritional supplements.

I get the impression that he is very touched by the outpouring of support that he has received!! He did imply, however, that the German authorities are censoring his mail.

In closing, I just want to say that Germar Rudolf is one of the most outstanding men that the Holocaust revisionist movement has ever produced. He is not only a brilliant scholar, he is also a good person. He deserves your support!!!

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Germar Rudolf update Tuesday, 28 March 2006 7:36 AM

Post#13 » Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:51 pm

Tuesday, 28 March 2006 7:36 AM
Subject: Germar Rudolf update--Mass circulation edition



Dear Friends,

Today, I received two letters from Germar Rudolf from prison. As most of
you know, Germar is the outstanding Holocaust revisionist scholar that put
the final and ultimate nail in the coffin of the "Auschwitz Gas Chamber"
legend. The forensic study of this courageous and gifted former Max Planck
Institute doctoral candidate stands as a classic of science and Holocaust
revisionism. Let it suffice to say that Germar is one of the most
outstanding men the Holocaust revisionist movement has ever produced. Not
only is he a brilliant scholar, but he is also a good person. He deserves
your support!!

Obviously, I cannot publish the letters because I don't have his written
permission to do so. But I believe I am justified in paraphrasing some of
their contents, so as to keep Holocaust revisionists and others updated on
Germar's condition.

I get the impression that Germar is holding up very well and that he is in
good spirits. He must be getting a ton of mail (that he very much
appreciates), because he says that his thumb is sore from writing so much.
He says that he has some trouble getting supplies for his typewriter. He is
overwhelmed with material to read, as many people send him "all kinds of
stuff." His workout schedule is coming along well, as he exercises two
hours per day six days a week. The food is very good, and he also buys
supplements.

Surprisingly (!), the German authorities did give him Paul Grubach's open
letter to George W.Bush, in which I castigated Bush for his hypocrisy and
double standards in regard to Holocaust revisionists like Germar Rudolf.
Surprise(!), Surprise (!) again, as the German officials also gave Germar my
open letter to the UN Iranian ambassador, in which I requested that he bring
the case of Germar Rudolf before a UN human rights tribunal. And finally,
we should be really surprised (!) that the German judge gave Germar at least
one of my letters to the US German embassy, in which I castigated the German
government for oppressing Germar!!!!

However, the Mannheim court did inform Germar that one of my letters was
confiscated, which conclusively shows that the court does examine his mail
and they do some censor some of it. Germar said that maybe the German judge
did not like what I wrote, or perhaps he liked it so much that he kept it!!

Finally, Germar wants to make certain that the bond between him and his wife
stays strong, and he suggested a way in which I can help him on this. This
is all I will say on this matter, and I will help him as much as I can.

Paul Grubach

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latest update 4-25-6

Post#14 » Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:01 am

US court decision on Germar


Friends:

The federal court in Atlanta ruled today in a mixed way in Germar's case. It
upheld Germar on the government charge that his application for political
asylum was "frivolous", but it sided with the government in saying that
Germar had not met the burden of proof required to be granted political
asylum.

It sided with Germar in ruling that Germar is entitled to apply for an
adjustment of status based on his marriage to a US citizen, but also noted
that the Attorney General could deny such an application.

None of that helps him in Germany.

The pdf file of the ruling is attached.

A.R. Butz

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5/7/6 latest on Germars NWO-POW STATUS

Post#15 » Tue May 09, 2006 11:12 pm

The federal court in Atlanta ruled today in a mixed way in Germar's case. It upheld Germar on the government charge that his application for political asylum was "frivolous", but it sided with the government in saying that Germar had not met the burden of proof required to be granted political asylum.
Germar Rudolf's US legal battle
http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/images ... cision.pdf

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