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Ernst Zundels Is Now Free March 1st 2010

Post#1 » Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:07 pm

Ernst Zundel in Germany, his address

Contact him at:
as of 6/30/05:

Justizvollzuganstalt Mannheim
Herzogenriedstr. 111
D- 68169 Mannheim
Germany
Tel. 49+621 3980, extension 217.

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Irving commentary on Zundel

Post#2 » Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:30 pm

Irving commentary on Zundel.
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:28 AM
Subject: Irving commentary on Zundel.

AR Action Report Online

The Independent
London, UK, Thursday, March 3, 2005

Holocaust denier faces jail in Germany

By Tony Paterson in Berlin

GERMAN state prosecutors have charged one of the world's most notorious Holocaust deniers with inciting racial hatred, ending a 10-year battle by the country's legal authorities to bring him to justice.

Ernst Zündel, who once described Adolf Hitler as a "decent and peaceful man", was extradited from Canada and bundled on to a flight to Frankfurt on Tuesday [March 1, 2005] after a decade on the run from the German authorities. Yesterday, state prosecutors in Mainz charged the 65-year-old German citizen with inciting racial hatred and denying the Holocaust, a crime in Germany punishable by a maximum five-year prison term.


David Irving comments:

THIS article is a schoolroom example of journalistic spite without factual analysis.
After serving two years in solitary confinement in a Canadian jail, and being found to be a "security risk" under the new post 9/11"anti-terror" laws, Zündel is air-freighted out of the country he has lived in without having once been convicted of any charge.
Instead of giving him a choice of destination, Canada turns him over to Germany, which had not at that time issued any charge against him to back its extradition demand. No UK magistrate would have allowed such a procedure.
In Canada the judiciary is heavily polluted with the traditional enemies of Free Speech. Zündel's "crime" is to have said things which these folks did not want people to hear.
It was Zündel after all who sent Fred Leuchter to Auschwitz with his bucket and spade: and that Parsifal-like character returned with 48 ("illegal") samples hacked out of the brickwork from the "gas chambers"; and a highly reputable New England forensic laboratory found that there were no significant traces of cyanide residue in the homicidal chambers where half a million men had allegedly been gassed.
Zündel had to be made to pay for this effrontery, nay act of blasphemy.

WHAT are his crimes? What are the facts: It is said here that he called Hitler a peaceful man. A lot of people have believed that and history may well agree. But Zündel also wrote a book called The Hitler We Loved And Why. Real Spike Milligan stuff that, and hardly calling for a five-year jail sentence.
The Canadian judge Pierre Blais, a real modern-day Roland Freisler, ruled however that his activities were a threat to the "international community of nations". Many might say that President George W Bush's activities are just such a threat.

MY friend Ernst Zündel has borne the extraordinary stings inflicted on him by these puny enemies with great and marvellous fortitude. Only yesterday I found a two-page pencilled letter from him -- a blunt pencil was all he that he was allowed in his Canadian prison cell -- waiting amongst the months-old mail that has finally caught up with me on my journey across the USA..
"A friend of the British historian David Irving."
Yes, I have many friends who hold to views which do not conform, and I am proud to call this brave man one of them.

pokerkidz writes: "Would be nice to see the germans rise up and push back the Hate laws that imprison thousands of their brethren for thought crimes. For having the temerity of questioning any and all parts of the orthodoxy known as holohauxianity.

NO ONE should go to prison because they do not like, do not believe in the religion or faith-belief system of another. Criminalizing thought is just what the controllers want to be able to do, to make other thoughts crimes as well. George orwell had it right, wrong decade.
pk
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Holocaust Questioner Zundel Behind Bars In Germany

Post#3 » Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:35 pm

Holocaust Denier Zundel Behind Bars In Germany

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... hub=Canada
Source: www.ctv.ca
Published: March 2, 2005 Author: CTV.ca News Staff
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Wed. Mar. 2 2005 5:56 AM ET

Holocaust Denier Zundel Behind Bars In Germany

CTV.ca News Staff

After being deported from Canada to his native Germany on Tuesday, white supremacist Ernst Zundel was arrested as soon as he touched ground in Frankfurt.

"He has been turned over to German authorities,'' Alex Swann, spokesman for Public Safety Minister Anne McLellan, told The Canadian Press. "This is a significant step. The process has worked.''

German authorities took him into custody on charges of publicly denyng the Holocaust, which is illegal in that country. The German Nazi regime of Adolf Hitler was responsible for the Holocaust, which attempted to eradicate Jews in Europe over the course of the Second World War. Six million Jews died in death camps over that period.

"I saw my people being destroyed and I was there for so many months, smelling the putrid smell of burning flesh from those cremetoria chimney," said Holocaust survivor Arnold Friedman, who was incarcerated in the most notorious death camp -- Auschwitz.

Of Zundel, he said: "He's going to prove to the world there was no Holocaust and he's talking to guys who went through it."

Zundel lived for 42 years in Canada as a landed immigrant. His last two years were spent in a jail cell in Toronto, where he was held under a national security certificate.

Last week, a Federal Court judge ruled that Zundel should be deported because he poses a threat to national security. In his 64-page decision, Justice Pierre Blais called the 65-year-old German national a danger to society.

"Mr. Zundel's activities are not only a threat to Canada's national security but also a threat to the international community of nations," Blais said.

Denouncing Zundel as a Hitler sympathizer determined to propagate the neo-Nazi movement, Blais said Zundel was a "leader of international significance" among white supremacists.

Some Jewish groups say Zundel's deportation is the end of a sad chapter in Canadian history.

"I just found it an outrage. A sad and depressing outrage that this man would have the audacity to claim that six million Jews were not murdered," said Bernie Farber, executive director of the Canadian Jewish Congress. He felt Zundel's expulsion should have happened sooner.

Zundel, who has no criminal record in Canada, was jailed in 2003. It happened after he was deported here by the United States for overstaying his visa there. He had been trying to gain U.S. citizenship.

Zundel was detained on a national security certificate.

There are advocates who disagree with the use of the certificate, which allows indefinite detention of those deemed a threat to national security without either a charge or trial. Issuing one of the certificates requires the signature of two cabinet ministers and a Federal Court judge.

Alan Borovoy of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association said although he believes Zundel is "a nasty, nasty man," Canada is "behaving unfairly because of the way the security certificate system works."

Zundel's lawyer in Toronto, Peter Lindsay, said his client is "very disillusioned about the process and about being the victim of a secret trial, and now being deported based on evidence he's never seen."

Zundel's legal troubles began in the mid-1980s after the publishing of his pamphlet, Did Six Million Really Die?

He was convicted twice, although the verdicts were thrown out on appeal.

In the mid 1990s he was charged again, this time over his website which spread his Holocaust-denying propaganda. Zundel fled to the U.S. before a trial.

A spokesperson for Germany's federal Justice Ministry said that authorities were able to open a case against Zundel because his Holocaust-denying website is available in Germany, so he is therefore considered to be spreading his hateful message to that country as well.

With files from the Canadian Press and the Associated Press

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Post#4 » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:26 am

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.ph ... t293427113



Welcome to American Dissident Voices. I'm Kevin Alfred Strom.

THERE ARE MANY STRANDS that make up the knot of tyranny which
increasingly binds the minds of men. But none are more obvious --
and none are more odious -- than the cords that bind a man who
will, in my opinion, one day be regarded as one of the heroes of
this age, Mr. Ernst Zundel, late of Pigeon Forge, Tennessee and
now of Mannheim prison in Germany. Mr. Zundel was just shipped in
chains to Germany after the most shameful imaginable quasi-legal
terrorism and sham proceedings by the governments of the United
States and Canada. The Star Chamber has returned to North
America. Mr. Zundel's "crime" is that of publicly doubting what
Jews say about World War II -- nothing more. All else is pretext.
The "missed immigration hearing" was the Bush-neocon
administration's pretext to kidnap him and ship him from his home
and hearth and wife into Canada, where he was held in solitary
confinement for two years without charge and subjected to a
secret trial under a "judge" who once headed the secret police
agency which knowingly put him in mortal danger, probably hoping
to kill him on orders of its Jewish masters.

So now the Alice-in-Wonderland "ruling" has been issued, and the
innocent writer and thinker Ernst Zundel is in yet another
prison, now charged in Germany with doubting the extremely
doubtful but legally-protected story of the "Holocaust." So now
the focus shifts to Europe, where awareness of Jewish power is
growing and yet also where free speech is not a right and
doubting the Jewish version of World War II history is a crime.

To discuss this important event we have as our guest today Mr.
Mark Weber, Director of the Institute for Historical Review. Mr.
Weber is not only an historian, but he has served as the Zundel
family's American spokesman, giving many media interviews,
organizing protests and speaking events in the cause of freeing
this innocent man. Welcome to the program, Mark.

Mark Weber: Thank you very much, Kevin. It's a pleasure to be on
again.

KAS: Can you give us a brief synopsis of the events beginning
with the judge's "ruling" in Canada a few days ago?

MW: Well, the last several weeks have been dramatic. It was on
the 24th or 25th that Judge Blais handed down his long-awaited
decision on the accusation that Ernst Zundel is a "threat to
national security" -- which is fantastic, really. Ernst Zundel
has been held for two years in solitary confinement in Canadian
detention on the charge that he's a "threat to national
security." Just about every neutral observer of the scene rejects
that as an empty pretext. It's amazing that in the last several
days even a number of journalists on national television have
stressed, admitted, or acknowledged, over and over, that this
charge is really preposterous.

In any case, Judge Blais handed down his ruling and declared that
Ernst Zundel is a "threat to national security." Now he did so on
the basis of evidence that no one can see. It seems to be based
entirely on who Ernst Zundel has met with and talked with over
the past several years, and he alleges that Ernst Zundel is a
"central figure" in a sinister network of right-wingers,
nationalists, White supremacists, and so forth. But no actual
evidence of any wrongdoing or any real threat was cited by the
judge. And it only underscored the emptiness of the pretext under
which Ernst Zundel has been held.

Very shortly after Judge Blais issued this ruling, Ernst Zundel
was informed that he would be deported to Germany. He's a German
national, and although he had been living in Canada for more than
40 years, for the last several years -- until he was incarcerated
in Canada -- he had been living in Tennessee with his wife. On
the second of March, Ernst Zundel was packed up, put on an
airplane, and sent to Germany. And as we speak he's now being
held in a prison in Mannheim, Germany, and he has been charged
with violating that country's strange law which makes it a crime
to "deny the Holocaust," that is, to dispute the official version
of the fate of Europe's Jews during World War II.

It's unclear what will happen next, when there will be a trial,
and so forth.

One of the amazing facets of this whole thing is that before he
was deported from the United States two years ago, Ernst Zundel
had been living quietly in Tennessee with his wife, Ingrid
Rimland. He's now become far better known -- and his whole case
has become far better known -- as a result of his arrest in the
United States, his deportation to Canada first and now to
Germany. The case has now become an international affair. Ernst
Zundel and his ordeal are now much better known that ever they
were before he was taken away in February 2003.

KAS: Indeed. How is Mrs. Zundel -- Ingrid Rimland Zundel --
taking this?

MW: Well, I spoke with her just the other day. It's a big blow,
of course. She's afraid she'll never see her husband again.

As it happens, on the third of February, she and I spoke at a
meeting here in southern California organized by the IHR. This
was the first address that Ingrid had given to any audience about
her husband's ordeal, about the background of the whole thing,
since he was taken away from her in February of 2003. She talked
about how, right after he was arrested, it was a really great
blow. She was very subdued and it was very difficult. Then, of
course, life picks up and a new pattern emerges. And she has,
with great fortitude, borne this tremendous burden that has
fallen on her shoulders, organizing this campaign for his release
during the past couple of years.

And when I spoke to her again just a few days ago, she was of
course very subdued again. It's a terrible blow, and she's afraid
she'll never see him again. She runs the risk, of course, even
visiting him in Germany, that she might be arrested herself and
put in prison, because the laws in Germany are very bizarre in
this respect.

KAS: What a sad, sad situation for a married couple to be in.

MW: It's a very very sad situation. There's a number of aspects
of this whole case that are really remarkable. Ernst Zundel was
arrested and taken away in Tennessee on the pretext that he had
missed an immigration hearing. He was held in Canada for two
years in solitary confinement on the empty pretext that he's a
"threat to national security." And now he's being held in Germany
on the charge that he "denies the Holocaust." In all three cases,
the charges are empty or they are political in nature or both.
But, no matter the character of the individual circumstances in
each case, they all point up the tremendous symbolic role that
Ernst Zundel has taken on.

It's important to stress that Ernst Zundel has been targeted in
this way not because of anything he's actually done. I mean, the
charge that he's a "threat to national security" is really
preposterous on its face, as even the leading newspaper in
Canada, the Globe and Mail, has on two occasions editorially
affirmed. What's significant is that Ernst Zundel fought a
tremendous battle in the courts in the 1980s over the Holocaust
issue. He enormously publicized the entire Holocaust Revisionist
case of skepticism about the official Holocaust story. And I can
attest personally -- I've seen this myself -- that the Canadian
Jewish groups and the American Jewish groups absolutely hate this
man and are determined to put him away and shut him up any way
they can.

KAS: Yes; when you strip away all the legal pretexts and the sham
moralizing it comes to down to a case of Jewish vengeance.

MW: A popular public affairs program in Canada called The Michael
Coren Show has dealt -- three or four times now in the last few
weeks -- with the Zundel case. And there's been unanimous
agreement -- even by the host of the show, who's Jewish, and the
others who've been on the show -- that Ernst Zundel is not a
threat to national security. But one guest in particular was
emphatic in saying that Zundel is in prison because Jewish groups
want him in prison. This is a point which very few people are
willing to say openly, but which must be said.

If Ernst Zundel is not really a threat to national security, then
an immense injustice has been done to this man. He's been held
for two years, then, unjustly. He's a victim -- he's not a
perpetrator -- he's a victim of injustice. And the question
arises: Who are the perpetrators? -- and how can they be held
accountable for the injustice against him and against others like
him?

KAS: Indeed. We must not forget that.

Is anyone able to speak with Mr. Zundel?

MW: Well, I don't know now what the situation is, how freely he
is able to speak. When he was in solitary confinement in Canada,
he was permitted to make collect telephone calls out, as long as
the authorities were notified in advance to whom he was calling.
As your listeners may know from previous broadcasts, he was held
under draconian conditions. The light was never turned off in his
cell; he was not permitted to have even a pen, he had to write
with pencils; he was not allowed to have a desk -- very
draconian. I don't know now what the situation is, but it's hard
to imagine that circumstances that he will be held under in
Germany will be any worse than they were in Canada.

At least now he has the right to confront the evidence against
him, whatever it is, and to deal with it in a kind of normal way.
When someone is held in Canada or other countries under the
pretext of "national security," all the normal rules are thrown
out the window, and, as I mentioned, in Zundel's case in Canada
he was not permitted to confront or refute or respond to the
supposed evidence that was presented against him.

KAS: So this is not going to be a secret trial, as was the one in
Canada.

MW: Right. One of the remarkable aspects of the case now in
Germany is that Ernst Zundel has been charged with "Holocaust
denial" because of what's been posted on the so-called
Zundelsite. ( http://www.zundelsite.org/ which is linked to the
Institute for Historical Review site, http://www.ihr.org/ ) The
Zundelsite contains quite a lot of material that is called
"Holocaust denial." But it's important to remember a couple of
things. First, the Web site, despite the name, is not really
Ernst Zundel's Web site. And that's not just a quibble. His wife
runs the Web site. His wife controls the Web site. Not only does
Ernst Zundel not have access to it -- he doesn't even know the
password.

But the most obvious evidence that the site is not run by Ernst
Zundel is the fact that it's been running for two years while
he's been in solitary confinement in Canada.

Second, the Web site is based not in Germany or even in Canada,
but in the United States. And to punish a person for what is
posted on a Web site in another country -- where that material is
legal -- opens up a very dangerous door for abuse. Let us
consider for a moment the implications if that becomes the
general principle. It could mean, for example, that a Chinese
person living in the United States who posts something on an
American Web site denouncing Communist rule in China, could be
punished and even extradited from the United States to China and
punished there for doing something that's quite legal in this
country but illegal in China. As everyone knows, there are laws
all around the world that we in America don't agree with -- in
fact, there are laws in America that Americans fifty years ago
wouldn't have agreed with. So for a person to make a statement on
a Web site in a country where it's legal, and then have that
person punished in another country, is a very dangerous thing
indeed.

KAS: There are some of your writings up on the Zundelsite. And I
know that there are some of mine there as well. Haven't some of
your writings there been the subject of legal proceedings?

MW: Right. Some essays that I've written, which are posted on the
IHR Web site, are also posted on the Zundelsite. And they've
been, under German law, "indexed." That means they're not exactly
banned, but there are certain restrictions on them. They're put
in a category in Germany similar to the category under which
pornography is placed.

And Jewish groups in Canada tried, after they were unsuccessful
in "getting" Zundel during the 1980s, to shut him up and punish
him for what appeared on the Zundelsite during the 1990s. This
was done before a quasi-legal body called the "Human Rights
Tribunal" and on two occasions I testified before this tribunal
on behalf of Ernst Zundel. And part of the reason I testified
was, as you mentioned, that some of the writings that were
objected to were written by me.

But the incredible thing is that these writings, because of the
court cases that Ernst Zundel fought in the 1980s, were legal in
printed form in Canada -- and are now legal in printed form in
Canada -- but Jewish organizations were trying to punish or shut
up Ernst Zundel for these same writings when they appeared on the
Internet on the Zundelsite -- which, as I said, is run by his
wife and not by him and is based in the United States.

KAS: It sounds like the court of the Red Queen in Alice in
Wonderland.

MW: On the fourth of February we held a demonstration outside the
Canadian Consulate in downtown Los Angeles, and there were maybe
50 Los Angeles policemen in the middle of the street separating
our demonstration from the very raucous demonstration by the
Jewish Defense League on the other side of the street. I can say
that one of the most gratifying aspects of that demonstration was
the support we got from people who represent a whole range of
political views. Ernst Zundel has become a symbol -- a lightning
rod -- a rallying point -- for people concerned about the issue
of freedom of speech. And it's very gratifying to see the kind of
support that he's gotten on this matter. By the same token, it
really points up the hypocrisy of these so-called defenders of
free speech -- that they have not supported Ernst Zundel in this
because they do not want to be associated with a person who holds
these views on the Second World War and so forth. But there's
been a wide range of support -- and growing support for Ernst
Zundel the longer he was held.

The demonstration we held on the fourth of February was
coordinated with demonstrations in other American cities on that
same day or the next day, and also in Tokyo, in Stockholm, and in
Canada as well. And I just received a report that today, in
Mannheim, Germany, there were forty to fifty people demonstrating
and distributing leaflets supporting Ernst Zundel. Now it's hard
to say what's going to happen, but there's every prospect that
the Zundel case will become an important case in Germany as well.

KAS: Excellent. I'm glad to hear that.

Who has failed us in this regard? Who has failed us in standing
up for Ernst Zundel's freedom of speech? How about Amnesty
International?

MW: On just the immediate issue -- and this is a point I made in
my talk just a few weeks ago -- their behavior has been
hypocritical. Amnesty International, which is probably the most
prestigious international organization for political prisoners,
has taken the view that those people who are incarcerated or
punished for free speech that is labeled "hateful" don't deserve
their support. Amnesty International has shown its hypocrisy, and
the limitations of its adherence to its own principles, in the
Zundel case.

But there's more than that. It's outrageous that the American
media have failed to publicize the Zundel case or to denounce the
treatment of Zundel fervently or in any really meaningful way.

It's really part of a larger problem. In a number of European
countries -- France, Germany, Switzerland, the Netherlands and so
forth -- it's a crime to dispute the official version of World
War II history about the Holocaust. My point is that it's a real
failure that there has not been more outrage about the very
existence of these laws.

KAS: Yes.

MW: This is the only chapter of history that receives this kind
of judicial protection -- or, to put it another way, it's a form
of selective justice. And selective justice is not justice. It's
a form of injustice. And these laws exist because Jewish groups
have agitated and promoted and pushed for these laws. Because for
Jewish groups, the Holocaust story is a very very important
pillar of their psychology, and of their media and cultural role
in our society. And anyone who pays even the slightest attention
realizes the extent to which the Holocaust has the kind of iconic
status it does in our society.

KAS: The Jewish power structure has been able to get these laws
enacted in many European countries, whereas they do not have
similar laws -- at least, not yet -- in the United States.
However, it's sort of ironic that in Europe there seems to be a
much greater awareness of Jewish power and the toxic nature of
Jewish power than there is in the United States. Do you think
that this will be a factor in how the Zundel case is seen in
Europe?

MW: Well, I'm not as close as I'd like to be to the situation in
Europe. But there does seem to be a shift in Europe about a lot
of this. It's been 60 years now since the end of World War II in
Europe, and all of these kinds of laws and this kind of special
emphasis on Jewish suffering -- almost to the exclusion of, and
certainly overshadowing, the suffering of other peoples -- is
pretty tiring to millions and millions of people, not only in
Europe but around the world. But it's put up with by a lot of
people who don't really care what the implications are and so
forth.

I think it is harder and harder for a state -- Germany or other
states -- to justify putting people in jail for expressing a
dissident view about this one chapter in history, and yet not
punishing people for dissident views on other subjects. It's a
violation of the proclaimed ideals of democracy that these
countries all claim to support.

KAS: Are these offenses under which Ernst Zundel is now charged
in Germany bailable offenses? I would think that they would be.

MW: In principle, yes. But Ernst Zundel is a special case, for
several reasons -- and not just because of his prominence. It's
also because he has no real residence in Germany. He hasn't lived
in Germany for 40 to 45 years. Normally bail is given when a
person has a normal residence in a place. It's fairly easy for
the state prosecutor to argue that he shouldn't be given bail on
the basis that he's likely to leave the country. Indeed, he wants
to leave the country. He doesn't want to be there. He was forced
to be there. Normally, he might be given bail. But in this
particular situation, it's hard to see. It's also hard to see how
the state -- without looking ludicrous -- is going to try and
enforce the law in this case, given the fact that -- as I
mentioned -- he's been in solitary confinement for two years and
can't control the Web site that's supposedly the center of the
offense.

***

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"Zundel's Persecution: By Order of the Jews," next week on
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Post#5 » Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:04 am

Irving commentary on Zundel.
Where can i keep something like that? :X

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a page FULL of info on Ernsts case...

Post#6 » Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:00 am

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Dissen ... undel1.htm

Update on Ernst Zündel and related matters

Trial dates at Mannheim: 8, 9, 15, 16, 24, November

2, 9, 16 December 2005

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Zundel Sues Canada for $10-million for Detention in Solitary

Post#7 » Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:32 pm

Great news.... I just wish he could collect what is due him.
pk



Zundel Sues Canada for $10-million for Detention in Solitary Hell Hole



Dear Free Speech Supporter:



The Zundel case remains alive in Canada. On November 1, All Saints Day, his lawyer, Peter Lindsay filed a $10-million Statement of Claim in Federal Court for gross violations of Mr. Zundel’s Charter Rights. The German publisher seeks an order that the relevant sections of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act – secret hearings, anything can be received in evidence, lack of appeal, and unlimited detention in horrific solitary confinement – are egregious violations of Mr. Zundel’s rights under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and, therefore, these sections of the law are “not saved by section 1 of the Charter and [are] thus of no force or effect pursuant to section 52 of the Constitution Act, 1982.”



The indomitable freedom fighter, Ernst Zundel, and his tenacious lawyers are not giving up.



We continue to need your help: Please send contributions to help Ernst Zundel’s defence to CAFÉ, Box 332, Rexdale, ON., M9W 5L3, Canada or e-mail us your VISA number and expiry date.



Paul Fromm

Director

CANADIAN ASSOCIATION FOR FREE EXPRESSION





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More info on Zundel files suit against Ottawa

Post#8 » Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:36 pm

Zundel files suit against Ottawa
GLOBEANDMAIL.COM

By RICHARD BLACKWELL

Wednesday, November 2, 2005

Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel is suing the federal government for $10-million, claiming he was unjustly held in solitary confinement and deported to Germany.

In a statement of claim filed yesterday, Mr. Zundel said that his treatment at the hands of the government was illegal and unconstitutional.

Mr. Justice Pierre Blais of the Federal Court ruled in February that Mr. Zundel was a threat to national security and that he had tried to develop and maintain a global network of groups with an interest in a "right-wing, extremist, neo-Nazi mindset."

Mr. Zundel was deported to Germany in March, jailed there, and charged with inciting racial hatred.

Judge Blais said it was reasonable to hold Mr. Zundel in jail in Canada under the controversial security certificate process, which allows secret hearings that are closed to the accused and their lawyers.

Government lawyers will try to have Mr. Zundel's suit thrown out at a hearing in the Federal Court on Nov. 23.

Mr. Zundel says in his court filing that the government is trying to block his suit before the Supreme Court of Canada rules on the constitutionality of security certificates.

The top court has said it will examine the issue in two cases involving Hassan Almrei and Adil Charkaoui, who are suspected of being terrorists.

Mr. Zundel's lawyer, Peter Lindsay, said Mr. Zundel was held and deported "based on a process that we argue is blatantly unconstitutional and contrary to every sense of justice that any normal person would have.

"The rules of justice have to apply to everyone, even Ernst Zundel," Mr. Lindsay said.

In his claim, Mr. Zundel said the government's actions caused him "colossal damages arising from his hasty deportation which can neither be mitigated against nor reversed."



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Zundel to face trial in Germany

CJN News Services

3 November 2005

BERLIN — Ernst Zundel, who has been held in a German jail since being deported from Canada last March, will go on trial Nov. 8 in the city of Mannheim on charges of inciting racial hatred.

A longtime white supremacist and Nazi apologist, Zundel is accused of denying the Holocaust – a crime in Germany – in documents and on his website.

From his former home in downtown Toronto, Zundel distributed large amounts of Holocaust-denial documents around the world. He controlled a website – called the “Zundelsite” – based in the United States and available in Germany, that also published materials questioning the Holocaust.

In 2002, a Canadian Human Rights Tribunal found that material on the Zundelsite “viciously targeted” and “vilified” Jews.”

The tribunal ordered Zundel to remove the offending material, but he had moved to Tennessee by the time the tribunal issued its ruling. He was deported back to Canada after overstaying a visitor’s visa and spent two years in custody as federal authorities sought to remove him as a security threat. He was deported in March.

Last week in Prague, the capital of the Czech Republic, about 60 right-wing extremists march in front of the German embassy protesting Zundel’s incarceration. A larger group of 150 counter-protesters rallied to oppose the neo-Nazi group.



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Nazi tones in Howard's anti-terror laws: Fraser
AFraser
Wednesday, 2 November 2005

Former Liberal prime minister Malcolm Fraser has suggested parts of the Howard Government's anti-terror package resemble measures taken by Adolf Hitler and says Kim Beazley's handling of opposition to the package should determine his leadership.

Mr Fraser said he hoped a High Court challenge would be mounted to the terror deal, if and when it was enacted, and said both the presumption of innocence and the right to silence were being challenged by what his former treasurer John Howard was proposing.

"Some of this legislation is truly terrible," he said. "Some of the analogies ... one of the first pieces of legislation Hitler's government put into place was something for 'the good order and safety' of the citizens of Germany: preventive detention ...

"Some parts of the [Australian] legislation sound horribly familiar."

He added preventive detention, under which suspects could not contact their families nor their employers, "seems effectively to be a law to make somebody disappear". "I think that's an odd law for a country like Australia," Mr Fraser said.

He believed the laws as proposed would make Australia more dangerous, diverting police from "what they ought to be doing".

Mr Fraser said Mr Beazley had done nothing to slow down the Government's package. He said the Labor Leader "ought to get roasted by his own party" and praised the "eloquently" made stance of Caucus dissident Carmen Lawrence.

Of Mr Beazley's stance, of ultimate support of the Government's package passing, Mr Fraser said, "Obviously, as a total outsider, I would have thought this would be a defining moment [deciding] if Kim Beazley's leadership continues to go downhill.

"He did it unilaterally, without discussion, and in a way that would be anathema to a lot of people in his own party, if not the majority."

Mr Fraser said the Premiers had been panicked "by a couple of skilful briefings" by security services to support Mr Howard's position on the contention the new laws would have prevented the London bombing in July, a position that was "totally misleading and untrue".

He praised ACT Chief MinisterJon Stanhope for putting a draftof the proposed laws on his web site, allowing public debate.

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Imagine you're Ernst Zündel

Post#9 » Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:59 pm

Imagine you're Ernst Zündel



Saturday, March 5, 2005
Toronto


Imagine that you're 65 years old and you're in jail. In solitary confinement. You are strip-searched whenever you see your lawyer. Once before. Once after. For two years.

Imagine that you're there because two politicians signed a piece of paper ("security certificate") saying that you are a security risk. You are not charged with a crime. You don't have a criminal record. You have lived in Canada for 42 years.

Imagine that those two politicians don't have to be right, so long as a judge thinks that they are "reasonable". So long as they are "reasonable", they can deport you to a country where you go to jail for saying something that you have the right to say in Canada. The Supreme Court of Canada had promised you that right.

Imagine that the prosecutor and the judge get to meet secretly without you and your lawyer and you never find out what they did in secret, what they read, who they saw. Again and again.

Imagine that your lawyer thought he was at a critical point in your trial. He thought the lunch break was longer then usual. Turns out the judge and the prosecutor were having a secret session again while you had lunch. They refuse to tell you or your lawyer what happened.

Imagine that you are accused of causing violence so bad that you are a danger to Canadian national security. When you ask when and where, they say: can't tell you. You ask why not, they say: national security.

Imagine that the judge making so many mistakes that it took more than 100 pages of transcripts to show them all. Imagine the judge making the same mistakes again and again. And always to your detriment. Imagine this judge having the power to deport you and you have no right of appeal.

Imagine that a prominent civil libertarian tells you this process is wrong and he will stand with you to say so, only to back out at the last minute.

Imagine that he comes back as soon as you were deported, condemning this process as your plane left Canada.

Imagine that a judge says she thinks this process is unfair to you and will say so in court, only to change her mind at the last minute.

Imagine that a newspaper counts the number of security certificates and yours is never included. Imagine the moment you have been deported, everyone talks about how awful and illegal security certificates are.

Imagine that the media is suddenly interested in you, as soon as they are sure that you will be deported. Your deportation and upcoming jail time is reported in meticulous detail.

Imagine that this is Canada in 2005 and you've been named in a security certificate.

Imagine that everyone says that security certificates are a disgrace to Canada but somehow it was fine to use one on you.

Imagine that you may be Ernst Zundel, or you may be someone with an opinion disliked by many.

Peter Lindsay & Chi-Kun Shi,

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November 8th 2005 Show Trial of Zundel Begins Today

Post#10 » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:45 pm

Show Trial of Zundel Begins Today

THE HOFFMAN WIRE
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Michael A. Hoffman II, Editor

November 8, 2005

SHOW TRIAL OF ZUNDEL BEGINS TODAY

Like a figure in a Kafka novel, Ernst Zundel is the man who is
perpetually on trial (since 1983, when his right to send mail in Canada
was voided), by a Euro-Canadian-American System that is the enforcement
arm of the religion of Judaism. The latest manifestation, on the eve of
the anniversaries of the Fall of the Belrin Wall in 1989 and
Kristallnacht in 1938, is a blasphemy trial in Mannheim, Germany, a
nation now controlled by the Zionists, for the "crime" of blaspheming
the "Shoah" (holohoax).

Today in Europe and Canada one may say any derogatory thing one desires
about Jesus. His Resurrection and virgin birth may be denied, scorned
and scientifically doubted. But skepticism or satire toward homicidal
gas chambers in Auschwitz is a criminal offense. It is not difficult to
see what the last, truly believed religion in the West is these days. It
is Judaism. Auschwitz has replaced Calvary as the central ontological
event of western history and this would not have been possible without
the assistance of the Protestant television "evangelists" and the
post-Vatican II popes of Rome.

The Zionist media cannot tell the truth about the latest show trial of
Zundel. The medieval rabbinic nature of the prosecution would be too
patent. If they report it at all they will do so in terms of race hate:
"Zundel is a racist who hates the Chosen People and hence invents lies
about Auschwitz." Of course, the fact that countless Judaics, such as
the influential Harvard academic Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, and Nobel
laureate Elie Wiesel (soon to be honored by the Dalai Lama of Tibet),
hate Germans and write lies about them, is not an issue. No one may
interdict Judaic lies about Germans on the basis that they forment hate
for Germany. Such a privilege is the sole province of Judaism.

It is a crime in Germany to write these words and I am told that there
is an arrest warrant --based on my earlier books and columns--awaiting
this writer should I ever set foot on the soil of my ancestors. Kafka
himself could not do justice to this surrealism. --Michael A. Hoffman II

Press Release: Zündel goes on Trial (excerpt)
Sixth Criminal Court

In case against Ernst Z [Zündel] born April 1939.
Defense counsel: Jürgen Rieger, Hamburg lawyer Sylvia Stolz.

Trial opening: Tuesday November 8, 2005, 9 a.m. Continuations on 9th,
15th, 16th and 24th November, 9 a.m. each day.

THE accused is charged, together with his wife Dr Ingrid R [Rimland] who
is being prosecuted [verfolgt: persecuted] separately with having as the
most active, i.e. the leading, so-called "revisionist" from Toronto,
Canada and Pigeon Forge, USA, spread Nazi and anti-Semitic propaganda
most recently in February 2003, via the Internet Homepage [sic]
Zündelsite for which he is responsible and in written publications, in
particular in the Germanic Circulars written and mailed by him,
worldwide, and in Germany too.

He is alleged to have intended to relieve National Socialism of the
stigma of the murder of the Jews, in his messages and writings, in
pseudo-scientific manner, frequently also via hyperlinks in the
Internet, as well as denying the fate of the extermination of the Jews
that was planned by the National Socialist potentates and to have argued
to this end that the mass destruction in Auschwitz, Treblinka, etc., is
an invention of the Jews and serves to oppress and blackmail the German
People.

Over about twenty pages of the indictment are reproduced individual
passages from the "Zündelsite" from 2003, from the accused's manuscript,
"His Struggle for Germany," published in 1999, and from the "Germania
Circulars" from 2000 to 2003, which among others read as follows:

º "Nobody denies the existence of the concentration camps. They were
detention centers with not nearly as many inmates as is generally
claimed. They were not extermination camps. ... It is a sad truth that
tens of thousands of people of various nationalities died in the German
camps, primarily through diseases. ..."

º "The so-called four million [killed in Auschwitz], revised to 1.5
millions, have shriveled to 74,000 proven deaths... Something over
30,000 Jews died at Auschwitz... primarily through illnesses and
overcrowding."

º "Or is it not more a matter of continuing to hold the Germans enslaved
in ceaseless mental, political and economic and financial bondage? To
soften them up for ever newer, scarcely concealed blackmail attempts,
that have already extracted over 100 billion marks for the Holocaust
lobbyists and the members of their race. ... The abuse of Germany and
the Germans must cease."

º "One vital point which most people don't know that that the idea, the
concept and even the planning for the Nuremberg Trials have come from
purely Jewish brains."...

....ALTOGETHER the public prosecutor charges the accused in legal terms
with violations of Sections §§ 130, 185, 189 of the German Penal Code.
Pursuant to these, those who inter alia incite hatred against sections
of the public in a manner conducive to causing a breach of the peace,
will be punished, as will those who attack the human worthiness of
sections of the public, insofar as he insults them, brings them into
contempt with malice aforethought, or defames them. Further violations
of the penal code are the public approval, denial, or minimizing of any
action committed under the National Socialist regime, insofar as this is
conducive to causing a breach of the peace.

The accused was expelled from Canada (right) in February 2005 as persona
non grata, and has been held since March 1, 1945 [eight months: 33
weeks] in investigative custody. The accused is stated to have denied
responsibility for the quotations contained in the indictment, in the
course of the investigative proceedings and elsewhere. The defense
raises doubts as to the constitutionality of § 130 of the German Penal
Code.

The investigations of the Mannheim Public Prosecutor began around 1996.
The responsibility of the Mannheim public prosecutor arises from the
fact that the "Zundelsite" website can also be downloaded from the
Internet in Mannheim; from which fact the applicability of the Mannheim
District Court is also derived.

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Latest Nov 15th Letter from Ernst

Post#11 » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:42 pm

Truth seeks the light, it doesn’t shun it

Ernst Zündel,
JVA Mannheim,
68169 Mannheim.
15th November 2005

Dear Ernst,

Hello ‘old’ comrade! Thank you for your letter which was as warmly received as the earlier one. I am following your ‘trial’ through the Internet but otherwise I won’t comment as to do so would be superfluous. What could I say that we and the rest of the enlightened world don’t know already? As Horace Mann, the America educator surmised: truth seeks the light, it doesn’t shun it.

I have also come to realise that such letters as mine are probably more useful to your gaolers and tormentors than they are to you. They use them to glean information; to discover who your ‘co-conspirators’ are (as they would see it). Theirs is a dark world similar to Golum’s but it is their choice so have little sympathy for them. The Berlin Wall came down simply because it was superfluous to requirements; the mind-set had just been pushed further west, to the Atlantic shores.

Our problem, from our political standpoint, is that we were too naïve, far too trusting. As a young idealist I used to organise massive marches through London and elsewhere. Later on, as I matured, I realised that all I was doing was organising mass identity parades for those who had sold their souls to the state. In my youthful idealism I couldn’t believe that such people truly existed. Every age has had nation-betrayers.

All we have to compensate for our folly is the realisation that our detractors dig their own graves; happy to do so as long as the state (with their taxes) pays for the shovels and spades. So just who is stupid?

I regret nothing at all and I will go to MY Maker with a totally clearly conscience as you will. They cannot imprison truth, an ideal or cultural aspiration. They can imprison the physical being but not the intellect. As I wrote in an earlier letter – inasmuch as the intellect is far more important than the physical being – the man who puts the truth-seeker in gaol knows in his heart that he has just turned the key on himself.

And the outcome? Nature does not look kindly on the weak but a pity that they may drag some of us down with them along with their own families.
Good luck in everything Ernst Zundel. You are much nearer to God when you are in a cell than those who, for the time being at least, have the ‘freedom’ to reside in the slightly larger cage with the few extra breadcrumbs thrown for their ‘good behaviour’.

Always remember that the greatest pioneers of human endeavour and freedom suffered greatly for the rest of us.

From long before Jesus Christ, and through the ages, so many unjustly maligned, but their ideas even so, inspired greater things, whilst those who imprisoned them lie forgotten, festering in their graves; God alone knows where their tortured souls reside.

Of England, Nietsche opined, ‘The Land of Consummate Cant.’ How true and never as glaringly evident as Sunday’s Remembrance Day circus. All these parading old bats, wallowing in the glory of their having saved our way of life – before making their way home down litter-strewn foul-mouth muggers alley; and the biggest mugger of all? Their own Government!

To be intellectually free as we are is to be the one-eyed man in the land of the blind, Ernst.

You talk of the state taking lives! Yes! A never ending succession of them; it is what they do best and of course I touched on this subject in ‘Round One to the Barbarians’. If the destruction of 40,000,000 Russians is a mere statistic, and the annihilation of thirteen million Germans and Europeans after the war’s end is a footnote to history, then the murder of individuals is of no consequence at all.

I just wonder how long it will be before our own George Galloway, MP, thorn in the side of the pro-Iraq war lobby, has a ‘heart attack.’ He has all the symptoms; he smokes, he drinks – ah, and he effectively exposes Israel’s lickspittles. The man clearly has a death wish.

What can I say to comfort you, old friend? Out here in ‘freedom world’ we face a day-to-day struggle to survive; we are all hamsters on the wheel so never be under the illusion that our situation is much better than yours. It isn’t; it is just a little different - that is all.

Yes, we have the pleasure of tipping a glass of wine, or going for a walk in a park, seeing those who are dearest to us. But in so many respects you can lay claim to being freer than we are.

For more than three-hundred years after His murder Jesus Christ was reviled; His name not mentioned unless accompanied by spittle. Yet every civilised landscape is, 2,000 years after his murder, dotted by cathedrals to his life.

In respect of human evolution it’s just the blink of an eyelid since effigies of the Pope were burned each year. Now the offspring of those papal tormentors flock to Rome in their millions. Nothing adequately explains the stupidity and duplicity of the human condition; it can be so exasperating for the enlightened.

I have no doubt whatsoever that the day will come when plazas, squares and great avenues will be named after our martyrs; their names revered and etched in stone and hearts; but only when the stone-hearts who gaol you come to their senses. Stay calm, Ernst, we are all in the cell with you in a manner of speaking – and freedom will prevail.
Your friend,

Michael.
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THE HERESY TRIAL OF THE 21st CENTURY

MANNHEIM, GERMANY



ERNST ZÜNDEL



Third HOLOCAUST Trial Mannheim, Germany

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Britain's Ian Buckley On The Trials of Ernst Zundel

Post#12 » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:45 am

Britain's Ian Buckley On The Trials of Ernst Zundel
"God have mercy on mankind!"
http://www.rense.com/general68/buckleyonzundel.htm
By Ian Buckley
11-26-5


At the outset, it should be noted that this piece is in no sense a substitute for Paul Eisen's excellent and exhaustive "The Holocaust Wars." Rather, it is a personal reflection upon the growing lack of freedom in the Western world, as illustrated by the story of one man. Though it is the story of one man, it applies to us all, as the mistreatment once handed down to those handily designated and demonized as 'extremists' and 'cultists' is extended more and more to ordinary citizens.

Ladies and Gentleman, the New World Order is on your doorstep. Open resistance brings down a rain of fire as at Fallujah, while in the outer ring of indirect, diffuse oppression, more subtle methods than mass murder usually prevail.

'Terror' and fear of 'terror' - which is anyway largely sponsored and created by government intelligence agencies - means acquiescence as acres of streets in the city of Leeds are sealed off or tanks ring Heathrow Airport. Even English country towns are monitored and secured, under perpetual watch by veritable forests of security cameras on poles.

Indeed it's fortunate that Zundel is still around to face the Mannheim trial, when one bears in mind the dismal and sinister fate that often befalls very high-profile dissenters when they fall into the hands of the injustice system. Such was the case even in the Eisenhower era : in this context one thinks of psychologist Wilhelm Reich, the originator of the wonderful term 'Hoodlums in Government' or HIGs, a phrase which is much more applicable now than in Reich's days. Or of Francis Parker Yockey, widely accused of being both pro-Communist and pro-Nazi, but more likely a fellow of philosophical bent unenamoured of liberal capitalism.

Reading through a selection of Ernst Zundel's letters from prison, you may feel that he has descended as a witness into the dismal and deadly underbelly of so-called democracy. Ernst notes the following incident during his stay at the Ottawa Detention Center, which he - quite justifiably - nicknamed 'Abu Ghraib North' :

'One young Negro died in the cell next to me. Why? He must have had some seizure or breathing difficulties. The guards shouted, danced around and taunted him. I saw him the day before. He was athletic, had good muscle tone like many young Blacks who are in far better physical shape than Whites - yet I saw him through my little 8 1/2 by 11 cell observation window, carried out of his cell limp like a dish rag, dumped unto a gurney, electric shock applied to his heart, given an injection, given CPR, oxygen - the fellow was dead!'

What is prison, if not a place where society attempts - and fails - to hide its true face, its real nature? Are not many of the 'cons' little more than victims of a harsh, commercialised and globalized environment? The outer jail is 'society', while the inner one is prison itself. Over two million Americans are now incarcerated; something to think about when you hear those vain and bombastic State of the Union addresses.

Ernst again :

'Four big guards came in the afternoon. Ordered me out of my cell with my stuff, took me to the corridor, threw my mental cellmate on the floor, kicked him, pummelled him 'til he was dragged along the halls, bleeding and screaming. Eventually, I was put into the general population, which meant three times out of the cell.'

Ernst Zundel's initial arrest came over two years ago, a short while before the start of the US-UK assault on Iraq. A posse of immigration officials - some of them armed - descended upon his home in rural Tennessee. A little excessive, perhaps, when the 'villain' concerned is a life-long pacifist and the ostensible charge he faces is a mere visa violation! By all normal standards, as his wife Ingrid is an American citizen, Zundel should enjoy legal status, and not be subject to arbitrary harassment in this way. Incidentally, as a pacifist, Ernst Zundel would make quite an unusual 'Nazi'.

After the arrest, he entered into a nether world of leg irons, a cell with a perpetually glowing light and a regime of ridiculous, pettifogging regulations - such as being forbidden access to Post-it notes and marker pens. And all for what?

The ostensible charge in America was a violation of immigration rules. In Canada, Zundel was officially some sort of (undefined) threat to national security. But in essence, Ernst Zundel is being accused of heresy. He has challenged a dogma of the 'Church' and the 'Empire' prosecutes and persecutes.

We are all different, and have varying political ideals and viewpoints. For example, I don't share Zundel's almost instinctive anti-Communism. To my mind, there is something to be said for Communism when mixed with national patriotism, as seen in Fidel's Cuba or the latter years of the USSR. At least such nations provide - or did provide - full employment, universal health care, and a sense of community.

But for three centuries or more, opinion was sacred. The idea that no man or woman should be arrested for their thoughts or beliefs was an essential part of a civilised society. But Zundel has endured over two years in jail, and faces the possibility of much more jail time, solely because of his opinions on the events of World War II. I say 'solely', but - who knows - maybe his pamphlet "The West, War and Islam" also contributed to his arrest as a 'Public Enemy'.

In "The West, War and Islam" he warns that '..distorted viewpoints are deliberately being used and often magnified to goad the West into a future criminal war against the Islamic world.'

Huh, completely wrong there, Ernst!

Jesting aside, Zundel 'denies' much less than some might imagine, saying that: 'It is absolutely true that Jews were incarcerated and often treated cruelly. They were seen as the enemy, just as in our times the "Nazis" are seen as the enemy of entrenched oligarchies.' He just disbelieves in the existence of extermination gas chambers, after initiating some first hand research on the matter. Surely the normal, rational procedure would be have honest, open debate on this subject, and not to suppress one side of the argument. Suspicion must always fall on those who attempt to silence their opponents.

One very important statement on the case was made by Dr. Roger Dommergue from France, who had this to say to American officials:

'I have known M. Zundel these last 20 years, and as a Jew I felt compelled to check what he said and published. I became conscious of the fact that he was a most distinguished mind, that he told the truth and that I could understand why my all-powerful peers did not like him! I feel that a country in which he resides can be proud of having him. Please give him back his liberty in the country of liberty, and keep away from the totalitarianism of my worst peers who think they have all the rights because of their financial and political power.'

All true, of course, but Zundel was still railroaded back to Germany, after high-level twisting of the law had taken place in both the USA and Canada. There his trial began just a week ago, on the 8th November, with Zundel's first thoughts just before its start being for others : 'This judgment is important for other imprisoned idealists / human rights activists - people who struggle for their human and civil rights in Germany and beyond!'

The trial itself has an interesting feature in that the defence team must weave a delicate ballet, for if they seem to share the heretic's views, then they too are subject to arrest. It is like the return of Galileo!

However, unlike the deluded American and British dole queue conscripts now occupying Iraq, Zundel has one great consolation:

"At least I have the privilege of understanding the forces which took hold of me. God have mercy on mankind!"

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Zundel Holocaust Heresy Trial Resumes February 9

Post#13 » Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:54 pm

Zundel Holocaust Heresy Trial Resumes February 9

From Ingrid Rimland
12-31-5

The Holocaust Heresy Trial is about to continue on its Journey of Destiny after a very sputtering start. Word has just reached me that hearings will re-open on February 9.

To all you dedicated Zundel-Watchers: Please mark your calendar.

The matter of the "mandatory lawyer(s)" has still not been fully resolved. As Zundelsite readers will remember, the court tried to graft not only one but two (!!) attorneys of their choosing onto the Zundel team of three, even though our own three top notch, well-informed attorneys, you would think, should have been more than sufficient.

That attempt at not "packing the court" but "packing the defense" was apparently nixed - even though each one of our own attorneys were held to be suspect of harboring politically incorrect notions. Tsk. Tsk.

On Christmas Day I received a very welcome call from a friendly gentleman of our preferred persuasion who has heroically defended Holocaust heretics before, and who has been approved as "mandatory lawyer." (Maybe a second one of "their" persuasion is still lurking in the wings?)

Now this:

It pains me to report to you that after one severe restriction of Ernst's voluminous mail - I guess because he gets too many friendly letters from his friends all over the world - a second one has now been ordered, even though we had already scored a partial victory. After we protested to a higher court, it lifted all restrictions on "letters to a spouse", and thus I was the temporary beneficiary of Letters-by-the-Bundle!

But no more than 5 pages per letter, said the official document - court seal, official letterhead and all.

For a brief time, I was happily treated to a 5-page letter per day. And since Ernst soon discovered that his prodigious output required sometimes ten, sometimes fifteen or more pages to round off a point he wished to make clear, he wrote me two or sometimes even three 5-page letters per day!

Whereupon the powers that be thought of another crafty solution to plug up the Zundel spirit: Presto! Ration postage stamps! That'll teach the Power Couple not to talk to each other so often!

What now? Another costly trip to higher court?

What a trail of pettiness left by a so-called civilized country!

More than any other event I can think of, Ernst's arrest has exposed to the world the hideous fact that Germany is really just a colony of Israel. So now you know! Let others know!

I shall miss Ernst's flood of letters, because each letter was a glimpse into yet one more facet of an amazingly versatile mind that always sees the world in novel ways. For instance, ponder this one:

"It's amazing what that statement about Israel made by the President of Iran has evoked here in the German media! Blown fuses!!! A reaction totally out of all proportion to what the man allegedly said.
The hysterical reaction to that Iranian is proof that they are being spooked - talk about being panicky! - and just wait until [David] Irving, Germar [Rudolf], [Siegfried] Verbeke, Ernst and others have their trials.

"Now that we see leading revisionists fall like dominoes, and all are magically ending up in a country where there are mechanisms, laws, and precedents in place that guarantee the silencing of these people - only imbeciles would still not see the unseen hand in all of this. [For instance], the kidnapping of this man, Masri, is far bigger news than [rendition victim] Arar's in Canada - and yet, Arar's treatment is partly responsible for the defeat of Paul Martin's government in Canada. Ingrid, we are like the yeast in all of this dough!

"It's the nightmare of every crook, con man and liar - to be found out! The Age of Truth demands to be born - and, Ingrid, it will! The birth is overdue!"

So, let us toast to that. Let's hope that 2006 will bring us one mile nearer to the Truth, and let us watch the Lie destroy itself like a snake devouring its tail.

That is my wish - and resolution.

No surrender!

Ingrid

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Latest from the ZUNDEL wire Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:42:54 -0800

Post#14 » Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:31 pm

A Zundel letter from the German Gulag

This letter was written to Yvonne, sister of Dr. Robert Faurisson of France, both long-time intimate friends of Ernst's who understand certain topics without having to have them spelled out.

For a more general audience, it needs to be explained that when Ernst writes of forbidden topics, he is of course referring to topics pertaining to the Holocaust - a word he is apparently not allowed to mention critically in « democratic » Germany!

The « footnote in history » comment refers to a comment by French nationalist leader Le Pen, who found himself in very hot political water a few years ago for this disparaging description of the Holocaust.

Here is Ernst's letter, as always edited and slightly shortened by me to sharpen readability:

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Ernst Zündel
JVA Mannheim
Herzogenriedstr. 111
68169 MANNHEIM
Germany

6 Jan. 2006

As to letters - one Christmas letter, which came just a few days before Christmas, was confiscated. I do not know its content - it was signed R.F. During the second week of Christmas, 31 letters or pieces of mail were received at the prison in one day! I was given 11 pieces, most of which were greeting cards. Only two were what I call substantial letters, one from my brother and one from Ingrid, my brave wife - the rest were just two, three words, a few sentences at most, Christmas greetings, New Year's wishes. All enclosures of any mentally stimulating or interesting nature are rigorously withheld from me. That tells me more about the German mind-set than could a thousand treatises about the state of human freedom in my pitiful homeland!

Here is my answer, emphatically stated: Whatever else you do, do not come to Germany, not under any illusion of safe conduct! This entity, and its population, has had 60 years to free itself from its mental shackles. [The Germans] are not in this situation for lack of knowing what the facts are - they are, to one degree or another, willfully blind out of cowardice, not out of ignorance of the facts! More truth will not make me, or them, more free - it will only make them more afraid, increasing their cowardice exponentially! Fear and cowardice have their own rules. Fearful people are in a labyrinth of terror, usually of their own making!

The Americans have a very deep, meaningful saying: «The coward dies a thousand deaths - the brave man only once.»! I have often wondered about my own people, out of whose [midst] I was born. Why this fear? How can one explain the heroism of these people in war - and their abject and continued cowardice when confronting the facts of their own history?

I have no degree in psychology, I have no files here and no medical books to prove my theory, but I am sure that there must be a medical condition called «Schuld-und-Sühne Complex». [Transl. : A craving for guilt and redemption.] Like any such affliction - like gambling addiction, alcoholism, drug dependency - the patient first has to admit that he has a problem - if he does not, all therapies will fail. No amount of sacrifice [on my part] for decades, almost a half century, has generated a ground-swell of meaningful self-liberation - I am afraid that to expect any change in this situation would be a cruel self-delusion.

How do I know? How can I be so sure? That's easy to answer. I was afflicted by the same condition. I also know how difficult it is to heal oneself through auto-detoxification or self-deprogramming. I remember what terrible withdrawal symptoms I had to cope with - and, yes, I had numerous relapses along the way. And I was young - my «Weltbild», my picture of the world and history, was not yet very deeply engrained, as it would be with others who by now have had 61 years of this incessant bombardment with only one version of an event, to which ever fewer remaining eyewitnesses exist. Our witnesses, that is!

I want you to understand that I will not discuss the topics that will activate a Pavlovian response because I want you to receive this letter. All letters are highly scrutinized, analyzed and mined; all are combed for things I may express, which then will be used in court against me. But one thing is really already clear - a spin-off side effect to my persecution has started, unforeseen by my pursuers! It surprises even me in its scope - and especially in its intensity. That is far more important and far more fundamental, and that spin-off side effect is [the scrutiny of] the legitimacy of the system - never mind the legitimacy of the process [in my court case] being employed!

Internationally, very few people outside a very, very narrow specialty in international law, paid much attention to the «footnote of history» as J. M. Le Pen would say, of just how this entity came into being, who were its fathers, mothers. (We know the midwivesŠ) This «footnote in history» is one of the founding myths [of post-war Germany] which is now suddenly being examined - in the full light of the publicity of [my court] proceedings. It's almost like future doctors sitting in an amphit theater watching a forensic pathologist or a professor of anatomy dissect a corpse or cadaver - this time a state - to see what its background and political history are! And that process was very rarely discussed or examined by a larger public - now it is!

That's the last thing these forces [in the background] would have liked to take place - for it is an issue which is fraught with a comet's tail of judicial, legal, political and diplomatic implications. Compared to that problem, the other issue is peripheral. It really has been settled in 1988 [with the Leuchter Report].

So I am looking forward with interest as to how this «wild card» in the game will be dealt with. This surprise spin-off result is a bit like a steel ball in one of the old American arcade pin ball machines. Once the lever is pulled, the ball becomes unpredictable as to where it will hit, what bells and lights it will set off, as it winds itself through that confined [court room] where the action will take place!

Suddenly, what [used to be] an obscure topic of a few specialists in international law and international affairs becomes the subject of heated discussions on websites the world over. Tens of millions of visitors to websites like rense.com, whatreallyhappened.com and others are awash in a debate everybody thought had been settled a long, long time ago!

This debate is [our] victory! And my role in all this is to be quietly sitting in the eye of the hurricane and watch in amazement as the fireworks go off all around me!

Amazing development!

That's a short overview of what's up! My own fate is of peripheral interest only to Ingrid, me, and my friends. There are few variables possible, because [the outcome] is really only a matter of routine performance to a foregone conclusion. But since I had no illusions, only the naive and the uninformed will be surprised. I am not, and will not be!

That brings me to the comments coming out of Iran in the last few weeks and months. I was utterly stunned, but not by what was allegedly said. What surprised me far more was the absolutely, out of all proportions to the content, reaction in the Western world. Nowhere else!

Please note - nowhere that I am aware of did anybody say anything, much less do anything, to rein in their friend or ally, Iran. Putin's Russia, a big arms supplier and trading partner, did not say a peep! China, which has signed an enormously big oil exploration resources agreement with Iran, worth between 35 to $50 billion, said nothing, not a word of criticism. Neither did India, Pakistan, any Arab (Moslem) country, Africa, or Latin America.

I think the deafening silence from around the world from the most populous states and regions to the Iranian leader's outburst spoke very loudly. In politics it is very often not as important what the facts of any issue are - far more important is the perception of the facts!

«In politics», Charles de Gaulle was fond in saying, «Nations know no friends - only interests.»
The erosion of the old world order is accelerating. New power centers, new super-powers with vast populations are forming. They could not care less about a «footnote to history», a mere blip on the radar screen of their ambitions! Oil is an interest of great importance. So are markets for arms and industrial goods. Of what worth, real worth, or strategic value are the temper tantrums of a spoiled beggar client state on a small sliver of rocks and dust in that area of the world?

I was, and am, like the biblical Samson!

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Post#15 » Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:33 pm

A Zundel letter from the German Gulag

This letter was written to Yvonne, sister of Dr. Robert Faurisson of France, both long-time intimate friends of Ernst's who understand certain topics without having to have them spelled out.

For a more general audience, it needs to be explained that when Ernst writes of forbidden topics, he is of course referring to topics pertaining to the Holocaust - a word he is apparently not allowed to mention critically in « democratic » Germany!

The « footnote in history » comment refers to a comment by French nationalist leader Le Pen, who found himself in very hot political water a few years ago for this disparaging description of the Holocaust.

Here is Ernst's letter, as always edited and slightly shortened by me to sharpen readability:

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Ernst Zündel
JVA Mannheim
Herzogenriedstr. 111
68169 MANNHEIM
Germany

6 Jan. 2006

As to letters - one Christmas letter, which came just a few days before Christmas, was confiscated. I do not know its content - it was signed R.F. During the second week of Christmas, 31 letters or pieces of mail were received at the prison in one day! I was given 11 pieces, most of which were greeting cards. Only two were what I call substantial letters, one from my brother and one from Ingrid, my brave wife - the rest were just two, three words, a few sentences at most, Christmas greetings, New Year's wishes. All enclosures of any mentally stimulating or interesting nature are rigorously withheld from me. That tells me more about the German mind-set than could a thousand treatises about the state of human freedom in my pitiful homeland!

Here is my answer, emphatically stated: Whatever else you do, do not come to Germany, not under any illusion of safe conduct! This entity, and its population, has had 60 years to free itself from its mental shackles. [The Germans] are not in this situation for lack of knowing what the facts are - they are, to one degree or another, willfully blind out of cowardice, not out of ignorance of the facts! More truth will not make me, or them, more free - it will only make them more afraid, increasing their cowardice exponentially! Fear and cowardice have their own rules. Fearful people are in a labyrinth of terror, usually of their own making!

The Americans have a very deep, meaningful saying: «The coward dies a thousand deaths - the brave man only once.»! I have often wondered about my own people, out of whose [midst] I was born. Why this fear? How can one explain the heroism of these people in war - and their abject and continued cowardice when confronting the facts of their own history?

I have no degree in psychology, I have no files here and no medical books to prove my theory, but I am sure that there must be a medical condition called «Schuld-und-Sühne Complex». [Transl. : A craving for guilt and redemption.] Like any such affliction - like gambling addiction, alcoholism, drug dependency - the patient first has to admit that he has a problem - if he does not, all therapies will fail. No amount of sacrifice [on my part] for decades, almost a half century, has generated a ground-swell of meaningful self-liberation - I am afraid that to expect any change in this situation would be a cruel self-delusion.

How do I know? How can I be so sure? That's easy to answer. I was afflicted by the same condition. I also know how difficult it is to heal oneself through auto-detoxification or self-deprogramming. I remember what terrible withdrawal symptoms I had to cope with - and, yes, I had numerous relapses along the way. And I was young - my «Weltbild», my picture of the world and history, was not yet very deeply engrained, as it would be with others who by now have had 61 years of this incessant bombardment with only one version of an event, to which ever fewer remaining eyewitnesses exist. Our witnesses, that is!

I want you to understand that I will not discuss the topics that will activate a Pavlovian response because I want you to receive this letter. All letters are highly scrutinized, analyzed and mined; all are combed for things I may express, which then will be used in court against me. But one thing is really already clear - a spin-off side effect to my persecution has started, unforeseen by my pursuers! It surprises even me in its scope - and especially in its intensity. That is far more important and far more fundamental, and that spin-off side effect is [the scrutiny of] the legitimacy of the system - never mind the legitimacy of the process [in my court case] being employed!

Internationally, very few people outside a very, very narrow specialty in international law, paid much attention to the «footnote of history» as J. M. Le Pen would say, of just how this entity came into being, who were its fathers, mothers. (We know the midwivesŠ) This «footnote in history» is one of the founding myths [of post-war Germany] which is now suddenly being examined - in the full light of the publicity of [my court] proceedings. It's almost like future doctors sitting in an amphit theater watching a forensic pathologist or a professor of anatomy dissect a corpse or cadaver - this time a state - to see what its background and political history are! And that process was very rarely discussed or examined by a larger public - now it is!

That's the last thing these forces [in the background] would have liked to take place - for it is an issue which is fraught with a comet's tail of judicial, legal, political and diplomatic implications. Compared to that problem, the other issue is peripheral. It really has been settled in 1988 [with the Leuchter Report].

So I am looking forward with interest as to how this «wild card» in the game will be dealt with. This surprise spin-off result is a bit like a steel ball in one of the old American arcade pin ball machines. Once the lever is pulled, the ball becomes unpredictable as to where it will hit, what bells and lights it will set off, as it winds itself through that confined [court room] where the action will take place!

Suddenly, what [used to be] an obscure topic of a few specialists in international law and international affairs becomes the subject of heated discussions on websites the world over. Tens of millions of visitors to websites like rense.com, whatreallyhappened.com and others are awash in a debate everybody thought had been settled a long, long time ago!

This debate is [our] victory! And my role in all this is to be quietly sitting in the eye of the hurricane and watch in amazement as the fireworks go off all around me!

Amazing development!

That's a short overview of what's up! My own fate is of peripheral interest only to Ingrid, me, and my friends. There are few variables possible, because [the outcome] is really only a matter of routine performance to a foregone conclusion. But since I had no illusions, only the naive and the uninformed will be surprised. I am not, and will not be!

That brings me to the comments coming out of Iran in the last few weeks and months. I was utterly stunned, but not by what was allegedly said. What surprised me far more was the absolutely, out of all proportions to the content, reaction in the Western world. Nowhere else!

Please note - nowhere that I am aware of did anybody say anything, much less do anything, to rein in their friend or ally, Iran. Putin's Russia, a big arms supplier and trading partner, did not say a peep! China, which has signed an enormously big oil exploration resources agreement with Iran, worth between 35 to $50 billion, said nothing, not a word of criticism. Neither did India, Pakistan, any Arab (Moslem) country, Africa, or Latin America.

I think the deafening silence from around the world from the most populous states and regions to the Iranian leader's outburst spoke very loudly. In politics it is very often not as important what the facts of any issue are - far more important is the perception of the facts!

«In politics», Charles de Gaulle was fond in saying, «Nations know no friends - only interests.»
The erosion of the old world order is accelerating. New power centers, new super-powers with vast populations are forming. They could not care less about a «footnote to history», a mere blip on the radar screen of their ambitions! Oil is an interest of great importance. So are markets for arms and industrial goods. Of what worth, real worth, or strategic value are the temper tantrums of a spoiled beggar client state on a small sliver of rocks and dust in that area of the world?

I was, and am, like the biblical Samson!

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