Antarctic Fossil Forests

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Antarctic Fossil Forests

Post#1 » Sat May 07, 2011 4:29 am

These things shouldnt be possible according to evilutionists.
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Antarctica was not always so cold and remote. Geologist Molly Miller of Vanderbilt University discovered, in the Beardmore Glacier area of Antarctica, the remains of three ancient deciduous forests complete with fossils of fallen leafs scattered around the petrified tree stumps "These were not scrubby little things," Miller said. "These were big trees." Unlike any trees today, Glossopteris trees lived in stands as thick as almost a thousand per acre just 20 or 25 degrees from the South Pole, latitude at which today they would have received no sunlight for half the year. This powerful evidence that when they grew the Antarctic was in a semi tropical zone. As for what they looked like, Glossopteris tapered upwards like a Christmas tree. Instead of needles, they had large, broad lance-shaped leaves that fell to the ground at the end of summer

Miller says they lived at a time when the Antarctic climate was much warmer. Some are estimated to have attained heights of 80 feet (24.6 meters), based on their trunk diameter. Miller, Tim Cully and graduate student Nichole Knepprath came upon the three stands of the lost forests in December 2003These trees are alive today but only grow in warm moist areas such as Queensland Australia. The change that caused the electric fossilization of the trees probably resulted in a dramatic effect which most likely caused severe climate change . The same process would have destroyed the fossils of marsupials discovered underneath Antarctic ice .

Antarctic also harbors bones of extinct marsupials and Dinosaurs with massive coal beds full of once flourishing flora and fauna. The find consists of three inch-long jawbones, each with two or three teeth, that belonged to two berry-eating creatures of an extinct marsupial species called Polydolopus. The bones were dated to the Eocene epoch, and were similar to those of marsupials known to have flourished in South America at the time. They were recognized instantly by Dr. Michael P. Woodburne, a vertebrate paleontologist at the University of California at Riverside, who is an authority on marsupials.

The fossils were found on Seymour Island at the northeastern tip of the Antarctic peninsula, which points toward the southern tip of South America. The team chose the island because it is free of ice and snow in the Antarctic summer and has the right kind of rock for preserving fossil remains. They also found numerous fossils of ancient lizards, giant penguins, bony fishes and plesiosaurs, huge marine reptiles that swam with paddle-like flippers.

The classic interpretation that these fossils came from the Permian age is disputed by many revisionist geologists. New laboratory experiments are showing that fossilization is a rapid process under certain conditions. Furthermore new evidence is at hand that electric fossilization is the probably tool of fossilization and this has generally been ignored ignored. High voltage electricity either from within the earth or from cosmogenic effects such as comets, coronal mass ejections ,planets in disturbed motion or nebulae interactions from outside the universe may be the major cause of petrifaction and fossilization.

What dies is thus quickly recycled biotically, unless some geological intervention occurs. And this intervention that fossilizes is almost always connected to the cause of death. The fossil record therefore is distorted as to populations of the species and to a lesser degree to the kinds and numbers of species. A fossil is typically an accident, a disaster, an anomaly. This precisely describes the process of electric fossilization. Little is known about fossilization, and less is realized. Ardrey mentions that the waters of Lake Victoria (Africa) were once fossilizing animals quickly and well because of some unknown quality probably not now present.

E.R. Milton describes his examination of a petrified tree trunk in Alberta (Canada)

"The piece... was pure clear silica inside, it was coated with a rougher opaque crust of partially fused sand. The tree whose stump was petrified was alive five years ago! After the tree was cut down to accommodate the right of way for a new power transmission line, an accidental break allowed the live high-voltage wire to contact several tree stumps still in the ground. The power was cut off within hours of the break. All of the tree roots which contacted the broken wire were fossilized. Obviously, electricity can metamorphose matter quickly."

Peter Mungo Jupp



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Oronteus Fineus map of an ice free Antarctica

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The Oronteus Fineus map was also incredibly precise. The Oronteus Fineus map showed an ice free Antartica with no ice-cap.It was drawn in the year 1532. There are also maps showing Greenland as two separated islands, as it was confirmed by a polar French expedition which found out that there is an ice cap quite thick joining what it is actually two islands. Another amazing chart is the one drawn by the Turkish Hadji Ahmed, year 1559, in which he shows a land stripe, about 1600 Km. wide, that joins Alaska and Siberia. Such a natural bridge has been then covered by the water due to the end of the glacial period, which rose up the sea level.

As we saw, many charts in the ancient times pictured, we might say, all the earth geography. They seem to be pieces of a very ancient world wide map, drawn by unknown people who were able to use technology that we consider to be a conquer of the very modern times. At a time when human beings were supposedly living in a primitive manner, someone "put on paper" the whole geography of the earth. And this common knowledge somehow fell into pieces, then gathered here and there by several people, who had lost though the knowledge, and just copied what they could find in libraries, bazaars, markets and about all kind of places.

Hapgood made a disclosure which amazingly lead further on this road: he found out a cartographic document copied by an older source carved on a rock column, China, year 1137. It showed the same high level of technology of the other western charts, the same grid method, the same use of spheroid trigonometry. It has so many common points with the western ones that it makes think more than reasonably, that there had to be a common source: could it be a lost civilization, maybe the same one which has been chased by thousands years so far?

Oronteus Fineus map summary


The Piri Re'is map is often exhibited in cases seeking to prove that civilization was once advanced and that, through some unknown event or events, we are only now gaining any understanding of this mysterious cultural decline. The earliest known civilization, the Sumerians in Mesopotamia, appear out of nowhere around 4,000 B.C. but have no nautical or maritime cultural heritage. They do, however, speak reverently of ancestral people who were like the "gods" and were known as the nefilim.
Here is a summary of some of the most unusual findings about the map: Scrutiny of the map shows that the makers knew the accurate circumference of the Earth to within 50 miles.
The coastline and island that are shown in Antarctica must have been navigated at some period prior to 4,000 B.C. when these areas were free of ice from the last Ice Age.

Piri Re'is own commentary indicates that some of his source maps were from the time of Alexander the Great (332 B.C.).

The Oronteus Finaeus Map of Antarctica redrawn on the modern equidistant azimuthal polar projection, compares with the modern map of Antarctica on the same projection (Christian Science Monitor).

A comparison of the Oronteus Finaeus Map with the map of the subglacial land surfaces of Antarctica produced by survey teams or various nations during the International Geophysical Year (1958) seems to explain some of the apparent short-comings of the ice free Antartica Oronteus Finaeus Map, and at the same time throws some light on the question of the probable extent of glacial conditions when the original maps were drawn. In 1959, however, in the Library of Congress, Hapgood noticed a presumably authentic map that instantly wiped out his doubts: a map of what was almost certainly Antarctica, done in 1531 by the French cartographer Oronce Fine, also known as Oronteus Finaeus.To even the most skeptical, the Oronteus Finaeus map is startling. Although it was printed in a book in 1531 - and was thus not subject to subsequent amendment - it is remarkably similar to today's maps of Antarctica. Admittedly it is too close to the tip of South America, and it is incorrectly oriented, yet the proportions seem similar, the coastal mountains, found in the 1957 geophysical study are in roughly the right places and so are many bays and rivers. Furthermore, the shape of South America itself seems right, and the close resemblance between a modern, scientifically exact map of the Ross Sea and Finaeus' unnamed gulf is striking.

What is different, however, is that the Oronteus Finaeus map does not seem to show the great shelves of ice that, today, surround the continent, nor the great glaciers that fringe the coastal regions. Instead there seem to be estuaries and inlets, suggesting great rivers. To Hapgood and his team, that meant that at some time in the past the Ross Sea and its coasts - scene of the November, 1979 air disaster on Mount Erebus - and some of the hinterland of Antarctica were free of ice. It also suggested to Hapgood that since the Antarctic was certainly ice-bound in 1531 - when Oronteus Finaeus made his map - Finaeus must have had access to very ancient maps indeed: maps made when Antarctica was largely free of the mile-thick ice cap that buries it today, and presumably has covered it for millennia.
There is, moreover, the perplexing problem of the Oronteus Finaeus map. Even if Piri Reis "Antarctica" turns out to be South America - drawn horizontally - or even Australia, the Finnaeus "Antarctica" is surely Antarctica and his map was also drawn in the 16th century: 1531. Where did Oronteus Finaeus get his far more detailed and accurate information? Was it the libraries of Alexandria now buried under the sea?And why does Finaeus also show Antarctica without an ice cap? Furthermore, the Hapgood team identified 50 geographical points on the Finaeus map, as re-projected, whose latitudes and longitudes were located quite accurately in latitude and longitude, some of them quite close to the pole. "The mathematical probability against this being accidental," says Hapgood, "is astronomical"
So how did this happen to be recorded in not one but at least four maps? Either our "known" history of human beings on this planet is wrong, our 'history' of our planet's development is wrong, there were highly developed civilizations on Earth that we are ignoring because it doesn't fit into the established "norm" or the ancient maps that predated these and were used as reference were done by alien cartographers or someone - drawing our planet from the air.

Another tidbit of proof is the Ross sea. Today huge glaciers feed into it, making it a floating ice shelf hundreds of feet thick. Yet this map and the Reis map show estuaries and rivers at the site. In 1949 coring was done to take samples of the ice and sediment at the bottom of the Ross Sea. They clearly showed several layers of stratification, meaning the area went through several environmental changes. Some of the sediments were of the type usually brought down to the sea by rivers. Tests done at the Carnegie Institute in Washington DC, which date radioactive elements found in sea water, dated the sediments at about 4000 BC, which would mean the area was ice free with flowing rivers up until that time - exactly what is recorded on the Reis and Oronteus Finaeus maps probably from the libraries of Alexandria.

To put it another away, Hapgood's work simply cannot be lumped with the lunatic fringe and he certainly cannot be held responsible for the Chariots - level offshoots that fed on his research. Although unquestionably an amateur theoretician, he did do his homework and had it thoroughly checked by professionals. The U.S. Air Force SAC cartographers, for example, worked with him for two years and fully endorsed his conclusions about Antarctica.

From Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings by Charles Hapgood



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The Antarctic ice cap melting controversy

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(available November) Antarctica harbours the bones of dinosaurs and petrified rain forests. Did continental drift bring Antarctica to the poles or was it a shift in the earth’s axis that not only caused the death of the Mega fauna but placed a massive ice sheet on the continent.

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Antarctica - once a tropical paradise

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• The age of the Antarctic ice sheet is no more than 6,000 years old
• The validity of the Vostok Antarctic ice cores is disputed

Antarctica today is covered by an ice sheet up to 5 kilometers thick. It is the coldest place on Earth. It is amazingly the driest desert on earth with snow only falling around its wind blasted boundaries.

But it was not always so cold and remote. Geologist Molly Miller of Vanderbilt University discovered in the Beardmore Glacier area of Antarctica the remains of three ancient deciduous forests complete with fossils of fallen leafs scattered around the petrified tree stumps. These trees are alive today but only grow in warm moist areas such as Queensland, Australia. Antarctica also harbors bones of extinct marsupials and dinosaurs with massive coal beds full of once flourishing flora and fauna.

When did this fabulous age exist and more importantly what caused the dramatic change? It must have been a sudden and dramatic change for there are no intermediate phases with changing vegetation patterns. And how did a five kilometer ice sheet develop inland in Antarctica where there is little snow or precipitation? These are impossible questions that modern geology struggles to answer. Did continental-drift bring Antarctica to the poles or was it a shift in the earth’s axes that not only caused the death of the tropical rain forests, but place a massive ice sheet on the continent?

And when did this occur? Classic geology would have you believe this ice sheet to of been in existence for millions of years. Two powerful facts totally contradict this. One is the existence of two ancient maps the Piri Reis and the Oronteus Finaeus maps both hoary with antiquity. Incredibly they show Antarctica Ice free, these maps are reckoned to have their source in the two thousand year old libraries of ancient Alexandria. This would mean that Antarctica may have of been navigable in the not too distant past. Perhaps in the time of the Pharaohs?

Are these maps believable? Professor Charles Hapgood submitted them to the U.S. air force cartography section for evaluation. Lt. Colonel Ohlmeyer replied that not only were they accurate but, "this indicates the coastline had been mapped before it was covered by the ice-cap. The ice-cap in this region is now about a mile thick .We have no idea how the data on this map can be reconciled with the supposed state of geographical knowledge of this era." (www.ancientdestructions.com)

We have a second line of evidence for a recent ice free Antarctica.The controversial ice core experiments? In Greenland and Antarctica are laboratories that bore through the ice to collect data on the layers of ice. In Antartica there is the Dome C and Vostok stations. In Greenland ,the second of the world’s continental ice sheets, there is for example, the GISP 2 and GRIP. Eventually they hit rock bottom where in the case of Greenland they hit plant remains. Each layer contains volcanic dust and certain isotopes such as Carbon14 and Oxygen18 that reveal data on the nature of the climate in distant eras. For instance it is claimed they clearly show the profile of the medieval warming a thousand years ago when the temperatures of the earth exceeded those of today.

But if each layer represents a year then Antarctica’s 140,000 layers are not millions of years old as conventional geology claims. But even more controversially, Charles Ginenthal in his paper on "ice core evidence" explained that summer melt and the deposition of thousands of layers during chaotic eras totally falsify the year per layer paradigm on which this theory is built. He contends that ocean core and bore hole results contradict the ice core data. All getting a bit complex?. But what it means is the ice sheet is not millions of years old and it also could have been laid down rapidly within a short number of years. This could of happened as recently as six thousand years ago. Again at the time of the Pharaohs.

The rapidity of the event is supported by the fossilization of the ancient tree forests that Molly Miller discovered. Fossilization is a process that usually only occurs in catastrophic circumstances such as comet discharge, extreme mass coronal ejections or disturbed planetary motions resulting in magnetic field reversal. Could this scenario happen again in the future? In the making is the film ‘Antarctica once a tropical paradise’ in which I will examine the evidence in detail.
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The Antarctic ice cap melting controversy

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Antarctic Fossil Forests

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Peter Jupp is the author of the series. He is an Australian archaeologist with a passion not to follow traditions in archaeology. Peter does not think archaeology involves being ‘thrilled’ by dusting off broken pots and bones. What drives him is a passion to ask questions about civilizations and huge constructions that were suddenly smashed and just "disappeared" from the face of Earth. He also questions how cosmic interference from comets and other planets affected out planet.

Peter Jupp majored in Archaeology at the University of Melbourne and also attended the School of Creative Arts at Melbourne University where he studied film making techniques and production. Jupp's inquisitive nature, and dedication to the mind’s love of logic and beauty has led him into an area of passion that seeks answers from many disciplines. Hence he has also studied Earth Sciences, Biology, Mythology and Art at a tertiary level.

In earlier years he studied Applied Chemistry at RMIT, and later lectured in Medical Imaging at the Sydney University School of Radiology. The resulting culmination of knowledge in areas such as magnetic phenomena, chemistry and biology, as well as ancient history and mythology, powerfully informs his unique slant on archeology.

This keen interest in the life sciences has given Peter 'Mungo' Jupp an unusually broad based understanding of the human journey on our planet, and lends a fascinating edge to the storyline of his films. His sense of humor, musicality and creativity enrich these documentaries.... thus they are at once entertaining and informative, alternately seducing and provoking the viewer into fresh questioning of our human and cosmic history.

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Ancient Destructions and the Archaeologist

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Peter 'Mungo' Jupp
‘Mungo’ is the author of the series. He is an Australian archaeologist with a passion not to follow traditions in archaeology. Peter does not think archaeology involves being ‘thrilled’ by dusting off broken pots and bones. What drives him is a passion to ask questions about civilisations and huge constructions that were suddenly smashed and just ‘disappeared’ from the face of Earth. He also questions how cosmic interference affected out planet.





Peter Jupp majored in Archaeology at the University of Melbourne and also attended the School of Creative Arts at Melbourne University where he studied film making techniques and production. Jupp's inquisitive nature, and dedication to the mind’s love of logic and beauty has led him into an area of passion that seeks answers from many disciplines. Hence he has also studied Earth Sciences, Biology, Mythology and Art at a tertiary level.
In earlier years he studied Applied Chemistry at RMIT, and later lectured in Medical Imaging at the Sydney University School of Radiology. The resulting culmination of knowledge in areas such as magnetic phenomena, chemistry and biology, as well as ancient history and mythology, powerfully informs his unique slant on archeology.
This keen interest in the life sciences has given Peter 'Mungo' Jupp an unusually broad based understanding of the human journey on our planet, and lends a fascinating edge to the storyline of his films. His sense of humor, musicality and creativity enrich these documentaries.... thus they are at once entertaining and informative, alternately seducing and provoking the viewer into fresh questioning of our human and cosmic history.
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Everywhere we go around the world we see shattered ruins, abandoned in deserts and lying buried under sand. We are compelled to ask ourselves WHAT HAPPENED?
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Above all we aim to get you to question our past and not let the dogma of our universities and schools go un-probed. These films are unashamedly documentaries. They are not Indiana Jones. But they do aim to explore and fascinate.
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