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Survival related companies voting for Kerry ---Ugh!!

Post#1 » Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:34 pm

Here's the full list of companies that weighed in against freedom this past election and voted for communist Kerry...:

Alpine Experience
American Alpine Institute
American Outdoor Products
Black Diamond
Cascade Designs
Columbia Sportswear
Eagle Creek Travel Gear
Earth Games
Forest Group, The
Gregory Mountain Products
Horny Toad Activewear
Le Travel Store
Leatherman Tool Group
Metolius Climbing
Mountain Gear
Mountain Hardwear
Outdoor Research
Peregrine Outfitters
Petzl America
Sullivan Agency
Werner Paddles
Western Spirit Cycling

No more Leatherman tools for me!

Top Business Leaders from the Outdoor Industry Endorse Kerry-Edwards Tuesday September 14, 2:24 pm ET The Health of the Great American Outdoors is at Stake

OREGON CITY, Ore.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 14, 2004--Senior executives from leading outdoor manufacturers, retailers and associations across the country gathered today to endorse Senator John Kerry for President and Senator John Edwards for Vice President. They announced their endorsement at a press conference with Senator John Edwards at Clackamus Community College in Oregon City, Oregon. "We have come together to endorse Senators Kerry and Edwards because they share our values and goals," said Lee Fromson, president of Seattle-based Cascade Designs, Inc., a leading manufacturer of outdoor equipment. "And we are here today because the Great American Outdoors is in serious jeopardy and if we fail at protecting the outdoors then our businesses will fail, our health will fail and we will leave future generations with air they can't breathe and water they can't drink."

Remarks by Senator John Edwards and Cascade Design's Lee Fromson carried common themes:

We must clean up the air we breathe and the water we drink or the health of all Americans will suffer We must provide more venues and opportunities for outdoor recreation for the 150 million Americans who actively enjoy outdoor recreation We must treasure our national parks for recreation and not the industries that mine them for treasure We must lower health care costs to stay in business. This is true for all businesses not just our own. "Our national parks are severely under-funded resulting in rampant understaffing, site closures, eliminated visitor education programs, neglected cultural and natural resource preservation and unsafe trails," said Peter Bragdon, vice president and general counsel of Columbia Sportswear. "Protecting our parks and open space is essential to the health of my business, the outdoor industry at large and to the many States whose economies depend upon tourism and recreation, not to mention the millions upon millions of Americans who enjoy the Great American Outdoors each year."

"Health care is the hardest decision I have to make each year as a business owner," said Paul Fish, president of Mountain Gear in Spokane, WA. "I want to provide my employees and their families with quality care but the cost of doing so weakens the very business we are trying to build together."

Executives attending today's event included: Lee Fromson, president, Cascade Designs, Inc.(Seattle, WA); Peter Bragden, vice president, general counsel, Columbia Sportswear (Portland, Oregon); Menno Van Wyk, CEO Montrail (Seattle, WA); Paul Fish, president Mountain Gear (Spokane, WA); Carn Nielsen, vice president, Mountain Gear (Spokane, WA); Dan Nordstrom, CEO Outdoor Research (Seattle, WA); Jeff Bowman, vice president, Cascade Designs, Inc. (Seattle, WA); Doug Phillips, president, Metolius Climbing (Bend, OR); Tim Leatherman, president, Leatherman Tool Group, Inc. (Portland, OR); Dunham Gooding, president, American Alpine Institute, Ltd (Bellingham, WA); Brian Bennett, national accounts manager, Patagonia (Ventura, CA)

Outdoor businesses depend on abundant and available recreation opportunities so their customers can enjoy outdoor activities. In return, outdoor businesses employ over a million Americans, contribute $18 billion to the U.S. economy and work closely together to promote an active and healthy lifestyle to the 149 million Americans who enjoy the great American outdoors.

September 14, 2004

Dear Fellow Americans:

We are business leaders in the outdoor industry and we have come together because we can no longer be silent. Outdoor businesses depend on abundant and available recreation opportunities so our customers can enjoy outdoor activities. In return, outdoor businesses employ over a million Americans, contribute $18 billion to the U.S. economy and work together to promote an active and healthy lifestyle to the 149 million Americans who love the great American outdoors.

In our opinion increasing the number of venues for active outdoor recreation, staunchly protecting the environment, bolstering recreation and conservation funding to our public land agencies and reducing health care costs go hand-in-hand. They are essential for the health and well being of the outdoor industry and its customers.

Senators John Kerry and John Edwards share our values and goals. They know that promoting active outdoor recreation promotes good health. They know that proactively protecting and supporting public lands for recreational use means future generations will enjoy them too. They know that improving the quality of the air we breathe and the water we drink is not negotiable for any industry or business in America. They know that health care costs will continue to increase unless we are united in reducing obesity in America.

John Kerry and John Edwards are committed to preserving our national parks for the benefit of current and future generations. President Bush has promoted policies that break that commitment and endanger the future sustainability of our national parks. President Bush's policies have severely under-funded our national parks resulting in rampant understaffing, site closures, elimination of visitor education programs and neglected cultural and natural resource preservation, demonstrating indifference towards unsafe trails, unclear facilities and the growing shortage of safety staff.

As importantly, the Bush administration has rolled back basic environmental protections that undermine parks including:

Rolling back Clean Air Act requirements that ensure visibility and healthy visits to our national parks; Eliminating federal protections for our public lands that will allow mining, logging and development in national forests; Slashing the Land and Water Conservation Fund, which enables the National Park Service to acquire new land and protect and enhance existing parks facilities. In contrast John Kerry and John Edwards have a plan to protect the scenic landscapes and vistas for the appreciation of future generations through rigorous enforcement of clean air and water regulations and will preserve the resources that embody our cultural heritage through committed funding for parks operations by:

Increasing the operating budget of the National Park Service by $600 million will put our parks back on the path toward recovery and restoration. We will pay for this important objective by modernizing the sale of mineral rights and using the revenue generated to increase the operating budgets of our national parks. We know that Senator Kerry is a champion on the environmental issues that are central to our industry and customers. We also believe that Senator Kerry's economic and health care policies will keep our businesses competitive and health care affordable.

Therefore, we the undersigned are proud to endorse Senator Kerry as the next President of the United States.


Lee Fromson, president, Cascade Designs (Seattle, WA)

Peter Bragden, vice president, general counsel, Columbia Sportswear (Portland, Oregon)

Menno Van Wyk, CEO, Montrail (Seattle, WA)

Paul Fish, president, Mountain Gear (Spokane, WA)

Carn Nielsen, vice president, Mountain Gear (Spokane, WA)

Dan Nordstrom, CEO, Outdoor Research (Seattle, WA)

Jeff Bowman, vice president, Cascade Designs (Seattle, WA)

Doug Phillips, president, Metolius Climbing (Bend, OR)

Tim Leatherman, president, Leatherman Tool Group, Inc. (Portland, OR)

Dunham Gooding, president, American Alpine Institute, Ltd (Bellingham, WA)

Larry Harrison, president, Earth Games (San Clemente, CA)

Jim Clark, CEO, Watermark (Arcata, CA)

Steve Barker, CEO, Eagle Creek Travel Gear (San Diego, CA)

Peter Metcalf, CEO, Black Diamond (Salt Lake City, Utah)

Ashley Korenblat, president, Western Spirit Cycling (Moab, Utah)

Mike Wallenfels, vice president, Mountain Hardware (Richmond, CA)

Roody Rasmussen, CEO, Petzl America (Clearfield, UT)

Tony Post, president, Vibram (Concord, MA)

Kelly Stone, director sales and marketing, Werner Paddles (Seattle, WA)

Joe Hyer, president, Alpine Experience (Olympia, WA)

Mike Sullivan, president, Sullivan Agency (Wimberley, TX)

Bob Olsen, president, Peregrine Outfitters (Williston, VT)

Michael Crooke, CEO, Patagonia (Ventura, CA)

Brian Bennett, director national accounts, Patagonia (Ventura, CA)

Adam Forest, managing partner, The Forest Group (Lotus, CA)

Gordon Seabury, president, Horny Toad Activewear (Santa Barbara, CA)

Paul Gagner, vice president, Gregory Mountain Products (Temecula, CA)

Tom Campion, founder and chairman, Zumiez Inc. (Everett, WA)

Malcolm Daly, president, Trango (Boulder, CO)

Rodney Smith, president, American Outdoor Products (Boulder, CO)

Joan Keller, president, Le Travel Store (San Diego, CA)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contact: For Cascade Designs, Inc. Martha Keeley, 978-468-8961

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source: Cascade Designs, Inc.

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TIM LEATHERMANs whiney reply

Post#2 » Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:42 pm

Dear name removed,

I have received lots of e-mails because of my endorsement of the
Kerry/Edwards ticket. Some of you merely made an inquiry as to whether
it was true. Some of you supported my position. Some of you opposed,
but were polite, and offered well reasoned arguments as why I should not
have done what I did - interesting food for thought.

Far more of you stated very, very emphatically that you were no longer
going to buy LEATHERMAN products and were going to tell family, friends,
co-workers, and everyone else with whom you come in contact to no longer
do so either. Some used unbelievably crude and vulgar language. Some
made accusations, that if proven, would get me executed. At least one
of you stated you hope I'll rot in the place the opposite of heaven.
Most of you, merely because I publicly stated how I was going to vote,
jumped to a lot of unjustified and untrue conclusions about my positions
on the issues.

I did endorse Kerry/Edwards. However, the endorsement was personal. No
corporate money (or personal either, for that matter), was contributed
to any candidate, any party, PAC, or any political entity what-so-ever.
In the endorsement I did include my job title and the company I work
for, and since my name and the company name are the same, many of you
said the endorsement was by the company. Some of you say claiming after
the fact that the endorsement was personal isn't good enough to escape
your wrath. If you were one of them, I don't think anything I can say
will change your mind. If you were not one of them, you'll have to
decide for yourself.

For many of you, gun control was your one and only issue. Some of you
saw Kerry (and still see - I am still getting e-mails written as if the
election had not yet occurred) quite literally as an enemy (or worse)
for one thing and only one thing - because of how you feel he feels
about gun control. One person went so far as to tell me that I am his
enemy because being a friend of his enemy makes me his enemy.
Amazingly, all those people decided to boycott my company and called me
all those names without a single one asking me my position on gun
control. My position is, assuming you are a law abiding citizen and own
weapons that are legal to own, that no one should be able to take your
guns away from you. I own a rifle and shotgun myself.

Some of you have jumped to the conclusion that I don't want hunters and
fishermen (and women) to have access to public lands for hunting and
fishing. That is incorrect. I too am a hunter and fisherman.

Some of you have jumped to the conclusion that I am anti-military. I am
not. I think some wars need to be fought. Some of you think I am anti
Vietnam era veterans. I am not. I have never been in the military, but
I lived in Vietnam for over two years (Aug. '72 - April '75). I am
probably one of the few Americans of my generation to pay his own way to
get there.

Just because I said I was going to vote for Kerry didn't mean that I
supported every position Kerry took. And I acknowledge, there were
times when it was tough to figure out what his position was. I did (and
do) believe that some of the things George W. Bush did during his first
term in office were not good for the country. Overall, I felt we needed
a change of leadership, but a majority of the country thought otherwise.

Almost all of you said I have a right to my opinion, but having stated
my opinion, you have a right to try to punish me economically by not
buying LEATHERMAN tools. I agree. You do. With your personal money.
(Not government money. See below.) Some of you were concerned that by
buying LEATHERMAN tools company funds would go to support political
candidates in which you did not believe. I have already assured you
that neither company funds nor personal funds went to any candidate,
party, PAC, or other political entity. It also seems to me you are
being highly selective in only going after those of us who were willing
to stand up and state our opinion and not require someone from every
company from which you buy anything to state a politically correct
opinion or risk a boycott. Also, it seems unfair to me to penalize all
the employees of a company when one of the employees states an opinion
you oppose. Over 300 people work at Leatherman Tool Group, Inc. Many
employees do not share my opinions. U.S. manufacturing jobs are already
disappearing fast enough without taking a hit from those of you who
undoubtedly consider yourselves to be patriotic Americans.

Most of you are worried about encroachments on your rights. I'm worried
too. Some of you say you work for government agencies, and have control
over purchases for your agency, and that you will no longer buy
LEATHERMAN tools because of how I voted. I would think that is illegal.
How would you feel if it comes to the point that individual government
employees make decisions on government purchases or providing government
services based on the public positions you are taking? How would you
feel if a fire fighter refused to come to your home to put out a fire
because he or she didn't like something you said in public?

It seems to me more reasonable to consider whether to buy a product on
the merits of the product itself, not on how one of the employees of the
company said he was going to vote.

I have to admit I was surprised by the outpouring of response. Some of
you pointed out it's Business 101 to not offend your customers. Now
that I am looking back, I agree with you. I guess my problem is that I
never took Business 101. I graduated in Engineering. And I never
realized that merely publicly stating how I was going to vote would
bring such virulent responses. I would have thought that if you didn't
agree with how I was going to vote, but knowing I had already decided,
you would have put your efforts into convincing the undecided to vote
your way, rather than try to convince me to change my mind, but I guess
you didn't see it that way.

I hope I have given enough information so that those of you who still
have open minds can decide how you feel about LEATHERMAN. If not, I'd
be happy to answer any questions you might have.

Tim Leatherman
Leatherman Tool Group, Inc.

P.S. If you are in contact with anyone who e-mailed me, but said I
never responded, ask them to check their spam filters. Some of you have
set your spam filters so high that my response won't go through.

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