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POW 911 TREATISE for new disc PEACE OR WAR

Post#1 » Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:20 pm

POW INSERT TREATISE

Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the
land, not a famine of bread, nor thirst for water, but for hearing the words of the Lord:

How true does the TRUTH ring out from thousands of years ago. It is VERY relevant to
today’s time and space. This generation IS that time that our Father sent this warning
to. It is very prophetic. Hearing the Words of the Lord is hearing the truth and nothing
but the truth. The WORD is the absolute Truth in life, regardless of whether an
individual accepts it or not.

Today, one can’t hear enough of the truth. Of course, the truth has become the object of
scorn from the masses. Most DO NOT WANT TO HEAR IT. The Truth cuts both ways. Those who love it have to seek it out. It is there, but you have to have a love for it, a want to find it, even when many obstacles are placed in your way. Deceit and deception are the
status quo of the day. Our Media is at the top of being the biggest perpetrators of the
LIE. The schools, churches, temples, government and our monetary system are all part and parcel of perpetuating this lie.

If an individual gets to the point that he wants to share the truth and wisdom, there are
many gate keepers to beat him/her down into submission. The quickest way is through name calling and character impugning when any sacred goat topic at hand is not allowed debate. The flat earthers of today can call anyone a heretic (hater, anti-blah blah, supremacist etc...) without fear that they and their lies will be held accountable in a justful court.

Poker Face has always strived to learn the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the
truth, regardless of whatever cult of personalities must fall, or whose lies need to be
destroyed. Disturbingly, 100s of thousands of people around the world are currently
imprisoned for their thought and speech crimes. Why? Because a certain kosher nostra
mafia has created laws in many western countries that doesn’t allow for ANY debate on the holocaust issue. No matter where you or anyone else stands with that fiction called fact, NO ONE should be jailed because of a difference of opinion. Once you have created laws that allow for one absurdity to stand, then everyone should be afraid of what cannot be spoken of next, such as government corruption.

Because very few have the strength to withstand the all out assault by anti-American
groups like the ADL, the SPLC, the SWC, and their 100s of other paid agit-prop, substance eating-out, pond scum groups, Poker Face takes it upon themselves to share the truth, as factually as we know it, with those whose eyes, ears and hearts are still open and
hungry. We proudly proclaim it without fear of retribution from Christ’s enemies, the
Synagog of Satan. Rev 2:9, Rev 3:9

In America, today, there is still some semblance of freedom of speech. But, not for long.
Until then, we will push the envelope. For there truly is starvation in the land at this
time. We ask that you feed yourself. Don’t believe anything we ever tell you.
Investigate it. Get into the facts. The truth will make more sense to you than any of the
fiction our government and media have sold us.

The 9-11 information contained on the other side of this insert
Pdf of POW CD Insert - http://www.pokerface.com/POW/POW_Insert_Front.pdf

can be found documented
in books, videos, the internet, etc., supported by pilots, engineers, professors, retired
military, retired government insiders etc. How far down the rabbit hole of truth you
want to go is up to you.

911 was created/ fabricated/perpetrated upon us, NOT to hunt down bogeymen like Bin Laden or Al-CIA-duh. No, my fellow Americans, this neo-conned Major motion picture event that was played out on the mind controlled media teebees created Unconstitutional laws like the Patriot Acts 1&2, Militarization Act of 2007 and the Jane Harmon 2008 misnamed Domestic Terrorist Bill. They are all about keeping you & me in line. And if you get out of line, then off to the recently built Halliburton Re-education camps you will go.

Warning: What happened to the Russians in the early 1900s by the Bolsheviks/Mensheviks is about to happen here in America. All the right Ashekenazi Khazar supremacist Bolshevik Jews are in all the right police state governmental positions in the US today. 20 million dead Ukrainians will pale in comparison if they keep us distracted from themselves and beguiled with parties or races or any other segregation of society.

White America, do you feel like you are constantly being discriminated against. If you
bring up anything, the race pimps and baiters start blathering their hateful names at
you, trying to subjugate you into submission. Until enough of the white middle class says
enough to this bullshit, America will continue to slide into tyranny. Where are all the
white males and their balls. Have you drank too much of the fluoridated water that you
are successfully numbed and dumbed down and drugged up?

And to the rest of you so called Americans without a hyphen, you need to stand up and
shut up the race baiters that are dividing and conquering America on her 0-20% hardcore
differences. Come together on the 80% that is fucking us all; the same governmental
system that has been taken over by the International Jewish Banking elite. Rise up, rise
up my fellow commoners. Gird your balls and do the right American thing. REVOLT!!! Revolt to save the Constitution, not destroy it like the globalist leaders of both parties have been doing for decades. It’s time to hold our (s)elected leaders accountable for their
crimes against the Constitution.

Why are we not indicting all of these assholes under the RICO laws that could so easily
be applied to their deceit, treachery, and treason. The only difference between the
Democommies and the Republinazis is this, Republicants kill more people internationally
thru imperialistic wars, and democrappers kill more people domestically; like the
assaults and murders at Waco, Ruby Ridge & dozens of other places throughout America. The only other difference is that the Democratic Party fronts as the drug dealers that they
are for the Chinese produced heroin, not to be outdone, the Republicans front for the
heroin coming out of Afghanistan.

Besides that, both parties are for infringing on your God given Rights and selling out
America to the Globalistas and their Bankster Owner Cartels.

Investigate 911. IT IS EVERYTHING. Every Rights infringement that has come into law has been abused. In the name of Scarorism, we must give up these essential liberties…
Blah blah blah BullShit. The world’s elite have been blathering this forever Their greed
makes them try to control the world.

3 of the best movies that are the most informative and cover different ground are the
following; www.911mysteries.com , www.zero911movie.com , & www.911missingLinks.com which is by far the best of the 3 Also go to sites like www.killtown.911review.org/ and www.wingtv.net for
more in depth information mainstream refuses to touch. Buy America First publications
like www.americanfreepress.net , www.barnesreview.org , We have a lot of this information posted on our forum board - www.pokerface.org/fx for those that want to really go deep into the truth. It is there for your use. We have paid a heavy price for it being there

Read the following 3 books to gain an understanding as to who is pulling the strings.
Michael Collins Piper’s new book THE NEW BABYLON , Andrew Carrington Hitchcock’s SYNAGOG OF SATAN & Cushman Cunningham's SECRET
EMPIRE These three books deal with the international gangster bankers and their crimes.

Do yourselves a favor, and check them out, buy them before they are gone. The treason is
in the details never talked about. Visit our FORUM board, we will have a list of links to
great sites detailing as much of the truth as you could possibly want to know on this
crime and others. 911 myths have to be destroyed, or our Republic will be no more. This
scarorist event will go down as the Machiavellian means as to how the
Gangster Banksters pulled off their take over of our nation
and us as slaves.

This treatise will continue with the solutions America can immediately implement to gain
its freedoms again. They will be posted on our FORUM BOARD at the top section called GENERAL and will be found at the very top called POW 911 TREATISE. Peace be with to you and yours. PF 909

to be continued... as we roll out the new CD October 2009












Sources to study and learn from (again Dont believe us.. do the math and study up on this most important topic affecting all of mankind, not just Americans only...

Russian Truth Tellers:
Anatoli Golitsyn – New Lies for Old, The Perestroika Deception
Alexander Solzhenitsyn - Traditional prejudices: the anti-Semitism of Alexander Solzhenitsyn
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... i_n6006323
Wiki bio - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Solzhenitsyn
Books - Gulag Archipelago
Then came the news that Solzhenitsyn was writing a major history of the Jews in Russia. The first volume of Dvesti let vmeste (Two Hundred Years Together), covering the period from 1795 to 1916, appeared in 2001; the second volume followed in 2003

Jewish writers/authors/friends
Barry Chamish - www.thebarrychamishwebsite.com/
Sherman Skolnick - www.skolnicksreport.com/
Henry Makow – http://www.savethemales.ca
Israel Shamir - www.israelshamir.net/
Brother Nathaniel - http://www.brothernathanael.com/
Neturei Karta http://www.nkusa.org Rabbi Weiss

Jewish groups vs Zionism:

http://www.rense.com/general52/jewsvs.htm
www.jewsagainstzionism.com
www.jewsnotzionists.org/

American Writers

Michael Collins Piper – any of his many books Final Judgement, New Babylon
Donn De Gran Pre – Barbarians Inside the Gates, Venoms Viper, Rattlers Revenge
Victor Thorn – any of his many books; "9/11 Evil" implicates Zionist Israel
Kaminski Review: http://pokerface.org/fx/viewtopic.php?p=9123#9123
Eustace Mullins – any of his many books
G. Edward Griffin – Creature From Jekyl Island
Michaael Hoffman – JUDAISM DISCOVERED and many others
http://pokerface.org/fx/viewtopic.php?p=9092#9092 - review of book
The Synagog of Satan – Andrew Carrington Hitchcock see:
http://pokerface.org/fx/viewtopic.php?p=9653#9653
Cushman Cunningham - The Secret Empire Vols I & II
Mark Glenn – No Beauty in the Beast -Israel with out its mascara

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Post#2 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:16 pm

Hear! Hear! Paul, well said. I have a hard time with those who believe the conspiracy theory where 19 arab men with box cutters.....blah, blah. At the range we shoot at, I have noticed that those most adamant about the "official" theory, are also the most rah-rah war mongers. And they're Viet Nam vets! They should be the first to call bullshit to government chicanery.

BTW, when is the new CD gonna be out?

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CD just came out yesterday tuesday

Post#3 » Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:54 pm

we hope to be taking orders next week, after our website gets updated to handle the order for PEAECE OR WAR.
peace
paul

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Treason, Betrayal and Deceit: 9/11 and Beyond

Post#4 » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:43 pm

Yes there are Patriotic American JEWs, and here is one...
Alan Sabrosky will probably be called by the real supremacist hating jews, as a "SELF LOATHING JEW". You and I are just anti-Semites for pointing out the Truth...
pk

Treason, Betrayal and Deceit: 9/11 and Beyond

Let the record show that Alan Sabrosky has done his duty to his country. Now a duty falls upon each of us. -- Dick Eastman


http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e23460.htm


The author has had more than five years of service at the U.S. Army War College as Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute, and holder of the General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research. Dr. Sabrosky's teaching and research appointments have included the United States Military Academy, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Middlebury College and Catholic University; while in government service, he held concurrent adjunct professorships at Georgetown University and the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). He implicates the members of the Israel policy Project for a New American Century as the planners of the September 11 false-flag attacks.


Treason, Betrayal and Deceit: 9/11 and Beyond
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By Alan Sabrosky.

September 10, 2009 "Information Clearing House' -- The attacks on September 11, 2001 have been a defining moment for America. The political and psychological impact on Americans of a concerted and visible attack in America was enormous -- indeed, it is an interesting "coincidence" that the attacks occurred on the one day of the year whose mention reinforces a public sense here of danger and emergency: 9-1-1.

A significant development in the 1990s was the formation of the neo-conservative think tank known as PNAC (Project for a New American Century), whose members prepared position papers for the Israeli government and for a future US Administration sharing their views. That happened in 2000 with the election of George W. Bush, and a contemporary writer summarized the tip of the neo-conservative iceberg in his first Administration this way:

The "outsiders" from PNAC were now powerful "insiders," placed in important positions from which they could exert maximum pressure on US policy�PNAC had a lock on military policy-creation in the Bush Administration.

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Especially significant in terms of subsequent events was the acknowledgement in one of PNAC's own documents that their program for America (and Israel) would not readily be accepted by the American people. What this meant, PNAC opined in 2000, was that "the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event -- like a new Pearl Harbor."

9/11 Reconsidered

On September 11, 2001, the PNAC people in and out of government -- and by extension AIPAC and Israel -- "coincidentally" got the event they needed, barely eight months after coming into office. Most people are familiar with the basic details of that day -- two commercial aircraft crashing into the two tallest buildings in New York City's World Trade Center (WTC), a third striking the Pentagon, and a fourth ending up in a Pennsylvania field. Few people will forget the images of the burning buildings, their collapse, the casualties, and the sense of shock and tragedy that ensued.

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The official 9/11 Commission's work and report were at best an incomplete exercise. Many people dismiss the findings of the Commission, and that includes its co-chairs. Many others who utterly distrust the 9/11 Commission report, dismiss the US Government�s explanation of it, and point to both an official cover-up and an �inside job,� include veteran fighter pilots, EMTs (Emergency Medical Technicians), air defense experts, experienced commercial pilots, demolition experts, architects and civil engineers � none of them professions that inherently attract and retain the gullible and credulous.

Several things are very clear to me from a careful assessment of both official and critical evaluations of the 9/11 attacks. First, the striking aircraft alone simply could not have brought down either of the two buildings in the manner in which they fell, much less a third building which was not hit by a plane (I expect the one intended to do that as a "cover" had ended up in that Pennsylvania field), given the available physical evidence and a wealth of expert testimony. This means the attackers had assistance on the ground, and it had to have been active before the attacks occurred: preparing buildings for controlled demolition is not something done haphazardly in the midst of chaos.



Notice who was US Trade Rep when the World Trade Center was hit. Notice the black Rockefeller step-and-fetch yes-man it in the highest cabinet position with only conventional and obsolete military experience. Notice the white token in Commerce. There would be no controversy within this administration over the investigation, conclusions or measures to be taken following 9-11. Positions taken seemed to be according to script. -- DE


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Second, only two intelligence agencies had the expertise, assets, access and political protection to execute 9/11 in the air and on the ground: our CIA and Israel's Mossad. Only one had the incentive, using the �who benefits� principle: Mossad. And that incentive dovetailed perfectly with the neo-con�s agenda and explicitly expressed need for a catalytic event to mobilize the American public for their wars, using American military power to destroy Israel�s enemies. Only the unexpected strength of the Iraqi resistance kept Syria and Iran from being attacked in the second Bush Administration. Thus, the evidential trail for 9/11 and the wars in Afghanistan & Iraq run from PNAC, AIPAC and their cohorts; through the mostly Jewish neo-cons in the Bush Administration; and back to the Israeli government. None of the denials and political machinations can alter that essential reality. Terms such as treason, betrayal and deceit do not overstate the case against them.

MSM
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General Electric $100.5 billion 1998 revenues
Chairman and CEO: Jeffrey R. Immelt
NBC etc.

Time Warner $26.8 billion 1998 revenues
chairman: Gerald Levin CEO: Richard D. Parsons
Turner etc.

The Walt Disney Co. $23 billion 1998 revenues
chairman: Richard Cook CEO: Bob Iger
ABC etc.

Viacom $18.9 billion 1998 revenues
Chairman and CEO: Sumner Redstone
CBS, UPN etc.

News Corporation $13 billion 1998 revenues
Chairman and CEO: Ruppert Murdoch
Fox etc.

Universal (Seagram)

AT&T (TCI)

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Finally, we need to take a hard look at why the mainstream media (MSM) have paid more attention to Sarah Palin�s wardrobe than they have to dissecting blatant falsehoods, discrepancies and inconsistencies in the US Government�s treatment of 9/11 and its aftermath. And the reason is that on this issue, all are on the same side, and the official line is the one they all prefer � �all� meaning the PNAC alumni who took over the Bush Administration�s national security apparatus and their counterparts in the Obama administration, AIPAC and the rest of the numerous Jewish PACs, the MSM owners and Israel. The depiction of the media management in America in 2002 is especially informative, and has not changed significantly since then:

CEOs and Directors of companies change as often as Boards of Directors vote. But if we could �freeze frame� the CEOs of the largest US Media companies in mid 2002, we would find that ten Jewish American men ran the vast majority of US television networks and other media companies including movies, radio, and publishing at that time. Not much has changed today.



Who made movies during WWII?

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Looking Ahead

Today we are getting the same line on Iran, from the same type of people -- Obama himself tries to be more independent, but most of the key staff and national security people in his Administration do not differ greatly on Israel and the Middle East from those of his predecessor. And the Congress has shown itself to be even more of AIPAC's lap-dog than the preceding Congress, an exercise in self-serving cowardice that admittedly has taken some doing.

But AIPAC and company are riding a tiger in America, and if they ever slip, the resulting convulsion will be catastrophic for them and for Israel. The open unfolding of the 9/11 tragedy and its ensuing wars that is now occurring can be that slip. The human cost to America to date is some 60,000 people, military and civilian, killed or wounded on 9/11 and in Iraq and Afghanistan together, with more to come once we go to war with Iran (or get dragged into it following an Israeli attack on Iran). Much of the deliberately misdirected rage that followed 9/11 has given way to endurance and grief.

But grief is a close cousin to rage, and an enraged America is not pretty, as anyone familiar with our history can appreciate. Americans are often deceptive without meaning to be. To much of the world, they often come across as naive, bumbling innocents in the world of global politics. And on a day-to-day basis, there is much truth to that.

But an enraged America is a very different character. You have only to look at what happened in WWII to German and Japanese cities, towns and villages, where America slaughtered literally millions of German and Japanese civilians -- most of them women and children -- knew it was doing it, and cared nothing at all. The goal was to crush, and restraint was not a word used much at all.

If these Americans and those like them ever fully understand just how much of their suffering -- and the suffering we have inflicted on others -- is properly laid on the doorsteps of Israel and its advocates in America, they will sweep aside those in politics, the press and the pulpits alike whose lies and disloyalty brought this about and concealed it from them. They may well leave Israel looking like Carthage after the Romans finished with it. It will be Israel�s own great fault.

Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D., University of Michigan) is a writer and consultant specializing in national and international security affairs. In December 1988, he received the Superior Civilian Service Award after more than five years of service at the U.S. Army War College as Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute, and holder of the General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research. He is listed in WHO'S WHO IN THE EAST (23rd ed.). A Marine Corps Vietnam veteran and a 1986 graduate of the U.S. Army War College, Dr. Sabrosky's teaching and research appointments have included the United States Military Academy, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Middlebury College and Catholic University; while in government service, he held concurrent adjunct professorships at Georgetown University and the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). Dr. Sabrosky has lectured widely on defense and foreign affairs in the United States and abroad.

His published work includes thirteen books or monographs and over one hundred forty articles, chapters and book reviews. Among his most recent books are Alliances in U.S. Foreign Policy, The Recourse to War: An Appraisal of the "Weinberger Doctrine", and Prisoners of War? Nation-States in the Modern Era; he is completing a book-length study on the U.S. use of military force as an instrument of foreign policy, called Presidential War: The Politics of Military Intervention. He currently owns a computer business and resides in Jackson, Mississippi.



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Well at least you don't have to fear terrorism from Moslems anymore.

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Hang 'Em High!

Post#5 » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:46 pm

Instead of spelling disaster, the financial collapse offers a unique opportunity to fix all of America’s ills. Drop the ashekenazi Khazar banking establishment like smelly pig that it is.

President Andrew Jackson said it best:
"“Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time, and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the eternal God, I will rout you out.”

ANDREW JACKSON, SPEAKING TO INTERNATIONAL BANKERS IN 1832.

http://neoconzionistthreat.com/

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Hang 'Em High!

http://www.israelshamir.net/English/Hang.htm
By Israel Shamir



Seven years after 9/11, we witness another, greater and even more enjoyable collapse, that of the American financial pyramid. It took some twenty years in building; its collapse took only a few weeks. Let us cut the hypocritical crap: this was a wonderful show, no ifs, ands or buts. The US stock markets boomed when they bombed Baghdad and Belgrade, they prospered when they robbed Moscow and squeezed sweat from Beijing. When they had it good, they had plenty of money for invading Iraq, threatening Iran and strangling Palestine. In short, when it was good for them, it was bad for us. Let them have a taste of their own medicine!



“They” are not the Americans, and “we” are not the rest of the planet. “They” are a small sliver of the American population, the get-rich-quick crowd from the East Side of Manhattan and similar places. The last twenty years witnessed a great shift of money upwards, to a smaller and smaller pack of greedy beasts. While the majority of Americans lost the ability to send their children to universities, these fat cats bought themselves villas in Florida and houses in Tel Aviv. Worse, they spent their billions buying up the media in order to subvert American democracy and send American soldiers to fight wars in far-away places. A big part of the stolen money was siphoned off to Israel, where apartment prices went through the roof and are still rising.



They had it good; they were proud that the financial charts of the US and of the world were drawn up in a small room by Henry Paulson of the Treasury, Ben Bernanke and Alan Greenspan of the Federal Reserve, by Maurice Greenberg of A.I.G. They built their world surrounded by Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sachs, Marc Rich, Michael Milken, Andrew Fastow, George Soros, et al. Their exciting new world of Lexus and Nexus was glorified by Tom Friedman of the New York Times. They gave the Nobel Prize in Economics to Myron Scholes and Robert C. Merton, proud board directors of the now infamous Long Term Capital Management hedge fund that was bailed out by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York to the tune of $3.6 billion. President Bush rewarded them for their unaccountability by releasing them from the burden of taxation. Let them pay now for all the fun they had.



They took your real dollars and turned it into funny money -- “unredeemable, non-interest-bearing promissory notes of the Fed, that are not backed by anything other than the confidence of the credulous”, in the words of one Internet wit. The ruination of the American working class and even its middle class is unavoidable The fears about the Large Hadron Collider creating a big black hole in place of Earth were based on this sinking feeling that the incredible riches of the US are disappearing into their own black hole.



This is not the first confidence trick in US history: Jay Gould and Joseph Seligman caused the 'Black Friday' stock market crash in the late 19th century, while Jacob Schiff caused the notorious ‘Black Thursday’ panic that led to a nationwide economic depression[1]. Seligman was also the mover behind the Panama affair, a stock market swindle that became proverbial in France. The swindle was set up by two Jews of German origin, Jacques Reinach and Cornelius Herz who bribed parliamentarians. While Reinach was working on the right wing, the ‘Republicans’ of his day, Herz was working on the ‘Democrats’. Wikipedia quotes Hannah Arendt, who wrote that the middlemen between the business sector and the state were almost exclusively Jews. This warm embrace between the state and the business sector was a recipe for disaster.



Obviously things have changed since then, and now the Mammonites are of various persuasions, even of Christian Science, like Hank Paulson, whose net worth is estimated at $700 million and whose career at Goldman Sachs (Chairman 1998-2006) made him the obvious choice for the position of secretary of the treasury. Only their devotion to the god of Greed remained constant. In the world of ideal capitalism (“market economy”) they so glorified, they would have paid a price. In Glen David Gold’s vastly entertaining novel Carter Beats the Devil, their spiritual ancestor was tarred and feathered by strong-willed Connecticut folk circa 1670, for he had bought a whole boatload of imported products with the criminal intent of getting rich quick by cornering the market and ripping off his fellow men. Nowadays such a criminal would get a medal from the neo-liberal Milton Friedman Fund, a citation from JINSA and be taught as a positive example by the Harvard Business School.



Now they intend to use their control over the government in order to shift their losses onto ordinary Americans. Whether this act is called ‘nationalisation’ or ‘privatisation’ or ‘bailout’, the bottom line is that many Americans will find themselves poor, and all Americans will have a huge tax burden to bear. But the perpetrators of the pyramid will get off scot-free; they will retire to their castles and to their sure and protected investments as they have always done before.



The Americans were played for suckers; they were cleaned out as easily as were the unsophisticated Albanians a few years ago. Even worse: the Albanians took out their guns and pursued the robbers; the Americans take it all lying down. But the device was the same.



The Americans are entitled to know who robbed them and their children: these are the men who became so ostentatiously rich during last two decades. They should pay the price of their crime. And if the government, the President, the Congress and Senate, the Democrats and the Republicans are reluctant to enforce it, the ordinary Americans may do as their Connecticut Yankee ancestors did: apply tar and feathers liberally. If this does not help, hang the bastards on the lamp posts.



This is exactly the time to remember why America’s Founding Fathers enshrined the people’s right to own and bear arms in the Second Amendment to the Constitution. Thank God the ADL did not cancel it yet. These arms are not for robbers: they are given to enforce justice when all other means fail. Aux armes, to arms, as the French said when giving this treatment to their tricksters. America has a great tradition of instant direct justice enforcement, this Hang’em High call of the Westerns. Heed it now!



Let US soldiers come back from unneeded wars and remote bases all over the world: their real enemy is in their own country. In the ringing, still relevant words of Lenin, let us turn the imperial war into a civil one, against the greedy bastards. Instead of charging taxpayers, turn the US into a billionaire-free zone! The billionaires, these greediest rats, gained most from the Great Pyramid; pauperise them. Nullify their bank accounts. The disappearance of trillions of dollars from their electronic bank accounts will drive the value of the greenback up; your salary will become real money again!



If we assume that more than half of all billionaires are proud members of the Israel Lobby, it will also solve the Middle Eastern problem. To be on the safe side, confiscate all the assets of the Pyramid-builders: of Paulson and Bernanke, of Merrill Lynch and Goldman Sachs executives, and of President Bush who allowed it all to happen. Peace will come to Palestine, Afghanistan and Iraq; Americans will again become proud of their country. Such mass confiscation will restore democracy in the US: the next candidates for the Presidency will not go hat in hand to AIPAC to declare their fealty. The defeat of Greed will turn people back to God; the eliminated ballast will allow for national medical care, social security and free education for all. Instead of being a disaster, the financial collapse offers a unique opportunity to fix all America’s ills. Do not miss it!



Speaking for the wide world outside America, I’ll tell you this: do not throw good money after bad. Reject the seductive purring from Washington. Consider your funds in the US already lost. If you can still get something, good; but do not waste money and efforts to regain what is gone. There is a most valuable asset you may get for the lost ones; that is your freedom and independence. An undermined dollar means your economy will be safe. The Pyramid collapse will set you free!



[1] Benjamin Ginsberg, The Fatal Embrace: Jews and the State, University of Chicago Pres, Chicago 1993, p 73

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Jews vs Zionism

Post#6 » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:52 pm

Jews vs Zionism
From Anonymous
5-10-4




Jews are beginning to organize against Foxman and his Zionist ilk.... Howard L. Hurwitz, Chairman of the Family Defense Council, wrote on January 15, 1998, in an "Open Letter to Abraham Foxman," that there is an old Yiddish axiom: "Our own Jews will destroy us." Hurwitz goes on: "You, Abraham Foxman, are that Jew. In the decade that you have directed a once prestigious and respected organization, you have defiled it."

Stifling Important Debate

By Ted Lang
ThePeoplesVoice.org
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"Torah-true Jews wish to live in peace and harmony with their neighbors in every country among the community of nations, including in historic Palestine. They deplore acts and policies of violence..."

No area on Earth is more volatile as is the socially and politically unstable Middle East. The on-going conflict between Arab and Jew threatens to engulf the entire world in nuclear conflict. The recent terrorist activities, even in the repressive regime of Uzbekistan, and in Pakistan also, both currently allies of the United States, as well as the increasing friction between Mainland China and Taiwan, exemplify the potential hotspots all over the world. And never mind the continuing terrorist plots uncovered here in the US as well as the UK.

Are these the peace dividends we are now reaping from the "collapse" of communism? Are these the fruits of the end of the Cold War? President George W. Bush has lost a golden opportunity in succumbing to his obsession to serve as a glorious war president leading our great nation in the war against the terrifying Iraqi regime. And of course, given our unbreakable and dedicated devotion to, and support of, Israel, neither our alliance with the Jewish state, nor its motives or ours, should ever be questioned.

In view of our blown opportunity to lead the world in peace instead of now serving as its greatest potential threat in terms of initiating nuclear world war, our insane course of action regarding our foreign policy relative to the Middle East needs to be reviewed and meticulously scrutinized. Our mistakes in Afghanistan and Iraq have alienated the world, and that is not good in such an unstable international environment. The terrorist attacks upon our land on September 11, 2001, were inflicted upon US for a specific reason, if we are mature enough to face that reason honestly. The need for this is long overdue.

It is sobering as well as frustrating to know that our government of supposedly "We the People" is both socially conditioned and politically postured to summarily ignore US. Washington is hopelessly out of touch with the American people. In effect, Americans have absolutely no representation. The most current and painful evidence of this is the current debacle exhibited by the Kean 9-11 commission. The commission doesn't even address the obvious reason for 9-11 known by the entire world and even some Americans, and can be summed up in one word: Israel.

Politicians are the ones elected, not regular, ordinary workingmen and women that represent the great majority of law-abiding, tax-paying citizens. Wealthy upper crust members of America's nobility are the only ones who have the wealth as well as the wealthy social connections that can afford to raise the truckloads of cash to feed the corporate television, radio, magazine and newspaper media to bombard the clueless masses with worthless political pap that never even remotely considers the real issues confronting our nation. And among those issues, is the increasingly important need to re-evaluate our relationship with Israel.

It should be clear, that insofar as American politics and Washington are concerned, it's not the squeaky wheel that gets greased, but the most costly and lavishly adorned one. And when it comes to Israel, the Israeli lobby in Washington is second in power and also vastly wealthy. And as any American should know, those with the cash, the power, and the most effective lobby, are the ones that get taken care of. And although American-Israeli friendship dates back to Israel's inception in 1948, ".widespread congressional support is rooted in more than just a long-term relationship," offers an article posted on FOXNews.com's website dated May 28, 2002. "It is traced to the power of the collective Jewish or pro-Israeli lobby, a well-organized, well-funded, extremely active, and extraordinarily connected group, according to political analysts," offers Kelly Beauchar Vlahos in her piece entitled, "Pro-Israeli Lobby a Force to Be Reckoned With." Vlahos goes on, "'They are very savvy and sophisticated,' said Richard Semiatin, a political science professor at American University. 'They are extremely knowledgeable and some of the best lobbyists in the country when they get into congressional offices.'" Vlahos also quoted former Clinton political advisor Dick Morris, who said: "It's a little like the special forces teams who go in to fight in Afghanistan. They're on the ground, calling in bombers. The planes overhead are the pro-Israeli supporters across the country, who donate money to campaigns and send letters to Washington. It's a very effective model and basically unequaled in the Congress." The "Jewish" lobby is American Israel Public Affairs Committee, or AIPAC. The article continues, "'The key to AIPAC's success is support for the only Western democracy in the Middle East,' said Josh Block, spokesman for [AIPAC] which boasts over 65,000 Jewish and non-Jewish members. 'The members support and believe that Israel is our ally on the frontline against terrorism in the Middle East. When you are lobbying on an issue that is so clearly the right thing to do, your effectiveness is high.' Granted, other groups, including the National Rifle Association, the Cuban American National Foundation and the American Trial Lawyers Association, all command large audiences and ready support in the aggressive environment of Washington." Yet, with an AIPAC membership of only 65,000, representing and lobbying for a nation with a population of five million, the NRA's membership almost equals the population of Israel. Israel's population represents only 63 percent of the population of one of America's smallest states, New Jersey, or that same percent of the population of the City of New York. AIPAC is a perfect example of what's wrong with America, and more specifically, Washington. How can Washington's second most powerful lobby, a lobby representing 65,000 proxies for five million Israelis on the other side of the Earth, be an example of republican representative government in a nation of 300 million when the latter literally have no voice? The worsening Israeli/Palestinian conflict is exacerbating and broadening worldwide contempt for Israel and its most powerful international protector. And regrettably, this is heightening the level of across-the-world hatred for all of the Jewish religion. This is indeed unfortunate, because although the term "anti-Semitism" is inappropriately used to both identify an ethnic instead of a language grouping, as well as all Jews, the instigators and provokers of "Jewish" nationalism are more correctly described as "Zionists" and not Jews.

In response to the growing hatred towards all Jews which is continually aggravated by Zionist outrages recognized as such by the world's population, many "non-organized" Jewish groups are organizing out of necessity to differentiate and distance themselves from the Zionist nationalists provoking hatred towards all Judaism. Once such organization calls itself Jews Against Zionism. On their website, in an introductory educational piece entitled, "Zionism and Anti-Semitism," the organization offers an explanation to enable understanding as well as discussion and debate: We implore and beseech our Jewish brethren to realize that the Zionists are not the saviors of the Jewish People and guarantors of their safety, but rather the instigators and original cause of Jewish suffering in the Holy Land and worldwide. The idea that Zionism and the State of "Israel" is the protector of Jews is probably the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the Jewish People. Indeed, where else since 1945 have Jews been in such physical danger as in the Zionist state?! Jews are enjoined by their religious laws to be loyal to the country of which they are citizens. Ever since the destruction of the holy Temple in Jerusalem and the exile of the Jewish People some two thousand years ago, we have been enjoined to be scrupulously loyal to the countries we reside in. One of the great biblical prophets, Jeremiah, in chapter 29 of his book, proclaimed God's message to all the exiled; verse seven reads, "Seek out the welfare of the city to which I have exiled you and pray for it to the Almighty, for through its welfare will you have welfare." This has been a cornerstone of Jewish morality throughout our history to this very day.

Torah-true Jews wish to live in peace and harmony with their neighbors in every country among the community of nations, including in historic Palestine. They deplore acts and policies of violence carried out by those who, "misusing the name of Israel our forefather, have substituted the ideal of chauvinist nationalism for the eternal values of the Torah, the eternal divinely bestowed inheritance of the Jewish people." This appeal by true Jews goes largely unheard. The so-called "Jewish-controlled" liberal media just doesn't exist. But a Zionist-controlled corporate media does. And a Zionist-led international banking cartel of 13 zillionaire banking families exists as well, and has been led by the Rothschild international banking dynasty for centuries. And if anyone wishes to address this infinitesimally small collection of scheming criminals, then you have Rush Limbaugh proclaiming that he doesn't believe in conspiracy theories while the Zionists chime in shouting "anti-Semitism!"

Jews Against Zionism offer the Zionist modus operandi: It has been the age-old intention of Zionism to intentionally stir up anti-Semitism anywhere possible, and even more commonly, to take advantage of any Jewish suffering anywhere in order to enhance its cause. Indeed, hatred of Jews and Jewish suffering is the oxygen of the Zionist movement, and from the very beginning has been to deliberately incite hatred of the Jew and then, in feigned horror, use it to justify the existence of the Zionist state - this is, of course, Machiavellianism raised to the highest degree. Thus, the Zionists thrive on hatred and suffering of Jews, and seek to benefit thereby through keeping Jews in perpetual fear, causing them to ignore the true nature of Zionism, and instead to consider the Zionist state as their salvation.

Most Americans are unaware of the stark differences between Judaism and Zionism; to most, they are one and the same thing. Imagine their confusion and amazement should they ever be apprised of this glaring difference! But who will tell them, our Zionist-controlled corporate mainstream media? Will it be the Zionists who control publishing, Hollywood entertainment, newspapers, magazines, radio and network television, as well as the related news venues? Their powerful control over US is just as effective as AIPAC's control over our Congress. Zionists represent neither Jews nor Americans, yet they control American government as well as American public opinion. And they do this at the expense of all Jews!

The recent flap instigated by Abraham Foxman and his Zionist "Anti-Defamation League" against Mel Gibson's film, The Passion of Christ, is a perfect example of how the powerful word-weapon of "anti-Semitism" is utilized to poison public opinion. It also demonstrates Zionism's power. Anyone familiar with Mel Gibson's life and background knows that he's a devout Catholic, and very religious. His films also demonstrate a love for freedom and a great love for this nation and its heritage. No one but a malicious individual would feign ignorance of these facts, and it is only pure hatred and contempt for not only Gibson as a person as exhibited by Foxman and his Zionists, but everything Gibson stands for as offered through his art. Zionists blocked distribution funding for Gibson's Christ, but he persevered and went around them. His smashing success confirms his faith in freedom and the American way, the concept of which is totally lost on the likes of hateful Zionists like Foxman.

Jews are beginning to organize against Foxman and his Zionist ilk. Organizations such as Jews for Morality and the Family Defense Council support the activism of the previously cited efforts of the Jews Against Zionism. In a letter to Abraham Foxman, Howard L. Hurwitz, Chairman of the Family Defense Council, wrote on January 15, 1998, in an "Open Letter to Abraham Foxman," that there is an old Yiddish axiom: "Our own Jews will destroy us." Hurwitz goes on: "You, Abraham Foxman, are that Jew. In the decade that you have directed a once prestigious and respected organization, you have defiled it." Jews for Morality offers on their website, "Most people have the mistaken notion that the ADL (Anti-Defamation League of Bnai Brith) is simply a Jewish defense organization whose purpose is to protect Jews in the United States from discrimination and physical harm. Nothing could be further from the truth. In recent years, the ADL, under the leadership of Abraham Foxman, has metamorphosed into a left-wing organization that closely coordinates its activities with some of the most radical groups in America." Now consider the power of the Zionist lobby as compared with the efficacy of the disenfranchised American people. Consider the power of the Zionist lobby and the neoconservative Zionist secret cabal in control of the simple intellect of George W. Bush. And consider the power and might of the American military and the desires of world domination by the Israeli Zionist Likud Party in Israel. Question: Do you feel lucky? -###-

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Post#7 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:06 pm

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This is part of their demonic plans for the rest of us

Post#8 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:07 pm

Listen and learn from one of the best
Lindsay Williams telling the truth
http://gcnlive.com/Archives2010/jan10/C ... 012710.mp3

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Badnews 9/11 orthodoxy, ArmyWarCollege & Marines MOSSADG

Post#9 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:11 pm

Bad news for 9/11 orthodoxy, Army War College and Marines are getting onboard with the Truthers....ha ha ha ha



Okay those of you who can't figure out that buildings don't just disintegrate and turn to
dust from gravity, or that radar supposedly ceases to work when Arabs hijack planes, read
'em and weep. For all your protestations that I'm a bozo or that I'm an anti-Semite, or
this, that and the other thing, here is a fellow whose connections and background you may
find more persuasive. If you still can't "get it" you probably should be taking special
ed classes or be bagging at the local supermarket.

Dr. Sabrosky is NOT ONLY part Jewish but is on record as declaring that 9/11 was a Mossad
job, and is in contact with the US Army War College and Marine Corps in regards to this
issue. His interview on the ugly truth podcast, alternate on my server here- Editor

The dark face of Jewish nationalism
By Dr Alan Sabrosky
12 March 2010

Alan Sabrosky considers the characteristics that differentiate Jewish nationalism from
other nationalisms, highlighting in particular its intrinsic extremism, its xenophobia,
racism and militarism, its undermining of civic loyalty among its adherents in other
countries and its propensity to hatred and racial exclusivity.

Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu once remarked to a Likud gathering that "Israel
is not like other countries". Oddly enough for him, that time he was telling the truth,
and nowhere is that more evident than with Jewish nationalism, whether or not one pins
the "Zionist" label on it.

"...whereas extremism in other nationalist movements is an aberration, extremism in
Jewish nationalism is the norm, pitting Zionist Jews (secular or observant) against the
goyim (everyone else)..."

Nationalism in most countries and cultures can have both positive and negative aspects,
unifying a people and sometimes leading them against their neighbours. Extremism can
emerge, and often has, at least in part in almost every nationalist/independence movement
I can recall (e.g. the French nationalist movement had The Terror, Kenya's had the Mau
Mau, etc.).

But whereas extremism in other nationalist movements is an aberration, extremism in
Jewish nationalism is the norm, pitting Zionist Jews (secular or observant) against the
goyim (everyone else), who are either possible predator or certain prey, if not both
sequentially. This does not mean that all Jews or all Israelis feel and act this way, by
any means. But it does mean that Israel today is what it cannot avoid being, and what it
would be under any electable government (a point I'll develop in another article).

The differences between Jewish nationalism (Zionism) and that of other countries and
cultures here I think are fourfold:

1. Zionism is a real witches' brew of xenophobia, racism, ultra-nationalism and
militarism that places it way outside of a "mere" nationalist context — for example, when
I was in Ireland (both parts) I saw no indication whatsoever that the Provisional Irish
Republican Army or anyone else pressing for a united Ireland had a shred of design on
shoving Protestants into camps or out of the country, although there may well have been a
handful who thought that way — and goes far beyond the misery for others professed by the
Nazis;

2. Zionism undermines civic loyalty among its adherents in other countries in a way that
other nationalist movements (and even ultra-nationalist movements like Nazism) did not —
e.g. a large majority of American Jews, including those who are not openly dual citizens,
espouse a form of political bigamy called "dual loyalty" (to Israel and the US) that is
every bit as dishonest as marital bigamy, attempts to finesse the precedence they give to
Israel over the US (lots of Rahm Emanuels out there who served in the Israeli army but
NOT in the US armed forces), and has absolutely no parallel in the sense of national or
cultural identity espoused by any other definable ethnic or racial group in America —
even the Nazi Bund in the US disappeared once Germany and the US went to war, with almost
all of its members volunteering for the US armed forces;

3. The "enemy" of normal nationalist movements is the occupying power and perhaps its
allies, and once independence is achieved, normal relations with the occupying power are
truly the norm, but for Zionism almost everyone out there is an actual or potential
enemy, differing only in proximity and placement on its very long list of enemies (which
is now America's target list); and

4. Almost all nationalist movements (including the irredentist and secessionist variants)
intend to create an independent state from a population in place or to reunite a
separated people (like the Sudeten Germans in the 1930s) — it is very rare for it to
include the wholesale displacement of another indigenous population, which is far more
common of successful colonialist movements as in the US — and perhaps a reason why most
Americans wouldn't care too much about what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians
even if they DID know about it, is because that is no different than what Europeans in
North America did to the Indians/Native Americans here in a longer and more low-tech
fashion.

The implications of this for Middle East peace prospects, and for other countries in
thrall to their domestic Jewish lobbies or not, are chilling. The Book of Deuteronomy
come to life in a state with a nuclear arsenal would be enough to give pause to anyone
not bought or bribed into submission — which these days encompasses the US government,
given Israel's affinity for throwing crap into the face of the Obama administration and
Obama's visible affinity for accepting it with a smile, Bibi Netanyahu's own "Uncle Tom"
come to Washington.

The late General Moshe Dayan, who — Zionist or not — remains an honoured part of my own
Pantheon of military heroes, allegedly observed that Israel's security depended on its
being viewed by others as a mad dog. He may have been correct. But he neglected to note
that the preferred response of everyone else is to kill that mad dog before it can decide
to go berserk and bite. It is an option worth considering.

Alan Sabrosky (PhD, University of Michigan) is a 10-year US Marine Corps veteran and a
graduate of the US Army War College. He can be contacted at docbrosk@comcast.net.

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“The Reason For This Cover-Up Goes Right To The White House”

Post#10 » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:18 pm

One should remember that the Holohoax is also based on the "confession" of the Commandant
of Auschwitz who was savagely beaten for three days, including having his testicles
crushed and told that his family would be murdered if he did not cooperate. He was later
hung for his "crimes against humanity". This was done by Brits, though I have never seen
mentioned if the torturers were of the Christian persuasion or otherwise. I have never
seen the names and profiles of the "al Qaeda" interrogators either. One might suspect
they were not Christians.
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“The Reason For This Cover-Up Goes Right To The White House”

George Washington Blog
Thursday, March 18, 2010
As I pointed out in 2007:
The 9/11 Commission Report was largely based on a third-hand account of what tortured
detainees said, with two of the three parties in the communication being government
employees.
The official 9/11 Commission Report states:
Chapters 5 and 7 rely heavily on information obtained from captured al Qaeda members. A
number of these “detainees” have firsthand knowledge of the 9/11 plot. Assessing the
truth of statements by these witnesses-sworn enemies of the United States-is challenging.
Our access to them has been limited to the review of intelligence reports based on
communications received from the locations where the actual interrogations take place. We
submitted questions for use in the interrogations, but had no control over whether, when,
or how questions of particular interest would be asked. Nor were we allowed to talk to
the interrogators so that we could better judge the credibility of the detainees and
clarify ambiguities in the reporting.
In other words, the 9/11 Commissioners were not allowed to speak with the detainees, or
even their interrogators. Instead, they got their information third-hand.
The Commission didn’t really trust the interrogation testimony. For example, one of the
primary architects of the 9/11 Commission Report, Ernest May, said in May 2005:
We never had full confidence in the interrogation reports as historical sources.
As I noted last May:
Newsweek is running an essay by [New York Times investigative reporter] Philip Shenon
saying [that the 9/11 Commission Report was unreliable because most of the information
was based on the statements of tortured detainees]:
The commission appears to have ignored obvious clues throughout 2003 and 2004 that its
account of the 9/11 plot and Al Qaeda’s history relied heavily on information obtained
from detainees who had been subjected to torture, or something not far from it.
The panel raised no public protest over the CIA’s interrogation methods, even though news
reports at the time suggested how brutal those methods were. In fact, the commission
demanded that the CIA carry out new rounds of interrogations in 2004 to get answers to
its questions.
That has troubling implications for the credibility of the commission’s final report. In
intelligence circles, testimony obtained through torture is typically discredited;
research shows that people will say anything under threat of intense physical pain.
And yet it is a distinct possibility that Al Qaeda suspects who were the exclusive source
of information for long passages of the commission’s report may have been subjected to
“enhanced” interrogation techniques, or at least threatened with them, becauseof the 9/11
Commission….
Information from CIA interrogations of two of the three—KSM and Abu Zubaydah—is cited
throughout two key chapters of the panel’s report focusing on the planning and execution
of the attacks and on the history of Al Qaeda.
Footnotes in the panel’s report indicate when information was obtained from detainees
interrogated by the CIA. An analysis by NBC News found that more than a quarter of the
report’s footnotes—441 of some 1,700—referred to detainees who were subjected to the
CIA’s “enhanced” interrogation program, including the trio who were waterboarded.
Commission members note that they repeatedly pressed the Bush White House and CIA for
direct access to the detainees, but the administration refused. So the commission
forwarded questions to the CIA, whose interrogators posed them on the panel’s behalf.
The commission’s report gave no hint that harsh interrogation methods were used in
gathering information, stating that the panel had “no control” over how the CIA did its
job; the authors also said they had attempted to corroborate the information “with
documents and statements of others.”
But how could the commission corroborate information known only to a handful of people in
a shadowy terrorist network, most of whom were either dead or still at large?
Former senator Bob Kerrey of Nebraska, a Democrat on the commission, told me last year he
had long feared that the investigation depended too heavily on the accounts of Al Qaeda
detainees who were physically coerced into talking. …
Kerrey said it might take “a permanent 9/11 commission” to end the remaining mysteries of
September 11.
Abu Zubaida was well-known to the FBI as being literally crazy. The Washington Post
quotes “FBI officials, including agents who questioned [alleged Al-Qaeda member Abu
Zubaida] after his capture or reviewed documents seized from his home” as concluding that
he was:
[L]argely a loudmouthed and mentally troubled hotelier whose credibility dropped as the
CIA subjected him to a simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding and to other
“enhanced interrogation” measures.
(ARTICLE CONTINUES BELOW)

For example:
Retired FBI agent Daniel Coleman, who led an examination of documents after Abu Zubaida’s
capture in early 2002 and worked on the case, said the CIA’s harsh tactics cast doubt on
the credibility of Abu Zubaida’s information.
“I don’t have confidence in anything he says, because once you go down that road,
everything you say is tainted,” Coleman said, referring to the harsh measures. “He was
talking before they did that to him, but they didn’t believe him. The problem is they
didn’t realize he didn’t know all that much.”
***
“They said, ‘You’ve got to be kidding me,’ ” said Coleman, recalling accounts from FBI
employees who were there. ” ‘This guy’s a Muslim. That’s not going to win his confidence.
Are you trying to get information out of him or just belittle him?‘” Coleman helped lead
the bureau’s efforts against Osama bin Laden for a decade, ending in 2004.
Coleman goes on to say:
Abu Zubaida … was a “safehouse keeper” with mental problems who claimed to know more
about al-Qaeda and its inner workings than he really did.
***
Looking at other evidence, including a serious head injury that Abu Zubaida had suffered
years earlier, Coleman and others at the FBI believed that he had severe mental problems
that called his credibility into question. “They all knew he was crazy, and they knew he
was always on the damn phone,” Coleman said, referring to al-Qaeda operatives. “You think
they’re going to tell him anything?”
ACLU, FireDogLake’s Marcy Wheeler and RawStory broke the story yesterday that (quoting
RawStory):
Senior Bush administration officials sternly cautioned the 9/11 Commission against
probing too deeply into the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, according to a
document recently obtained by the ACLU.
The notification came in a letter dated January 6, 2004, addressed by Attorney General
John Ashcroft, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and CIA Director George J. Tenet. The
ACLU described it as a fax sent by David Addington, then-counsel to former vice president
Dick Cheney.
In the message, the officials denied the bipartisan commission’s request to question
terrorist detainees, informing its two senior-most members that doing so would “cross” a
“line” and obstruct the administration’s ability to protect the nation.
“In response to the Commission’s expansive requests for access to secrets, the executive
branch has provided such access in full cooperation,” the letter read. “There is,
however, a line that the Commission should not cross — the line separating the
Commission’s proper inquiry into the September 11, 2001 attacks from interference with
the Government’s ability to safeguard the national security, including protection of
Americans from future terrorist attacks.”
***
“The Commission staff’s proposed participation in questioning of detainees would cross
that line,” the letter continued. “As the officers of the United States responsible for
the law enforcement, defense and intelligence functions of the Government, we urge your
Commission not to further pursue the proposed request to participate in the questioning
of detainees.”
Destruction of Evidence
The interrogators made videotapes of the interrogations. The 9/11 Commission asked for
all tapes, but the CIA lied and said there weren’t any.
The CIA then destroyed the tapes.
Specifically, the New York Times confirms that the government swore that it had turned
over allof the relevant material regarding the statements of the people being
interrogated:
“The commission did formally request material of this kind from all relevant agencies,
and the commission was assured that we had received all the material responsive to our
request,” said Philip D. Zelikow, who served as executive director of the Sept. 11
commission ….
“No tapes were acknowledged or turned over, nor was the commission provided with any
transcript prepared from recordings,” he said.
But is the destruction of the tapes — and hiding from the 9/11 Commission the fact that
the tapes existed — a big deal? Yes, actually. As the Times goes on to state:
Daniel Marcus, a law professor at American University who served as general counsel for
the Sept. 11 commission and was involved in the discussions about interviews with Al
Qaeda leaders, said he had heard nothing about any tapes being destroyed.If tapes were
destroyed, he said, “it’s a big deal, it’s a very big deal,” because it could amount to
obstruction of justice to withhold evidence being sought in criminal or fact-finding
investigations.
Indeed, 9/11 Commission co-chairs Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton wrote:
Those who knew about those videotapes — and did not tell us about them — obstructed our
investigation.
The CIA also is refusing to release any transcripts from the interrogation sessions. As I
wrote a year ago:
What does the fact that the CIA destroyed numerous videotapes of Guantanamo
interrogations, but has 3,000 pages of transcripts from those tapes really mean?
Initially, it means that CIA’s claim that it destroyed the video tapes to protect the
interrogators’ identity is false. Why? Well, the transcripts contain the identity of the
interrogator. And the CIA is refusing to produce the transcripts.
Obviously, the CIA could have “blurred” the face of the interrogator and shifted his
voice (like you’ve seen on investigative tv shows like 60 Minutes) to protect the
interrogator’s identity. And since the CIA is not releasing the transcripts, it similarly
could have refused to release the videos.
The fact that the CIA instead destroyed the videos shows that it has something to hide.
Trying to Create a False Linkage?
I have repeatedly pointed out that the top interrogation experts say that torture doesn’t
work.
As I wrote last May:
The fact that people were tortured in order to justify the Iraq war by making a false
linkage between Iraq and 9/11 is gaining attention.
Many people are starting to understand that top Bush administration officials not only
knowingly lied about a non-existent connection between Al Qaida and Iraq, but they pushed
and insisted that interrogators use special torture methods aimed at extracting false
confessions to attempt to create such a false linkage.
Indeed, the Senate Armed Services Committee found that the U.S. used torture techniques
specifically aimed at extracting false confessions (and see this).
And as Paul Krugman wrote in the New York Times:
Let’s say this slowly: the Bush administration wanted to use 9/11 as a pretext to invade
Iraq, even though Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. So it tortured people to make them
confess to the nonexistent link.
[A]ccording to NBC news:
Much of the 9/11 Commission Report was based upon the testimony of people who were
tortured
At least four of the people whose interrogation figured in the 9/11 Commission Report
have claimed that they told interrogators information as a way to stop being “tortured.”
One of the Commission’s main sources of information was tortured until he agreed to sign
a confession that he was NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO READ
The 9/11 Commission itself doubted the accuracy of the torture confessions, and yet kept
their doubts to themselves
In fact, the self-confessed “mastermind” of 9/11 also confessed to crimes whichhe could
not have committed. He later said that he gave the interrogators a lot offalse
information – telling them what he thought they wanted to hear – in an attempt to stop
the torture. We also know that he was heavily torturedspecifically for the purpose of
trying to obtain false information about 9/11 - specifically, that Iraq had something to
do with it.
***
Remember, as discussed above, the torture techniques used by the Bush administration to
try to link Iraq and 9/11 were specifically geared towards creatingfalse confessions
(they were techniques created by the communists to be used in show trials).
***
The above-linked NBC news report quotes a couple of legal experts to this effect:
Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, says he is “shocked”
that the Commission never asked about extreme interrogation measures.
“If you’re sitting at the 9/11 Commission, with all the high-powered lawyers on the
Commission and on the staff, first you ask what happened rather than guess,” said Ratner,
whose center represents detainees at Guantanamo. “Most people look at the 9/11 Commission
Report as a trusted historical document. If their conclusions were supported by
information gained from torture, therefore their conclusions are suspect.“…
Karen Greenberg, director of the Center for Law and Security at New York University’s
School of Law, put it this way: “[I]t should have relied on sources not tainted. It calls
into question how we were willing to use these interrogations to construct the narrative.”
The interrogations were “used” to “construct the narrative” which the 9/11 Commission
decided to use.
Remember (as explored in the book The Commission by respected journalist Philip Shenon),
that the Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission was an administration insider whose
area of expertise is the creation and maintenance of “public myths” thought to be true,
even if not actually true. He wrote an outline of what he wanted the report to say very
early in the process, controlled what the Commission did and did not analyze, then
limited the scope of the Commission’s inquiry so that the overwhelming majority of
questions about 9/11 remained unasked (see this article and this article).
***
As constitutional law expert Jonathan Turley stated:
[The 9/11 Commission] was a commission that was really made for Washington – a commission
composed of political appointees of both parties that ran interference for those parties
– a commission that insisted at the beginning it would not impose blame on individuals.

Other Obstructions of Justice
The failure of the government to allow the 9/11 Commission to speak with the detainees
directly and the CIA’s subsequent destruction of the interrogation videotapes isn’t the
first obstruction of justice by the government regarding the 9/11 investigations.
For example:
The 9/11 Commissioners concluded that officials from the Pentagon lied to the Commission,
and considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements
The tape of interviews of air traffic controllers on-duty on 9/11 was intentionally
destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting the tape into little pieces, and then
dropping the pieces in different trash cans around the building as shown by this NY Times
article (summary version is free; full version is pay-per-view) and by this article from
the Chicago Sun-Times
Investigators for the Congressional Joint Inquiry discovered that an FBI informant had
hosted and even rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought
to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown
location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were
undertaken under orders from the White House. As the New York Times notes:
Senator Bob Graham, the Florida Democrat who is a former chairman of the Senate
Intelligence Committee, accused the White House on Tuesday of covering up evidence . . .
* * *
The accusation stems from the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s refusal to allow
investigators for a Congressional inquiry and the independent Sept. 11 commission to
interview an informant, Abdussattar Shaikh, who had been the landlord in San Diego of two
Sept. 11 hijackers.
In his book “Intelligence Matters,” Mr. Graham, the co-chairman of the Congressional
inquiry with Representative Porter J. Goss, Republican of Florida, said an F.B.I.
official wrote them in November 2002 and said “the administration would not sanction a
staff interview with the source.” On Tuesday, Mr. Graham called the letter “a smoking
gun” and said, “The reason for this cover-up goes right to the White House.”

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Post#11 » Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:34 am

GORDON DUFF: SABROSKY INTERVIEW TIES ISRAEL TO 9/11
March 19, 2010 posted by Gordon Duff · 1
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/03/19/22329/

DR ALAN SABROSKY, FORMER DIRECTOR OF STUDIES AT THE US ARMY WAR COLLEGE
“ISRAEL DID IT”

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
Meet Dr. Alan Sabrosky, a brave man, a USMC Vietnam vet, an American of Jewish ancestry and someone devoted to the security of the United States at any cost. Ask any Jew what it takes to stand up against the most powerful and ruthless group in the world, the Israeli lobby inside the United States.
VIEW COMPLETE VIDEO INTERVIEW AT THE END OF THE ARTICLE

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Sabrosky has been calling for a new 9/11 investigation for some time. What makes him unique is that we have a Jew who can hardly be called “self-hating” or “anti-Semitic” or against Israel. He is consistent in everything he says. His point is that you are an American or you are an Israeli but you can’t be both, especially now with Zionism turning Israeli foreign policy into a “runaway train.” 9/11, as Sabrosky sees it was the watershed in a relationship between America and Israel that has gone from bad to unsurviveable, especially for America. He contents that AIPAC exercises near total control over the electoral process in America through the ability to outspend any other group and destroy anyone who stands against them.
The unwillingness of the US to stand with the international community on humanitarian and war crime issues where Israel is found in continual violation is, to Sabrosky, a critial issue. In discussion the US and her lack of support for the Goldstone Report, Sabrosky says:
US criticism of the HRC resolution should be disregarded, as Washington only parrots Israel’s wishes here…
… it might have been better to have included Goldstone’s condemnation of Hamas offenses as well, but it is legitimate as it stands for five reasons: (1) Israel committed the great majority of the violations; (2) Israel had an overwhelming preponderance of military power; (3) Palestinians suffered almost all of the death and destruction; (4) Israel has a long, sordid history of ignoring UN commissions and resolutions, and of attacking UN facilities and killing UN staff, as when the clearly marked UNRWA facility in Gaza was bombed; and (5) the HRC focus is properly on the actions of the oppressor (Israel) and not on those of the oppressed (the Palestinians).
Another is that it did not accord Israel the right of self-defense. But Israel’s claim to self-defense in its savaging of Gaza is specious, because Israel — like all occupiers and oppressors — has no inherent right of self-defense against its victims. Who, for instance, would have accepted Nazi Germany’s assertion that its brutal reprisals against the Czechs for their assassination of a Nazi commander named Reinhard Heydrich was an exercise in self-defense? No one, and no one should accept Israel’s claim, either.
A third is that holding Israel accountable for its actions will somehow endanger the Middle East peace process. But there is no peace process, simply meaningless discussions to the dead end (for Palestinians and the rest of the region) of Israeli hegemony, and under Netanyahu or any electable government in Israel, there is not and cannot be one. There will be an enforced peace imposed from outside of the Middle East, over the objections and obstruction of Israel, or there will be none at all.
ZIONISM AND ISRAELI NATIONALISM
This is how Sabrosky describes the nature of Jewish nationalism as described within the term we call “Zionism”:
The differences between Jewish nationalism (Zionism) and that of other countries and cultures here I think are fourfold:
1. Zionism is a real witches’ brew of xenophobia, racism, ultra-nationalism and militarism that places it way outside of a “mere” nationalist context — for example, when I was in Ireland (both parts) I saw no indication whatsoever that the Provisional Irish Republican Army or anyone else pressing for a united Ireland had a shred of design on shoving Protestants into camps or out of the country, although there may well have been a handful who thought that way — and goes far beyond the misery for others professed by the Nazis;
2. Zionism undermines civic loyalty among its adherents in other countries in a way that other nationalist movements (and even ultra-nationalist movements like Nazism) did not — e.g. a large majority of American Jews, including those who are not openly dual citizens, espouse a form of political bigamy called “dual loyalty” (to Israel and the US) that is every bit as dishonest as marital bigamy, attempts to finesse the precedence they give to Israel over the US (lots of Rahm Emanuels out there who served in the Israeli army but NOT in the US armed forces), and has absolutely no parallel in the sense of national or cultural identity espoused by any other definable ethnic or racial group in America — even the Nazi Bund in the US disappeared once Germany and the US went to war, with almost all of its members volunteering for the US armed forces;
3. The “enemy” of normal nationalist movements is the occupying power and perhaps its allies, and once independence is achieved, normal relations with the occupying power are truly the norm, but for Zionism almost everyone out there is an actual or potential enemy, differing only in proximity and placement on its very long list of enemies (which is now America’s target list); and
4. Almost all nationalist movements (including the irredentist and secessionist variants) intend to create an independent state from a population in place or to reunite a separated people (like the Sudeten Germans in the 1930s) — it is very rare for it to include the wholesale displacement of another indigenous population, which is far more common of successful colonialist movements as in the US — and perhaps a reason why most Americans wouldn’t care too much about what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians even if they DID know about it, is because that is no different than what Europeans in North America did to the Indians/Native Americans here in a longer and more low-tech fashion.
Sabrosky is one of the few Americans who sees the nuclear threat of Israel as it is, blackmailing the United States, not only in how it could be used to draw America into an unwanted war, but how it could actually be used at some point to attack the United States itself. Only recently, Israel put Western Europe on notice that it would be attacked if its actions threatened Israel, attacked by nuclear weaons from Israel without warning. Martin van Creveld’s threat combined with Sabrosky’s analysis of Israeli intentions and culpability for 9/11 brings to mind something Sabrosky had once written.
He has always seen Moshe Dyan as a hero. Dyan saw Israel’s military role as that of a “junk yard dog,” ready to bite without warning, attack anything and anyone. Sabrosky notes that, eventually such an animal is always put down or as he puts it, ”the preferred response of everyone else is to kill that mad dog before it can decide to go berserk and bite.”
9/11
Sabrosky makes a case, not just for a coverup of 9/11 but goes much further. He points out as do so many that the physics of the attack are unworkable. He, however, is one of the few to point to a conclusion many find obvious but few have the nerve to admit, that it would have been impossible to stage 9/11 without the full resources of both the CIA and Mossad and that 9/11 served the interests of both agencies quite well.
There was nothing they could have wished for more.
Sabrosky also makes a point involving media coverage of 9/11:
Finally, we need to take a hard look at why the mainstream media (MSM) have paid more attention to Sarah Palin’s wardrobe than they have to dissecting blatant falsehoods, discrepancies and inconsistencies in the US Government’s treatment of 9/11 and its aftermath.
ZIONISM AND TREASON
The inescapable point isnt the 60,000 Americans killed or wounded in a war started out of treason or the world it threatens to destroy. Americans have been looking away from these glaring realities the way they looked away from Vietnam. Sabrosky leaves Israel and her American Jewish supporters who he sees as traitors with a warning:
If these Americans and those like them ever fully understand just how much of their suffering — and the suffering we have inflicted on others — is properly laid on the doorsteps of Israel and its advocates in America, they will sweep aside those in politics, the press and the pulpits alike whose lies and disloyalty brought this about and concealed it from them. They may well leave Israel looking like Carthage after the Romans finished with it. It will be Israel’s own great fault.
Do we take Sabrosky seriously because he is a Marine or a Jew? Do we wonder why the things he says reach so few? Is American in a shooting war where our biggest enemy sits behind us, killing us off, robbing us blind and whispering gently in our ears how much they love us?
It would seem so.

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155 Responses to “GORDON DUFF: SABROSKY INTERVIEW TIES ISRAEL TO 9/11”
Ross says:
April 4, 2010 at 3:29 am
What I’d like to know Gordon,is how extensive is this awareness & support from the military is on subjects like 911? While Sabrovsky implies that is extensive,we do not know where the key players stand,since many have been appointed by the likes of Rahm Emanuel.

Sabrovsky could be overplaying his hand and putting the truth movement in peril.

In reality none of this was really well thought out.US manufacturing has been sent to China,hence we have loss of jobs and huge debt by most Western economies.This coupled with WFC is destroying our economies.China gets 12% of it’s oil from Iran and another 30% from the rest of the Middle East + a bit from Africa.

The USA is surrounding China/Russia Militarily and forcing an alliance that works against our security interests.

Russia has warned USA not to invade Iran.China also would not be happy since their energy security would be threatened.We cannot afford a war with China since they make most our consumables.A war in the Middle East will see fuel prices skyrocket and hardship on a massive scale.

We have all these greedy interest groups like arms manufacturers, oil producers,and Banks loan money to Govts for weapons, unable to see the larger picture.Israel is painting itself into a corner and may just lose any sense of judgement.

It is really a scenario for chaos and destruction.This is why we need people of good judgement and integrity.I cannot see either of the leaders of the Democrats or Republicans having any such qualities since they are corrupted by the system. They see their self interest as being paramount.

When the proverbial hits the fan,we need a group who can take control and restore order.Someone has to sit these fools down and spell out the reality.Sharing a nuke shelter with cockroaches is cold comfort for any survivor.

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scapegoat says:
April 4, 2010 at 9:10 am
“In reality none of this was really well thought out.US manufacturing has been sent to China,hence we have loss of jobs and huge debt by most Western economies.This coupled with WFC is destroying our economies.China gets 12% of it’s oil from Iran and another 30% from the rest of the Middle East + a bit from Africa.”

It just depends on that one little word ‘we’. The debt is on white countries thus ruining them (plus the projected 2 trillion euros of wealth transfer to for example China in the form of CO2-taxes). ‘We’ should always be biological. The change from flesh and blood nationality to judicial paper nationality has gotten us to this point.

Research the opening of China trade. I assume you all have already researched who created the financial instruments which are reason for the current collapse? Primary reason is of course the entire system of FED. One notable is Jewish Maurice Greenberg of AIG, who was involved also in China-trade. After this meltdown AIG headed for chinese markets. Because of their work in transffering US industries to China AIG got special status from the chinese in one of the trade agreements. Check it out. You might also want to look into jewish spies and transfer of your military technology to China. List of jewish spies starting from the communist period are very easy to aquire. Use your internet.

I suggest you read them conspiratorial and anti-semitic books on US support to Mao and Soviet Union.

It’s stupid sports watching whites doing the fighting and dieing, while the big jews are already prepping their relocation to Asia and Australia.

“The USA is surrounding China/Russia Militarily and forcing an alliance that works against our security interests.”

Halfjewish Obama called jewish Zbiegniew Brzezinski his mentor. He has written couple of books. And while you are at it, look who funds all those color revolution; isn’t it jewish George Soros, the ambassador of democracy?

“We cannot afford a war with China since they make most our consumerables.A war in the Middle East will see fuel prices skyrocket and hardship on a massive scale.”

Stop consuming useless crap and stop living in virtualworlds created by media. That’s why you get deceived years in a row. Your economy is imploding, you are constantly engaged in useless wars and jews have put a negro as your presidents. Isn’t it about time for white americans to stop watching childish gaynegrosports and mindless tv-shows spewing racemixing-propaganda?

“Israel is painting itself into a corner and may just lose any sense of judgement.”

They never had any. Nucleardestruction of Israel and millions of jews dissappearing in burnt offering to feed the desertdemon they worship is the grand dream of the dear rabbis. That should arouse another round of sympathy for the jewish people.

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Gordon Duff says:
April 4, 2010 at 11:44 am
“Scapegoat”
Consider using a real identity. However, thank you for your substantive response which is wildly unsubstantiated and horribly racist but also honest and expressive of beliefs many jews hold. It is better to get all this out. Yes, Jews aren’t the only idiots. Your comment is very worthy of discussion and generally helpful. It is a great basis for debate.
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Sam Jackson says:
April 5, 2010 at 12:28 am
Gordon,

All societal entropy we see today is really a backdrop and a direct consequence of the loss of civilizational confidence and the looming passing away of European Man. Massive Jewish complicity in that, the result of ethnic aggression on their part to subvert to dominate host societies, is simply undeniable. I encourage you to peruse Kevin MacDonald’s trilogy on Judaism and the Jewish people, examined from the perspective of evolutionary psychology.

And no, it is not “racism” to love one’s own people, and to wish them to live and not die. In fact, it is the fulfillment of life’s highest interest – the continuation of our very being, our genetic continuity, through time.

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Gordon Duff says:
April 5, 2010 at 12:37 am
Sam
I do so love formal education.
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Gordon Duff says:
April 4, 2010 at 12:17 pm
To think we buy bullets at the same Gander Mountain.
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John E. Rankin says:
April 15, 2010 at 12:07 pm
How do you account for a 9/11 Commission report with hundreds of pages that evaluated over a million pages of documents? Why do you think you are right and they are wrong? Do you really believe that a cabal of Jews runs the US government to that degree?

A few paragraphs should suffice:

Our mandate was sweeping. The law directed us to investigate “facts and circumstances relating to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001,” including those relating to intelligence agencies, law enforcement agencies, diplomacy, immigration issues and border control, the flow of assets to terrorist organizations, commercial aviation, the role of congressional oversight and resource allocation, and other areas determined relevant by the Commission.

In pursuing our mandate, we have reviewed more than 2.5 million pages of documents and interviewed more than 1,200 individuals in ten countries. This included nearly every senior official from the current and previous administrations who had responsibility for topics covered in our mandate.

We have sought to be independent, impartial, thorough, and nonpartisan. From the outset, we have been committed to share as much of our investigation as we can with the American people. To that end, we held 19 days of hearings and took public testimony from 160 witnesses.

Our aim has not been to assign individual blame. Our aim has been to provide the fullest possible account of the events surrounding 9/11 and to identify lessons learned.

We learned about an enemy who is sophisticated, patient, disciplined, and lethal. The enemy rallies broad support in the Arab and Muslim world by demanding redress of political grievances, but its hostility toward us and our values is limitless. Its purpose is to rid the world of religious and political pluralism, the plebiscite, and equal rights for women. It makes no distinction between military and civilian targets. Collateral damage is not in its lexicon.

http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/repo ... t_Pref.htm

Do you really believe a conspiracy of the magnitude you posit is possible?

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Gordon Duff says:
April 15, 2010 at 12:57 pm
John,
You seem to be utterly oblivious to years of news.
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Jesse Canaan Greene says:
April 15, 2010 at 5:33 pm
John,

The MAJORITY of the people on the 9/11 commission have since come out saying that the U.S. Government INTENTIONALLY blocked a thorough and complete investigation. No differently than the Federally funded, Bush appointed N.I.S.T. these organizations make claims of exhaustive research to levels that you would never attempt to take on yourself.. JUST SO YOU DONT DO ANY RESEARCH OF YOUR OWN.. its not about quantity.. its about QUALITY of research. 10,000 pages of BS that never answers KEY & CRITICAL questions is NOT exhaustive research AT ALL.

“We learned about an enemy who is sophisticated, patient, disciplined, and lethal. The enemy rallies broad support in the Arab and Muslim world by demanding redress of political grievances, but its hostility toward us and our values is limitless. Its purpose is to rid the world of religious and political pluralism, the plebiscite, and equal rights for women. It makes no distinction between military and civilian targets. Collateral damage is not in its lexicon.”

This says nothing of who that enemy is.. as far as Im concerned its an exact description of the CIA, the Israeli army the Project for a New American Century and the NEW WORLD ORDER itself!

afs says:
April 17, 2010 at 6:34 pm
9/11 Commission Chairs and vice chair Kean and Hamilton said in their book Without President the 9/11 Commision was set up to fail.

The person most likely responsible for for setting up the 9/11 Commission to fail was Phillip Zelikow. The commission was set up like a corporation, and Zelikow actually did the day-to-day management. The Commission was equivalant of Zelicow’s Board of Directors. Zelikow set the daily agenda, not the commissioners.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?ti ... D._Zelikow

“Philip D. Zelikow is Executive Director of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, otherwise known as the 9-11 Commission.

* Member, Global Development Program Advisory Panel, Gates Foundation [1]
* Advisory Board, America Abroad Media

There’s a raft of evidence to suggest that Zelikow has personal, professional and political reasons not to see the commission hold Rice and other Bush officials accountable for pre-9/11 failings, and may be the de facto swing vote for Republicans on the panel.[1] Here are just a few of them:

* He and Rice worked closely together in the first Bush White House as aides to former National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft. Zelikow was director of European security affairs, and Rice was senior director of Soviet and East European affairs, as well as special assistant to the president. Rice reportedly hired Zelikow. Both started in 1989 and left in 1991.

* A few years after leaving the White House, Zelikow and Rice wrote a book together called, “Germany Unified and Europe Transformed: A Study in Statecraft.”

* The two associated again when Zelikow directed the Aspen Strategy Group [2], a foreign-policy strategy body co-chaired by Rice’s mentor Scowcroft. Rice, along with Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz, were members.

* Zelikow also directed the Markle Foundation’s Task Force on National Security in the Information Age [3]under co-chairman James Barksdale, a Bush adviser and major Bush-Cheney donor. A 9/11 commissioner, Republican Sen. Slade Gorton, also served with Zelikow on the task force. (Interestingly, the pair serves together on yet another panel – The National Commission on Federal Election Reform – with Gorton acting as vice-chairman and Zelikow as executive director.)

* After the 2000 election, Zelikow and Rice were reunited when George W. Bush named him to his transition team for the National Security Council. Rice reportedly asked Zelikow to help organize the NSC under the Scowcroft model, which was insular and steeped in Cold War worldview.

* Former White House terrorism czar Richard Clarke says he briefed not only Rice and Hadley, but also Zelikow about the growing al-Qaida threat during the transition period. Zelikow sat in on the briefings, he says.

* A month after the 9/11 al-Qaida attacks, President Bush appointed Zelikow to the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, which is chaired by Scowcroft.

* Zelikow’s regular job, the one he’ll return to after the commission releases it final report in late July, is director of the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia. The center is dedicated to the study of the presidency, and maintains contact with the Bush White House, which fought the creation of the commission.

Kristen Breitweiser, a 9/11 widow, insists Zelikow has a “clear conflict of interest.” And she suspects he is in touch with Bush’s political adviser, Rove, which she says would explain why the White House granted him, along with just one other commission official, the greatest access to the intelligence briefing Bush got a month before the 9/11 suicide hijackings.

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BBC reporter thinks Mossad did 9/11

Post#12 » Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:30 pm

Eventually EVERYONE WILL COME AROUND TO THE F-ING TRUTH, like we have. Those that blather their anti-blah blah at everyone who shines the spotlight on Israel and its psychopathic leaderships crimes, are finally losing what little is left of it. IT HAS NO MORE POWER, over those that speak and seek the truth.

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BBC reporter thinks Mossad did 9/11
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9dc_1274976693&c=1

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The FBI Allowed the 1993 WTC Bombing to Happen

Post#13 » Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:43 pm

The FBI Allowed the 1993 WTC Bombing to Happen
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/PO ... cbomb.html
THE NEW YORK TIMES

* * * * *

Thursday October 28, 1993 Page A1

"Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart
Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast"

By Ralph Blumenthal

Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast.

The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad Salem, should be used, the informer said.

The account, which is given in the transcript of hundreds of hours of tape recordings that Mr. Salem secretly made of his talks with law-enforcement agents, portrays the authorities as being in a far better position than previously known to foil the February 26th bombing of New York City's tallest towers.

The explosion left six people dead, more than a thousand people injured, and damages in excess of half-a-billion dollars. Four men are now on trial in Manhattan Federal Court [on charges of involvement] in that attack.

Mr. Salem, a 43-year-old former Egyptian Army officer, was used by the Government [of the United States] to penetrate a circle of Muslim extremists who are now charged in two bombing cases: the World Trade Center attack, and a foiled plot to destroy the United Nations, the Hudson River tunnels, and other New York City landmarks. He is the crucial witness in the second bombing case, but his work for the Government was erratic, and for months before the World Trade Center blast, he was feuding with the F.B.I.

Supervisor `Messed It Up'

After the bombing, he resumed his undercover work. In an undated transcript of a conversation from that period, Mr. Salem recounts a talk he had had earlier with an agent about an unnamed F.B.I. supervisor who, he said, "came and messed it up."

"He requested to meet me in the hotel," Mr. Salem says of the supervisor.

"He requested to make me to testify, and if he didn't push for that, we'll be going building the bomb with a phony powder, and grabbing the people who was involved in it. But since you, we didn't do that."

The transcript quotes Mr. Salem as saying that he wanted to complain to F.B.I. Headquarters in Washington about the Bureau's failure to stop the bombing, but was dissuaded by an agent identified as John Anticev.

Mr. Salem said Mr. Anticev had told him,

"He said, I don't think that the New York people would like the things out of the New York Office to go to Washington, D.C."

Another agent, identified as Nancy Floyd, does not dispute Mr. Salem's account, but rather, appears to agree with it, saying of the `New York people':

"Well, of course not, because they don't want to get their butts chewed."

CBS NEWS report about FBI foreknowledge of the World Trade Center bombing.

WMV video download (2.2MB)

See also:

Mossad Link to First WTC Bombing Raises Eyebrows
Damage Caused by the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing
The 9/11 WTC Collapses: An Audio-Video Analysis

What Really Happened

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CIA warns of violent American Jews

Post#14 » Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:44 pm

CIA warns of violent American Jews
By LAHAV HARKOV
08/26/2010 16:35

http://www.jpost.com/International/Arti ... ?id=186087

Wikileaked document calls the US an "exporter of terrorism."
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A CIA document released by Web site Wikileaks on Wednesay expresses concern that the US had become an "exporter of terrorism," specifically mentioning American Jews in Israel.

The classified report, titled "What if Foreigners See the United States as an Exporter of Terrorism?" was produced in February 2010 by the CIA's Red Cell, a think tank set up in the wake of the September 11 2001 attacks on New York's World Trade Center. It mentions incidents in which Americans joined terrorist groups such as the Taliban and the Irish Republican Army, and committed acts such as the 2008 Mumbai bombing.

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One of the four groups mentioned by the CIA is American Jews in Israel.

"Some American Jews have supported and even engaged in violent acts against perceived enemies of Israel," the leaked report reads. "In 1994, Baruch Goldstein, an American Jewish doctor from New York, emigrated to Israel, joined the extremist group Kach, and killed 29 Palestinians during their prayers in the mosque at the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron"

The CIA analysis explains that Goldstein's attack "helped to trigger a wave of bus bombings by HAMAS in early 1995."

The report considers international terrorist organizations targeting and recruiting Americans. It says:

"Less attention has been paid to homegrown terrorism, not exclusively Muslim terrorists, exported overseas to target non-US persons. This report examines the implications of what it would mean for the US to be seen increasingly as an incubator and 'exporter of terrorism.'"

The analysis posits that "American freedoms facilitate terrorist recruitment and operations," and that "popular websites such as Youtube, Facebook, Myspace, Twitter and various blogs enable radical clerics and terrorist recruiters to bypass America's physical borders and influence US citizens."

The CIA also expresses concern that if the rest of the world were to begin regarding the US as an "exporter of terrorism," diplomatic relations could be severely damaged and willingness to cooperate with US activities could be hindered.

According to The Washington Post, a CIA spokesperson played down the report, saying that it was compiled simply to provoke thought and present a range of views.

The online whistle-blower organization Wikileaks calls itself a "multi-jurisdictional public service designed to protect whistle-blowers, journalists and activists who have sensitive materials to communicate to the public."

Last month the group published 76,000 classified US military records and field reports on the war in Afghanistan.

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Mossad in America - Israeli intelligence steps up its activity in the U.S. — and gets away with it.
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by Philip Giraldi


Global Research, August 26, 2010
American Conservative

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Israeli government claims that it does not spy on the United States are intended for the media and popular consumption. The reality is that Israel’s intelligence agencies target the United States intensively, particularly in pursuit of military and dual-use civilian technology. Among nations considered to be friendly to Washington, Israel leads all others in its active espionage directed against American companies and the Defense Department. It also dominates two commercial sectors that enable it to extend its reach inside America’s domestic infrastructure: airline and telecommunications security. Israel is believed to have the ability to monitor nearly all phone records originating in the United States, while numerous Israeli air-travel security companies are known to act as the local Mossad stations.

As tensions with Iran increase, sources in the counterintelligence community report that Israeli agents have become more aggressive in targeting Muslims living in the United States as well as in operating against critics. There have been a number of cases reported to the FBI about Mossad officers who have approached leaders in Arab-American communities and have falsely represented themselves as “U.S. intelligence.” Because few Muslims would assist an Israeli, this is done to increase the likelihood that the target will cooperate. It’s referred to as a “false flag” operation.

Mossad officers sought to recruit Arab-Americans as sources willing to inform on their associates and neighbors. The approaches, which took place in New York and New Jersey, were reportedly handled clumsily, making the targets of the operation suspicious. These Arab-Americans turned down the requests for cooperation, and some of the contacts were eventually reported to the FBI, which has determined that at least two of the Mossad officers are, ironically, Israeli Arabs operating out of Israel’s mission to the United Nations in New York under cover as consular assistants.

In another bizarre case, U.S.S. Liberty survivor Phil Tourney was recently accosted in Southern California by a foreigner who eventually identified himself as an Israeli government representative. Tourney was taunted, and the Israeli threatened both him and journalist Mark Glenn, who has been reporting on the Liberty story. Tourney was approached in a hotel lounge, and it is not completely clear how the Israeli was able to identify him. But he knew exactly who Tourney was, as the official referred to the Liberty, saying that the people who had been killed on board had gotten what they deserved. There were a number of witnesses to the incident, including Tourney’s wife. The threat has been reported to the FBI, which is investigating, but Tourney and Glenn believe that the incident is not being taken seriously by the bureau.

FBI sources indicate that the increase in Mossad activity is a major problem, particularly when Israelis are posing as U.S. government officials, but they also note that there is little they can do to stop it as the Justice Department refuses to initiate any punitive action or prosecutions of the Mossad officers who have been identified as involved in the illegal activity.

In another ongoing Israeli spy case, Stewart Nozette appears to be headed towards eventual freedom as his case drags on through the District of Columbia courts. Nozette, an aerospace scientist with a top secret clearance and access to highly sensitive information, offered to sell classified material to a man he believed to be a Mossad officer, but who instead turned out to be with the FBI. Nozette has been in jail since October, but he has now been granted an additional 90-day delay so his lawyers can review the documents in the government’s case, many of which are classified. If Nozette demands that sensitive information be used in his defense, his case will likely follow the pattern set in the nine-times-postponed trial of AIPAC spies Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman, who were ultimately acquitted in April 2009 when prosecutors determined that they could not make their case without doing significant damage to national security. A month after Rosen and Weissman were freed, Ben-Ami Kadish, who admitted to providing defense secrets to Israel while working as an engineer at Picatinny Arsenal in New Jersey, walked out of a Manhattan court after paying a fine. He did no jail time and continues to receive his substantial Defense Department pension.

The mainstream media reported the Rosen and Weissman trial intermittently, but there was virtually no coverage of Ben-Ami Kadish, and there has been even less of Nozette. Compare that with the recent reporting on the Russian spies who, by all accounts, did almost nothing and never obtained any classified information. It is hard to avoid the conclusion that spying for Israel is consequence free.

Philip Giraldi, a former CIA Officer, is the Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest. His “Deep Background” column appears every month exclusively in The American Conservative.

Philip Giraldi is a frequent contributor to Global Research. Global Research Articles by Philip Giraldi

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